Prompted by an off-line conversation, a question about the magnum opus of Jim Steinman and Marvin Lee Aday:
I'm sure you can come up with lots of songs that would be even less appropriate. Feel free to leave them in the comments.
Now on ScienceBlogs: HeartlandGate: Anti-Science Institute's Insider Reveals Secrets
Thoughts on physics, politics, and pop culture, by a physics professor at a small liberal arts college, plus occasional conversations with his dog.
You've read the blog, now try the books! How to Teach Physics to Your Dog is published by Scribner, and available wherever books are sold. How to Teach Relativity to Your Dog is published by Basic Books and will be available 2/28/2012, as foretold by the Maya.
"Uncertain Principles" features the miscellaneous ramblings of a physicist at a small liberal arts college. Physics, politics, pop culture, and occasional conversations with his dog.
"Prof. Orzel gives the impression of an everyday guy who just happens to have a vast but hidden knowledge of physics." (anonymous student evaluation comment)
Emmy is a German Shepherd mix, and the Queen of Niskayuna. She likes treats, walks, chasing bunnies, and quantum physics.
« Teacher Evaluation and Test Scores, aleph-nought in a series | Main | Ode to a Rubber Dinosaur »
Category: Culture • Music • Pop Culture
Posted on: September 1, 2010 1:56 PM, by Chad Orzel
Prompted by an off-line conversation, a question about the magnum opus of Jim Steinman and Marvin Lee Aday:
I'm sure you can come up with lots of songs that would be even less appropriate. Feel free to leave them in the comments.
TrackBack URL for this entry: http://scienceblogs.com/mt/pings/146094
Comments
You left off my real answer, which is, "Why should I care what songs are played at other people's wedding receptions?" It's one thing if I am one of the principals in the wedding, but otherwise, de gustibus non disputandum. (Not to mention that it might be the DJ's bright idea--though why a DJ would pick that song I have no clue since it's not particularly danceable.)
Posted by: Eric Lund | September 1, 2010 2:26 PM
I once eavesdropped at a wedding reception in Utah and was horrified to note that the live band played "Fire and Rain" not once but twice!
Posted by: crowther | September 1, 2010 3:22 PM
Actually, off the same Meat Loaf album, "Two out of three ain't bad" might be considered at least contrary to other things that were said at the wedding...
At least parts of the lyrics of Leonard Cohen's "Everybody Knows" would raise some eyebrows, while his "Dance me to the End of Love" would be absolutely fitting!
Posted by: Thinker | September 1, 2010 3:46 PM
Beats "Strok'in" by Clarence Carter I guess, but not by much.
PBDL is one of those songs that is best the first time you hear it and benefits greatly from massive consumption of alcohol, but becomes more tedious with every playing. "Freebird" is another; mitigated by lashings of talented guitar work. Meatloaf seems to me to be a loser garage band that was rescued from obscurity by an alien wearing a black lace trimmed red corset and fishnet stockings, who proceeds to slay the singer with an ice axe. This scene often elicits applause from people who have hear Meatloaf one too many times.
On the other hand "Strokin" is shorter, doesn't require attention to a back story, and has a catchy beat. And if you don't pay much attention the really offensive part slips by unnoticed.
Posted by: Art | September 1, 2010 3:54 PM
Oh, there are dozens of less appropriate songs out there, but if you multiply the impropriety factor by the length of the song, it might be difficult to beat "PbtDL" without venturing into opera (and even then, Brunhilde's immolation aria might end up merely tying due to a slightly lower impropriety factor). You play Jimmy Soul and the song barely lasts long enough for anyone to notice.
One does worry about what "personal significance to the couple" could potentially mean with a song like this, though.
Posted by: Jennifer | September 1, 2010 4:09 PM
Actually, off the same Meat Loaf album, "Two out of three ain't bad" might be considered at least contrary to other things that were said at the wedding...
At one wedding reception I attended the DJ played Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive". Which is a perfectly fine song on the merits (and was among the bride's favorites), except that it is a contender for the ultimate breakup song. Not the most auspicious thing to play at a wedding reception. I don't think it ultimately mattered; the couple in question are still together, mumble years later.
Come to think of it, the "praying for the end of time" section at the end of PBDL isn't really all that appropriate, either, and for a similar reason. But that's not my call.
Posted by: Eric Lund | September 1, 2010 4:16 PM
If you're playing it at a wedding, it's important to have the groom and 3 ushers (or perhaps VIP guests if there aren't enough ushers) claim a "base" and slam a drink when their base is reached in the Phil Rizzuto portion of the song.
