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An ugly pointless poll

Category: Pointless polls
Posted on: May 29, 2011 7:16 AM, by PZ Myers

It's become standard in the US for polling places (real polling places, not the online kind) to hand out little "I voted" stickers after you've made your contribution. This is a totally meaningless act; the stickers aren't used to actually track who has voted or not, they're just there to make you feel good and allow you to display to everyone you meet that you've done your civic duty.

Unfortunately, when the bureaucracy gets their hands on this trivial little detail, they can't leave it alone. It's got to be made more elaborate; it's got to become an ideological statement. So the state of Ohio is running an online poll to determine the design of these stupid little stickers. They have six designs to choose from, varying in quality from clunky to hideous, and two of them contain the bizarrely inappropriate message, "With god all things are possible".

So far, the leader is choice #3, with 38.8% of the vote, and fortunately it does not contain the religious message. Instead, it says "I <map of Ohio> VOTING", which doesn't even make sense, but it says something that it is probably the simplest and cleanest and most comprehensible of the non-godly stickers.

In order to vote, you have to give them an Ohio zip code to prove you're a resident, because there's no way a goddamn foreigner could possibly know an Ohio zip code. It just adds another layer of stupid to the whole enterprise.

Hey, Ohio: how about a sticker that just says "I voted"? Why turn it into a fashion statement, or worse, a testimony to ideological purity?

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#1

Posted by: Kurt1 Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 7:39 AM

I don´t even get, what cheesus and his pals have to do with democracy. I mean they could make a sticker "With science, you can show, that some things are impossible", but what would that have to do with voting?

#2

Posted by: Brother Ogvorbis, Apropos of Nada Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 7:44 AM

The stickers (and voting for the stickers) make the voters feel involved. This is Ohio, after all. It's not like any of the votes will actually count, the Secretary of State for Ohio has already determined the vote totals, he just has to plug them into the computer. The voters get a little sticker saying that they gave their opinion to the SecState's computer and hope that their vote matches the one the SecState already assigned to them.

And Happy Friday to all (even you calendarists)!

#3

Posted by: peaceman Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 7:54 AM

Hi I live in some bizarre place called Cream City and I'm a Buckeyed Voter (what?)

#4

Posted by: echidna Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 7:59 AM

"With god all things are possible"
is the Ohio state motto.

Which is bizarrely inappropriate, as it most explicitly endorses Christianity (as it derives from the NT).

#6

Posted by: Beriaal Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:01 AM

I find the "I 'Ohio heart' voting" not bad at all actually.

#7

Posted by: kaiserruhsam Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:04 AM

They should have an "I voted for the I voted sticker sticker" that you can print out. And a poll for that design, and a sticker for that poll. Ad Infinitum.

Since this is so pointless, lets talk about something hilarious. How about the first minute of RoboCop 2? And it won't even run down your battery!

#8

Posted by: Rich Stage Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:05 AM

Come on, now, Just because we have an offensive slogan and Freshwater, at least we're not Texas.

Proud Columbusite here.

#9

Posted by: Moggie Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:10 AM

If God approved of voting, he'd have mentioned it in the bible.

#10

Posted by: egoburnswell Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:14 AM

I used the Dublin postcode, because it's only half a lie! :)

#11

Posted by: opposablethumbstoo Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:15 AM

I come from New Paris. I wonder what it's like where I come from .....

#12

Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline. Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:19 AM

or worse, a testimony to ideological purity?
From what little I know of Ohio, I gather "the Beltway Media" (whatever that is) consider it verra verra important electionwise. So of course they need to remind everyone that they're only voting for show - in reality it's God picking the winners.
#13

Posted by: Bjarne Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:20 AM

In order to vote, you have to give them an Ohio zip code to prove you're a resident, because there's no way a goddamn foreigner could possibly know an Ohio zip code. It just adds another layer of stupid to the whole enterprise.
Well it even swallowed my German postal code without any problem :P
#14

Posted by: Silič O'Nopolitanopoulos, Färschdbischuf Beesknees aus Ulm und Klein Elguth, Elector Pharynguline. Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:22 AM

43350 Sparta
Muah-hah-hah-hah
#15

Posted by: Harmless Eccentric Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:22 AM

I actually am an Ohio voter, and I found myself unable to click on any of those awful designs. I wish there were an option for 'I guess I won't be wearing my sticker this year.'

#16

Posted by: Brother Ogvorbis, Apropos of Nada Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:35 AM

So of course they need to remind everyone that they're only voting for show - in reality it's God picking the winners.

