Friday Cephalopod: Love at first sight

Imagining all of the octopus hickeys!

Vince, we need to have a talk. You seem to be undecided between preacher and comedian, as if it were an either-or choice. It really isn't, though. I've known a few reverends who proved that these two societal roles are not mutually exclusive. You can do it! But right now your material is ambivalently one or the other. You need to find a way to fuse these two aspirations. Have you considered writing some of your own devotionals?

First you claim, despite ten thousand years of artifacts showing throwing stick development and streamlining by humans, that a boomerang proves the existence of god. It isn't even reasonable enough to require contradiction.

Now, you bend language and reason out of shape to make an archaic bronze age book of tribal tales and mythology sound like it is vaguely relevant scientifically. No, not even if I squint and hold my tongue just right.

Great, Vince. Wonderful paragraph of insults.

Now make an argument.

#9 Vince: Once again, you reveal your ignorance. Proteins and peptides are synthesised routinely by chemical methods, often on large scales, as are vitamins for food use. Chemists first made these substances artificially in the 1930's.

Can't you get anything correct?

All living things must eat other living things

...Wow. Not even all animals kill for a living.

no one has made a protein molecule or anything you can eat unless it was extracted from another living thing

People have made short peptides from amino acids, which can in turn be made from air and water. Making a whole protein, with (by definition) at least 100 amino acid residues, would be a lot of work for no benefit, so nobody has bothered doing that, but it's fully possible.

Making DNA from scratch, BTW, is not hard. Whole genomes have been made.

Living beings consist of atoms, not of magic.

So no evolutionist has ever demonstrated the first thing about life formation

That is a separate subject from evolution. Evolution can only set in once a self-replicator exists.

or evolved anything.

Wow, that's not even grammatical.

Evolution is something populations do. It's not something you can do to anything. "This population evolves" means something, "I evolve this population" is jibberish.

Why do you use words that you don't understand!?!

you have not a single Atomic Element that shows a physical precursor to the process of evolution over time

Word salad.

there is no process of Particle Theory that evolves nothingness into

Word salad.

Er, Vince, you really have absolutely no idea, have you? As I said, many aminoacids are made commercially on ton scales by de novo synthesis from totally synthetic substances, as are vitamins for human consumption. Contact the Japanese company Ajinomoto if you don't believe me. They'll put you straight.

Are all evangelicals this foulmouthed?

@Chris
Normally, no, but when they get all hot and bothered by videos of cephalopod fornication, well... who can blame them, really?

@Vince
As for the risible claim that "all living things" must consume the products of other living things, I'd like to direct your attention first to these things called plants. Or, if you'd prefer your counterexamples to be more exotic, chemolithotrophic bacteria and archaea (from the relatively cosmopolitan iron bacteria to any of many specialized extremophiles).

@Chris: clearly, the only cheek "Vince" can turn is the one attached to his rectal sphincter. It seems that being so demonstrably ignorant of both actual facts _and_ his favority source of authority has perhaps given "Vince" a bit of an inferiority complex. Thus, he lashes out with anger, pride and envy (three for seven, not bad) at those who would remonstrate him for his lack of learning.

@Vince: "You" may not be able to eat dirt, but plenty of living creatures are! Even putting aside plants (which in your risible theology are not "living"), numerous creatures eat dirt, rocks, methane gas, whatever. Protein synthesis is a billion dollar a year industry, which presumably doesn't exist in your reality. As for the rest of your foul-mouthed diatribe, you should probably have a few sessions with your favorite pastor about communication before returning here.

@Michael Kelsey: Vince's ignorance is astounding, as is his wishful thinking. He is quite literally too dumb to realise how dumb he is.

So, Vince, what are those cetacean vestigial bones for? I've asked you several times, and you haven't given me an answer. You merely assert that they have a function.

You didn't even know about photosynthesis in green plants!

Sorry Nick K, I've had some issues adjusting my medications. I know I was thinking that god put those bones there to give Jonah a place to put a cot, but now I'm really confused.

@Malakyp and Michael Kelsey: Actually, Vince strikes me as a lonely, frustrated young teenage boy craving attention.

Sorry Chris, the voices in my head are very confusing. I read what I wrote a few minutes later, and I can remember writing it but it feels like it was a dream. I can get pretty nasty.

Vince: "Labelling the bones functional simply because you’re too much of an ignorant idiot to discern what they are for is just a stupid argument from ignorance. Try again, son.

My goodness! VG's a real case. Very sad.

We have evidence that amino acids are being synthesized in chemical reactions in gas clouds in deep space. So it's not very hard to do...

Why do you need a god?

"Why do you need a god?"
To be created silly man.

Vince, old chap, according to you at #13, aminoacids require divine intervention to be made. Companies like Degussa, Ajinomoto and Roche make tonnage quantities of these compounds completely synthetically. They will be more than happy to send you prices and specifications of their synthetic aminoacids if you contact them. Care to explain why you made this absurd and demonstrably false claim?