Of course, if your wedding reception's gone that far, there are bound to be many interesting and inappropriate stories transpiring.
Posted by: Captain C | September 1, 2010 6:06 PM
Also, if it's a shotgun wedding, PbtDL might be mandatory.
Posted by: Captain C | September 1, 2010 6:08 PM
"big dumb sex" by soundgarden off of their album "louder than love" might cause some head turning. that song was the reason the album got a parental advisory sticker on it.
Posted by: rob | September 1, 2010 6:08 PM
"Paradise" is absolutely the wrong song to use at a wedding; my ghu, the lyrics... Then again, I've heard "Every Breath You Take" by the Police as a wedding choice which also boggled me for total inappropriateness of sentiment.
-- Steve
Posted by: Anton P. Nym | September 1, 2010 6:27 PM
One does worry about what "personal significance to the couple" could potentially mean with a song like this, though.
Captain C at #7 and #8 may in fact be familiar with the specific Wednesday night events in which the song became significant for the person I was talking to, prompting this poll.
Come to think of it, the "praying for the end of time" section at the end of PBDL isn't really all that appropriate, either, and for a similar reason. But that's not my call.
That's the section I was thinking of as un-wedding-ish.
As indicated above, it makes sense in context for the people involved, but struck me as something likely to leave the DJ scratching his head.
(Out official first dance was to a Del Amitri song, but the other memorable dance at our wedding was the Afghan Whigs covering "Lost in the Supermarket" by the Clash, so I'm not opposed to unusual wedding music choices that are personally meaningful...)
Posted by: Chad Orzel | September 1, 2010 7:05 PM
Actually, it has been kind of traditional amongst my college friends to play that song at their wedding receptions. Because we are inappropriate, that way.
Posted by: Pam | September 1, 2010 7:11 PM
For those with classic R&B tastes, "Work With Me Annie" (and its many sequels, among them "Annie Had a Baby") and "Sixty Minute Man" might be fun.
Posted by: anon | September 1, 2010 7:52 PM
Captain C at #7 and #8 may in fact be familiar with the specific Wednesday night events in which the song became significant for the person I was talking to, prompting this poll.Oh, I'd assumed I prompted this (I'm honored, I think...) so I'm aware of the significance in *this* case. I just feared what readers voting for that option might be envisioning.
(It's not at all wedding-appropriate, but as long as it's not for the first dance, or heaven forbid the ceremony, I'm not much bothered about how wedding-appropriate songs during the reception are. Especially for after last call. Now we just need to decide on a !@# first dance song.)
Posted by: Jennifer | September 1, 2010 8:43 PM
There's an inexplicable fondness in some circles for playing Tom Jones singing "Delilah" at weddings; it's about a man killing his wife for being unfaithful....
Posted by: Chrisj | September 2, 2010 8:25 AM
Also, if it's a shotgun wedding, PbtDL might be mandatory.
If it's a shotgun wedding, Billy Idol's "White Wedding" or the Georgia Satellites' "Keep Your Hands To Yourself" are probably better choices. At least people can dance to those two songs. The relationship implied in the former song is something best not thought about at a wedding reception, though.
Then again, I've heard "Every Breath You Take" by the Police as a wedding choice which also boggled me for total inappropriateness of sentiment.
If both bride and groom are of a certain age--roughly speaking, born between 1961 and 1975--then they probably remember this song as a hit without having thought about what the lyrics are suggesting. The reinterpretation of this song as a stalker's anthem came several years later.
Posted by: Eric Lund | September 2, 2010 9:48 AM
my band was asked to play "Take Away This Ball And Chain" once.......
Posted by: perry | September 2, 2010 10:53 AM
That "reinterpretation" of the Police song is from Sting, who ought to know. There are a lot of hit songs with lyrics that are disturbing if you listen to them; Dave Barry argued years ago that this doesn't matter, because teenagers (the target audience for new music) aren't listening to the lyrics anyway.
Posted by: Vicki | September 2, 2010 12:04 PM
Yeah, that's tacky, but what if that's how they met? Still, Weddings should be risque, they should celebrate the others better qualities, not just the sexual aspects.
Posted by: Northampton House | September 2, 2010 3:51 PM
I personally get really tired of hearing the "Rose". I know it's really popular but jeez, it gets annoying. Maybe its just a thing in my area.
Maybe I should move.
Posted by: peter - home speaker blog | November 2, 2010 11:54 AM