So the GOP Secretary of State is god? Or Deibold is god?

Enjoy it, Ohioans -- this is the only vote that will actually be counted.

#17

Posted by: Janet Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:36 AM

With all the to-do about voting on a design AND coming up with several designs in the first place, it makes me wonder if some state department has budget money to use or lose.

#18

Posted by: RationalMind Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:41 AM

As an ignorant Brit I would have thought that the state moto broke the 1`st Amendment. Does it?

#19

Posted by: jenl1625 Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:41 AM

Urggh! With the state of Ohio's budget, does our SoS really have nothing better than this to do? And if it has to be done, for some strange reason, couldn't he do it better?

#20

Posted by: fowlbruce Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:42 AM

I cannot speak for the rest of the republic but here in Alabama the stickers have a function. They serve as a verification to employers, particularly NASA and the U. S. Army, that the individual did indeed execute his/her franchise and not just dawdle on the way to work.
One may argue that the stickers also serve a social function somewhat akin to wearing patriotic or service lapel pins. But I agree that design consideration beyond changing annually to avoid counterfeiting is inane.

#21

Posted by: Justicar Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:43 AM

Here's an interesting tidbit from the poll's website: "In this particular [online stick-it] election, you don't have to be 18 to participate and you can vote as often as you like!"

I am dismayed in that I'm not normally a single-issue voter, and none of these candidates was particularly responsive or enlightening in the debate. Really, I fear that any choice I make is blind; none of them have outright denied EVILution, but . . .

Option 4 just reads "IVT". In vitro something another, I'm sure.
Option 5 seems to the most enlightened of the group; it seems to advocate for the use of small, leafy type plants for unspecified purposes. I think that one has my vote.

C'mon, Pharyngulites, let's get the leafy one elected!

Oh, for personal reasons, I chose to use 43023 as the zipcode; it's Denison University's. =^_^=

#22

Posted by: hideki.adam Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:47 AM

If it shames more people into dragging their arse to the polling station I'm all for it.

I'm in the UK and turnout here is atrocious, I'd like to see a Null vote box added to the ballot and a legal requirement for everyone to vote with a guaranteed fine for those who can't be bothered, that right was not won easily and I don't like to see people wasting it.

#23

Posted by: MikeSpeaks Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:53 AM

If I'm remember correctly (unlikely), years ago Starbucks tried running a special where if on election day you came in wearing an "I Voted" sticker you'd get a free cup of joe. They had to call it off though since it was pointed out that they'd technically be in violation of the law that says you can't offer people compensation for voting.

#24

Posted by: Algernon, elle sans chapeau Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:58 AM

I actually like the heartland one.

#25

Posted by: blotzphoto Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:04 AM

"I VOTING", which doesn't even make sense,"

A. The map of Ohio somewhat resembles a valentine style heart.
B. One of our tourist mottos here is "Ohio, the Heart of It All." Based on the above resemblance.

It makes complete sense to us Ohioans. Unfortunately, "With God All Things Are Possible" has been our state motto since 1959, and yes, we've already sued them once over it.

#26

Posted by: jay.sweet Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:06 AM

This is a totally meaningless act; the stickers aren't used to actually track who has voted or not, they're just there to make you feel good and allow you to display to everyone you meet that you've done your civic duty.

I beg to differ! There is a bar around here where you can trade an "I Voted Today" sticker for a free beer. If that's not a meaningful cause, I don't know what is!!

#27

Posted by: Brother Ogvorbis, Apropos of Nada Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:08 AM

Re: "With god all things are possible"

Reminds me of a conversation I had with an elderly woman some years ago. She insisted that atheism is impossible as her god would never create a human without belief in god. She said we were all just angry with her imaginary deity and would come back to the fold when her god knew the time was right. So if all things are possible, and she insists that, with her god, atheism isn't possible, how does her head not explode with severe cognitive dissonance?

Crappy state motto, though. Blatant pandering to the anti-communist fear mongerers of the '50s.

#28

Posted by: ggwizz Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:10 AM

From Ohio's State Tourism Slogans

In 1984, the Ohio Division of Travel and Tourism created the slogan, "Ohio, The Heart of It All" to promote tourism. ... One reason why was because Ohio roughly resembles a heart in shape.

I don't [heart] voting because I'm forced to choose the lesser of evils, but I do it to reduce the chance of having the greater evils imposed upon me. So, a mis-shapened heart is an ideal icon.

