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McCain cites "strong evidence" that thiomerosal causes autism

Category: AutismPolitics
Posted on: March 3, 2008 2:56 PM, by NotoriousLTP

I nearly aerosolized Diet Pepsi all over my computer screen when I read this:

It a town hall meeting Friday in Texas, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., declared that "there's strong evidence" that thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that was once in many childhood vaccines, is responsible for the increased diagnoses of autism in the U.S. -- a position in stark contrast with the view of the medical establishment.
McCain was responding to a question from the mother of a boy with autism, who asked about a recent story that the U.S. Court of Federal Claims and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had issued a judgment in favor of an unnamed child whose family claimed regressive encephalopathy and symptoms of autism were caused by thimerosal.

"We've been waiting for years for kind of a responsible answer to this question, and are hoping that you can help us out there," the woman said.

McCain said, per ABC News' Bret Hovell, that "It's indisputable that (autism) is on the rise amongst children, the question is what's causing it. And we go back and forth and there's strong evidence that indicates that it's got to do with a preservative in vaccines."

McCain said there's "divided scientific opinion" on the matter, with "many on the other side that are credible scientists that are saying that's not the cause of it."

Come on, man!

There is not "strong evidence" that thimerosal causes autism. Just the opposite, there is not a shred of evidence that it causes it. This is not a subject about which there is "divided scientific opinion" in the medical establishment. We are all on board with the idea that A) mercury doesn't cause autism and B) saying that it does is a risky and dangerous falsehood because it encourages parents not to kid their kids vaccinated.

Why is McCain even speaking about this issue? What core constituency is he attempting to please? I guess I agree with Megan McArdle's assessment that since most people don't vote on this issue -- and those who do are more likely to vote positively -- he has nothing to lose by pandering to cranks:

The desperate parents who believe that thimerosol caused their child's autism are highly motivated people with a very good chance of voting for anyone who says he believes them. The researchers who study thimerosol probably weren't going to vote for McCain anyway. No one else votes on the issue.

The McCain campaign must have concluded that people who care about accuracy in scientific issues are a disorganized and not particularly powerful constituency. This speaks poorly both for the McCain campaign, but it also speaks poorly for those of us trying to organize that constituency. It would appear that the only way to ensure accuracy in scientific statements from candidates is to ensure that there are electoral penalties associated with uttering blatant falsehoods. At the moment, sadly, we as a constituency are in no place to provide those penalties.

On the other hand, as just a tactical observation for the presidential candidates, there are scientific issues that you give an opinion on and there are ones that you don't. This is one that you don't. McCain clearly did not consider the shit-storm that he was likely to ignite with these comments.

This comment puts me in a similar place to Orac. I had planned on voting for McCain, but comments like this make him seem at best a blatant panderer and at worst a crazy person. Further, I do consider his scientific views sufficiently important to vote on them. (As I said before, I won't vote for Ron Paul because among other things, he doesn't believe in evolution.)

I don't know if I am ready to assume that McCain is an anti-science president yet. He has shown more willingness than most Republicans to consider global warming and problem and discuss solutions. But I still find comments of this nature distressing.

Grrrrr. I hate election years sometimes.

Comments

1

Boy, I don't know how you could support McCain after his support of teaching ID. Regardless, what's really striking here to me is just how definitively McCain lays down his position. This isn't just a case of being uninformed--this is a case of being misinformed. He's getting some bad scientific advising, and he'd better correct that ASAP if he wants to have any credibility with scientists.

Posted by: Nick Anthis | March 3, 2008 3:36 PM

2

Even if you're a Republican, you should vote for the seperation of church and state and the Supreme Court. Only Obama and Clinton offer that. I haven't heard anything from them on autism, but Obama did say: "“Evolution is more grounded in my experience than angels.” And since he belongs to the same church as Rev. Barry Lind, the head of Americans United for the Seperation of Church and State (who helped out in Dover), I'm leaning toward him.

Posted by: teacherninja | March 3, 2008 3:37 PM

3

Right on teacher ninja. McCain = Huckabee with out the squirrels.

Posted by: J-Dog | March 3, 2008 3:42 PM

4

Check out my DKos diary on this issue and its relation to lawsuits.

Posted by: Swan | March 3, 2008 4:55 PM

5

Here's Clinton's position on vaccines and autism

We don't know what, if any, kind of link there is between vaccines and autism - but we should find out.

http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/03/obama-and-clint.html

Obama fudges even more, but in the above answers, and on his campaign website, juxtaposes positions on heavy metal toxicity and autism.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

So if McCain is a YEC on this issue, Obama and Clinton are Dembskis.

Posted by: Gerard Harbison | March 3, 2008 5:26 PM

6

I wonder who he'll choose as his Science Advisor.

Posted by: Maxine | March 4, 2008 11:36 AM

7

No need to *assume* anything. THere's plenty of evidence out there. For me, anyone who was onstage when people said they didn't believe in evolution, and didn't laugh them off the stage, is anti-science.

Posted by: Andy | March 4, 2008 9:52 PM

8

this is why people who aren't morons don't vote Republican.

Posted by: monson | March 5, 2008 12:08 AM

9

Even though I can't stand anything about Senator McCain and would not consider him for president, I happen to think that he DOES KNOW more than you think. You, like the that bird who keeps his head in the sand, need to wake up. But you won't, will you.
Thanks for post,
John

Posted by: John Grimm | March 5, 2008 5:20 PM

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[S]aying that [thimerosal causes autism] is a risky and dangerous falsehood because it encourages parents not to kid their kids vaccinated.

Except that thimerosal is not even in most vaccines anymore (for some strange reason). Yep, it was removed from most, but not because it was dangerous or anything. Nope. Not dangerous. Trust us. We're from the government, and we're here to help. That thimerosal is safe for injecting into children can be clearly inferred from studies that show thimerosal is a good preservative for contact lens cleaners.

Meanwhile, it should be an interesting if unwilling experiment--now that thimerosal is out, will autism trends increase, decrease, or remain unchanged.

By the way, would you be willing to get a body weight proportional injection of thimerosal compared to what a toddler used to get?

Posted by: William Wallace | March 12, 2008 1:19 PM

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