@Rich Stage #8: I am from Columbus, too, the Heart of The Heart Of It All.

#29

Posted by: Dust.....spy Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:20 AM

In 2008 I found a good use for my sticker. I voted the first day of early voting and put the "I voted early" sticker on my front door.

This signaled to the many Obama campagian workers in my neighborhood to bypass my door. No more visits from them, and they wouldn't waste time at my door either.

Off to vote in the pointless poll now! :)

#30

Posted by: Banjobee Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:26 AM

I think those stickers are a great idea, and the more information on them the better. And that's because I have reached the age where I need all the help I can get to remind me where I have been and what I have been doing.

#31

Posted by: Andrew T Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:27 AM

the stickers aren't used to actually track who has voted or not, they're just there to make you feel good and allow you to display to everyone you meet that you've done your civic duty. Unfortunately, when the bureaucracy gets their hands on this trivial little detail, they can't leave it alone. It's got to be made more elaborate; it's got to become an ideological statement.

Why PZ, you're sounding like one of those filthy, anarchistic libertarian kooks! Just think of the half-dozen or so jobs that this redesign committee has created. Are you telling me that that isn't worth a little gov't bureaucratic meddling and meaningless spending?


#32

Posted by: VegeBrain Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:30 AM

When is someone going to make a sticker that has the same design as an "I Voted" sticker, but it says "I Farted" instead? I want to wear it during the next election and see if anyone notices.

#33

Posted by: Algernon, elle sans chapeau Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:36 AM

"I VOTING", which doesn't even make sense,"

I can haz voting!

I in ur boof, pickin ur congressional representative.

#34

Posted by: AKron Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:38 AM

Cute. The featued video after the stupid sticker poll video was RabidApe's video urging people to fight HR888 back in 2008. HR888 is to designate the first week in May as "Affirming the rich spiritual and religious history of our Nation's founding and subsequent history and expressing support for designation of the first week in May as "American Religious History Week" for the appreciation of and education on America's history of religious faith."
Here's the bill

#35

Posted by: Kevin Anthoney Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:47 AM

I'm in the UK and turnout here is atrocious, I'd like to see a Null vote box added to the ballot and a legal requirement for everyone to vote with a guaranteed fine for those who can't be bothered, that right was not won easily and I don't like to see people wasting it.

I disagree. If people can't be bothered voting that's entirely their problem. I'd rather have a low turnout of people who can be bothered than a high turnout of apathetic numpties.

#36

Posted by: rkitko Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:13 AM

I'm an Ohio voter. The pushy old ladies at my voting location, which thankfully isn't in a church, are really offended when I decline the sticker. I usually vote after work near closing time for the polls, so the sticker is pointless. Even then, I was only voter #126 in the most recent election, when our school levies when down in flames. As an out-of-stater, it still irks me that we get to vote on school levies. Where's my wastewater levy, dammit? I want to vote on the salary of the meter maid.

#37

Posted by: theophontes (θεός γαμώτο) Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:13 AM

By your command, my liege!

theophontes virtual location zip 43350 = SPARTA ! Real location = Zhangzhou, P.R.C. hehehe

#38

Posted by: AKron Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:17 AM

I gotta quit coming to Pharygula, and the Internet in general. I just end up getting pissed off:
"On 2001-MAR-16, the full 6th US Court of Appeals reversed the decision of its own three judge panel. In a 9 to 4 decision, they declared the Ohio motto "With God All Things Are Possible" to be not a religious slogan. Thus it does not violate the separation of church and state"
"We decided that the potential risk was not worth the gain," said Raymond Vasvari, a spokesman for the ACLU's Ohio branch, who explained that by appealing the decision the ACLU would be risking a national precedent-setting case. "It's no secret that there's a conservative block on the Supreme Court that takes a skeptical view of church and state separation."

#39

Posted by: Skånepharyngula Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:17 AM

I've been following pharyngula since around the time the blog was started (when it run on an Apple Lisa II or something), but this is my first comment.

Welcome!

Thanks.

Anyway, while this is a silly example, isn't being able to vote (even on something as silly and insignificant as this) *always* better than not being able to vote?

#40

Posted by: Blueaussi Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:18 AM

Like fowlbruce@20, some employers here in South Carolina require an "I voted" sticker if an employee wants to come in late or leave early to vote.

*I* want one so I can continue to harangue those of my acquaintance who don't vote. I'm pleased to say voter turnout at my polling station in 2008 and 2010 was so high, they ran out before I arrived.

#41

Posted by: sylva Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:22 AM

I liked the simplicity of the black and white I V T (I voted today) one.

#42

Posted by: tfkreference Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:30 AM

I wear my I Voted sticker in hope that the people who disagree with me will vote to cancel my vote, and then those who disagree with them will vote, and so on, thus increasing the turnout. (Or perhaps those who admire me will emulate me--but both of them already vote).

#43

Posted by: Brenden Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:31 AM

This is a totally meaningless act; the stickers aren't used to actually track who has voted or not, they're just there to make you feel good and allow you to display to everyone you meet that you've done your civic duty.

It's only meaningless if you think that their purpose is or should be to keep track of who has voted, which is not the case.

You're quite wrong about it being "totally meaningless"; an abundance of psychological and psycho-political research has shown that initiatives like this do increase voter turnout (see for example this study, coming out of Yale, which doesn't talk about the sticker tactic specifically, but is the first freely available PDF on the topic I found that doesn't require a database login).

That's not a totally meaningless venture, is it?

#44

Posted by: stan7000 Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:38 AM

Of course the design matters - people are more likely to do something if they know lots of others have done so. The exact design can influence how much of an effect this is. There is a science of persuasion (see here for a few tips for daily life) and I'd have thought PZ would have known this!

#45

Posted by: Abdul Alhazred Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:39 AM

I don't have a good design for an "I voted" badge, but here's a nice non-partisan bumper sticker:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2046/2312852857_5f71f25bbe.jpg

#46

Posted by: J Dubb Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:49 AM

Ohio resident here. Our previous SOS, Jennifer Brunner, is one to watch. She lost the in the primary race for Governor recently, and we ended up with a governor along the same lines as Wisconsin's union-busting governor. If Brunner had been the Dem candidate, she would have put up an actual fight.

I give Brunner credit for Obama getting a fair shot at winning the presidential election. She cleaned house here, and it wasn't easy. As for the SOS we have now, I have nothing nice to say about him.

#47

Posted by: inflection Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:51 AM

I like the little stickers. I did something and got a sticker for it! Come on, it's almost as good as a gold star!

Also, people going around wearing "I Voted" stickers make it more normal to vote, which is good advertising for participatory democracy.

#48

Posted by: Cosmic Snark Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:52 AM

I live in the gawdawful state of Ohio, so unfortunately I didn't have to 'cheat' with my zip code. Done.

#49

Posted by: Alan Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:53 AM

I like how the religious stickers don't have the web address of sos on them. Further, the 2 religious stickers are first in the list. Funny how that works.

#50

Posted by: howard.peirce Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:01 AM

For me, the main purpose of the Ohio "I Voted" sticker is to put in a prominent location in my cubicle at work where all my conservative, god-bothering coworkers can see it.

If they put God on my I Voted sticker, I won't be able to use it to tweak my colleagues. I suspect -- [shifty eyes] -- that may be the whole point.

#51

Posted by: Russells teapot Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:09 AM

I thought IVT was the campaign slogan for the Procrastination Party: I'll Vote Tomorrow

#52

Posted by: StevoR Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:11 AM

Meh, what difference does it make?

#53

Posted by: Paul Burnett Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:13 AM

PZ thoughtfully provided a list of Ohio ZIP codes and their associated place names. One of them was "Magnetic Springs" which sounded interesting - it's a town based on selling mineral water (but why "magnetic?")

The Magnetic Springs website contains such gems of biological wisdom as "Water Protects Your Tissues, Spinal Cord, and Joints" and "Water Helps Your Body Remove Waste" and "Water Aids in Digestion" and the hands-down winner: "Water Prevents You From Becoming Dehydrated".

#54

Posted by: StevoR Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:13 AM

'Cept for the Church /State separation thingy natch.

#55

Posted by: StevoR Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:16 AM

@53. Paul Burnett : Well technically those are all true statements .. of teh obvious maybe but true.

Which is one step ahead of most woo.

#56

Posted by: rkitko Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:17 AM

@J Dubb #46 - Jennifer Brunner lost the primary to that hack Lee Fisher in the open Senate seat. Fisher went on to lose against Republican Rob Portman. I hope Brunner runs for governor, but she hasn't yet.

#57

Posted by: Kobra Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:19 AM

Or how about we eschew the sticker pageantry ENTIRELY and quit trying to feel superior to our peers for opting in on being 0.000001% of a decision once every two to four years? That sounds gravy to me.

#58

Posted by: StevoR Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:23 AM

@9. Moggie | May 29, 2011 8:10 AM

If God approved of voting, he'd have mentioned it in the bible.

Jesus said render unto Caesar .. Therefore the divine choice of government system is that we should live under an Empire with a Caesar selected by Praetorian guard &/or Zeus Jupiter &/or Italian aristocracy in charge of everything.

Everything on the whole planet.

None of this democracy or voting crap by Jove!;-)


#59

Posted by: StevoR Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 11:34 AM

@rkitko | May 29, 2011 11:17 AM

Jennifer Brunner lost the primary to that hack Lee Fisher in the open Senate seat. Fisher went on to lose against Republican Rob Portman. I hope Brunner runs for governor, but she hasn't yet.

Is Jennifer Brunner any relation to the excellent British ASF author John Brunner :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brunner_(novelist)

by any chance? Anyone know and care to enlighten us please?

#60

Posted by: wisnij Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 12:03 PM

What #43 and #46 said. Having people wear the stickers increases social pressure to participate, which in the case of voting is a good thing.

#61

Posted by: 'Tis Himself, OM Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 12:27 PM

I thought IVT was the campaign slogan for the Procrastination Party: I'll Vote Tomorrow

That makes sense. I couldn't understand why an Ohio voter sticker was promoting the Intermediate Value Theorem.

#62

Posted by: Schenck Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 12:38 PM

Option 3 has 48% of the vote. Thats my report from Galena.

#63

Posted by: cag Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 1:05 PM

Does this mean that readers of Pharyngula get a button with "I am, therefore I think"?

#64

Posted by: Greg Laden Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 1:13 PM

What this country needs is a sticker that automatically dissolves the moment it hits laundry water.

#65

Posted by: ericthehalfabee Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 1:32 PM

What #42 and #47 and #60 said. Not pointless.

#66

Posted by: ericthehalfabee Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 1:38 PM

Damnit - I'm sure that 42 was a 43 when I wrote it!

#67

Posted by: levitooker Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 2:52 PM

I, for one, am not entirely sure that increasing the total number of people who vote is necessarily a good thing. People who are not well-informed about the candidates they are voting for should, in my opinion, not vote. I don't think anything should be done to stop people from voting, but if someone is already apathetic to voting, and they don't bother to understand the issues their vote is going to affect, they should not be encouraged to dilute the thought-out votes that actually reflect the political desires of the electorate. Voter turnout definitely should be encouraged, but it needs to be predicated on a certain level of understanding of the decisions being made, rather than just encouraging anyone and everyone to vote no matter what.

#68

Posted by: Shortsword Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 3:00 PM

PZ, It's worse than you think, "With God, all things are possible" is the state motto of Ohio. So, it is logical, that the sticker designers might put it on their stickers. Of course, that does not negate the fact that both the motto and the stickers are huge violations of the US Constitution!

#69

Posted by: crowepps Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 3:03 PM

Just went and checked on my purse to see what the sticker I got in the last election looks like --

Alaska flag blue background with Big Dipper and Polaris in yellow and also in yellow "I voted today". And these do mean you voted, they're handed out by the lady who watches you put your ballot in the counting machine. They used to just say "I voted. Did you?"

Most people wear them on their shirt the rest of the day and the idea is to jog other people's memory so they'll also go vote. I put mine on my purse as my proof that I can legitimately bitch about the stupidity of the people who were elected instead of my candidates.

#70

Posted by: Agi Hammerthief Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 3:14 PM

I've been to Cygnet Tasmania once...

what is a Buckeye? they deserve the uglyest sticker as a result, just so no-one wants to wear it

#72

Posted by: Dr. I. Needtob Athe Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 3:54 PM

Actually, I kind of agree that "with god all things are possible", but it would be better phrased "if God existed then all things would be possible", which constitutes scientific evidence of the non-existence of God.

#73

Posted by: whatifdotdotdot Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 3:59 PM

Today I am a three times Ohioan(sp?). In the space of a few minutes I arrived in Irwin, moved to Danville and then to Centreburg. Now I have to go take a break - I'm exhausted. Voting can really take it out of you.

#74

Posted by: Susan Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 4:04 PM

Apparently I'm from Victorias Secret, OH. (There's a Victorias Secret, OH?!)

My son loved voting for the first time a few weeks ago, and accepted an "I Voted" sticker and has kept it as a momento. It was a squeaky close election, too, so the "every vote counts" message sunk in.

#75

Posted by: Blueaussi Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 4:57 PM

Greg@ 64

They make a sticker that dissolves in water. We use them at work to label the date cleaned on large shelving units that must be run through the rack washer at least once a month. Folks kept forgetting to take the old ones off, and the washer pump would end up jammed with them.

#76

Posted by: 6-bleen-7 Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 5:40 PM

Fortunately, "I [Ohio] Voting" is the runaway favorite, with more than half the vote. (Or is this a result of Pharyngulization?)

#77

Posted by: David Marjanović Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 7:04 PM

They have six designs to choose from, varying in quality from clunky to hideous, and two of them contain the bizarrely inappropriate message, "With god all things are possible".
So the GOP Secretary of State is god?

With Kenneth "Katherine" Blackwell counting the votes, all results are possible.

Is Jennifer Brunner any relation to the excellent British ASF author John Brunner

Probably not; Brunner is a very common German surname.

#78

Posted by: andrsib Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 7:45 PM

two of them contain the bizarrely inappropriate message, "With god all things are possible".
Shouldn't it go like this:
There is no law for God! Where God stands — there is the place of God!
-- Dostoevsky
#79

Posted by: Spamamander, internet amphibian Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:29 PM

Wait... you can get BEER for voting? What the hell, Washington, we went to mail only ballots. I want my beer!

#80

Posted by: F Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:33 PM

Apparently I'm from Victorias Secret, OH. (There's a Victorias Secret, OH?!)

You don't have to be a political locality to have a postal code.

#81

Posted by: chigau (◦_◦) Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 8:52 PM

I voted for number 5 because I thought it was a marijuana plant. Then I changed my eyeglasses. oh well.

#82

Posted by: Samantha Vimes Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 9:09 PM

Reminding people to vote isn't a bad thing-- there are always a few people so over scheduled or distracted, that event hough they researched the issues, they see the sticker and goes, "Oh shit! It's today?" and quickly arrange to take a long lunch to vote.

#83

Posted by: paulmurray Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:35 PM

I know it outrages the Ameicans to the point that they start tossing around the F-word ("freedom"), but here in Oz, voting is *compulsory*. *Everyone* votes. This has two salutary effects:

1) elections aren't determined by lunatic fringe nutbars getting out their voting blocs.

2) The poor aren't disenfranchised by elections being held during working hours.

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Posted by: chigau (◦_◦) Author Profile Page | May 29, 2011 10:56 PM

#83 paulmurray
I've heard of compulsory voting.
I know I could just google it but would you give us a first-hand explanation of how They&trade compel voting?

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Posted by: Philip Legge Author Profile Page | May 30, 2011 12:15 AM

Chigau,

there’s no compulsion or duress involved, just the prospect of receiving a (fairly small) fine if you can’t provide a good reason for failing to vote. All in all it’s easier to vote informally if you don’t want to register a vote.

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Posted by: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawm3DqnsZeaBxlnp9eLGLyb69Ou_sKCFcF0 Author Profile Page | May 30, 2011 12:29 AM

Fucking lighten up, PZ. I like the little stickers. I stick them on a book shelf at home. They remind me that year after year, I at least tried to block the dipshit Republicans from destroying my country.

Smoke some bud, or get drunk, or go grok a rock.

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Posted by: https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawlsG4nfcZD23isprpJyECs6STFdMJi9nRU Author Profile Page | May 30, 2011 1:07 AM

I think it's better than the stickers paid for by Diebold that they handed out here the last couple of years...

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Posted by: Dreamstone Author Profile Page | May 30, 2011 6:48 AM

Here in the Four Corners area of New Mexico, we get to show off how multicultural we are. We can choose "I Voted" stickers in English, Spanish or Navajo. I always choose the Navajo myself, and hope no one asks me to try and pronounce it.

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Posted by: grudgedk Author Profile Page | May 30, 2011 12:09 PM

In order to vote, you have to give them an Ohio zip code to prove you're a resident, because there's no way a goddamn foreigner could possibly know an Ohio zip code.
Fake moon landing conspiracy. This is the kind of thing that lends that kind of thing credibility. Why? Because even people for whom the evidence of moon landings is irrefutable, have to wonder how a nation of people that fucking clueless managed to put two guys on the moon in less than 10 years.
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Posted by: camilla.fox Author Profile Page | May 30, 2011 8:15 PM

My young child has a ridiculously specific phobia of black women proffering stickers (generalized from a particular phlebotomist). He completely flipped his lid, last time I voted.

(I think having stickers is a good idea, and now that I know to head it off, I'm fine with it.)

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