When you get into a tight place and everything goes against you, till it seems as though you could not hang on a minute longer, never give up then, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn. -Harriet Beecher StoweLast week, our longtime reader Pamela asked if I could explain how the tides work. As you all know, when the tide comes in at the ocean, the water level appears to rise (and can do so significantly), while at low tide, the water level appears to drop.
This goes in a cycle twice per day, with the ocean level reaching its highest point twice daily (high tide), having the water recede over a period of six hours until it reaches its lowest level (low tide), and then having the water level rise again over a period of another six hours until it reaches the next high tide. Variations in the height of the water level are typically on the order of three meters (maybe ten feet) each day, depending on a couple of factors, which I'll go into below.
The reason we have any tides at all are twofold: the Earth is pretty big and gravity cares how far away you are. The farther away you are from something, the weaker gravity's pull is on you. If you were to take a look at our Solar System, and you were to move the Earth out to where Pluto is, you'd find that the force of gravity from the Sun on the Earth would be an astounding 1,600 times weaker than it is today, as Pluto is 40 times as far away as Earth is from the Sun!
If you were to look at everything in our Solar System and ask what affects the Earth the most, gravitationally, you'd think to look at two things: the Moon, because it's massive and it's very, very close to us, and the Sun, because it's extremely massive, even though it's quite far away. Let's start by considering the Moon.
The Earth is quite far from the Moon, at an average distance of 384,400 km. When we speak about this distance, however, we are talking about the distance from the center of the Earth to the center of the Moon. But one edge of the Earth will always be closer to the Moon by 6,370 km (the radius of the Earth), and the opposite edge will always be farther from the Moon by the same amount. This means -- after a little math -- that the force of gravity of the Moon on the far side of the Earth is about 3.2% weaker at the far edge of the Earth than it is at the center of the Earth, and about 3.4% stronger at the edge of Earth nearest the Moon than it is at the center. This difference in forces between the near edge, the center, and the far edge defines what we call tidal forces.
This means the effect of the Moon's gravity on Earth is to try to flatten it a little bit at the poles and wherever Moonset/Moonrise is occurring, and to stretch it at its nearest point (when the Moon is directly overhead) and its farthest point (exactly 12 hours from the Moon's apex). This force is weak enough that it wouldn't be a big deal at all if the Earth were simply a solid ball; the tidal forces from the Moon are unable to stretch rocks and dirt by more than a few millimeters. But the Earth is covered in water, which changes its shape extremely easily!
(Image Credit: Steve Gaunt.)
So while the solid ground of the Earth remains in its roughly spherical shape, the oceans bulge by just a few meters in two spots around the equator: at the point closest to the Moon and at the point farthest from the Moon. As the solid ground rotates, each point on the Earth passes through the side closest to the Moon and the side farthest from the Moon once per day: these are your two high tides.
The two times that correspond to Moonrise and Moonset are your two low tides per day. And the closer to the equator you are, the more severe your tides are, while the closer to the poles you are, the less drastic your tides are!
But the Moon isn't the only gravitational body in our Solar System affecting the tides on Earth. While none of the other planets, moons, asteroids or comets in the Solar System matter, the Sun does!
The tidal forces from the Sun are weaker than those from the Moon, but are still quite strong, causing tides that are about 30% as strong as the Moon's. When the Sun and the Moon are lined up, during a New Moon and during a Full Moon, you get the highest high tides and the lowest low tides, known as Spring Tides.
But when the Sun and Moon are at right angles to each other (during the Moon's first and last quarter, or when it appears half-full), you get the lowest high tides and the highest low tides, known as Neap Tides.
In fact, if you're meticulous, you can measure the water level over a long period of time, and can see not only the high tides and the low tides, but also where the Spring Tides and Neap Tides occur. Take a look at this data from Bridgeport, Connecticut.
And that's how tides work! I freely admit that there are small, subtle details that come into play if you want to predict the times and heights of the tides extremely accurately. But just by considering the gravity of the Sun, Earth and Moon, and by calculating the force on the oceans, you can do an incredible job of predicting all of the above about the tides. Thanks to Pamela for a riveting question, and I hope you all enjoyed the answer!
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THANK YOU, Ethan. The explanation and the graphics explain it so well!! Wonderful!
Posted by: Pammie | February 24, 2010 8:42 PM
Only one of your graphics is accurate; the other graphics (and your prose) explain two increasing tides, but don't explain the two decreasing tides!
In fact, many of your graphics are used as examples of common ways that textbooks botch coverage of tides. For more information, read Donald Simanek's page on the subject.
Posted by: John Armstrong | February 24, 2010 9:00 PM
The tides in St Vincent's Gulf in South Australia are interesting. At the suburban beaches of Adelaide, the tides occur at roughly the same time each day, regardless of the phase of the moon. The reason is that the resonant frequency of the Gulf is close to one day, so solar tides are amplified and are slightly higher amplitude than the lunar tides. But they are so close in amplitude that every fortnight they practically cancel each other out and the resulting almost complete absence of tide is called locally the dodge tides.
Posted by: Keith Harwood | February 24, 2010 9:12 PM
I am having trouble understanding why there would be a bulge on the opposite side to the moon (at point C in the 6th picture). Can anyone please explain that to me?
Posted by: Lindsay | February 24, 2010 9:41 PM
Your explanation makes it seem like the moon is literally pulling the water away from the Earth and hence the bulge. As I understand it, this is wrong (especially as the Sun has a stronger gravitational effect on the Earth than the Moon does). This might make sense to a layperson (myself being a layperson) but then why don't we get one bulge on the side closest to the moon?
I was under the impression that it had more to do with how the horizontal gravity vector actually pushes the water horizontally to where the furtherest and closest points to the moon are? Thus the water bulges due to being pushed sideways along the Earth to where the both high tides are.
I think another important point here is that the Sun exerts a much stronger gravitational force on the Earth than the Moon does. But, "... tidal force depends not on the strength of the lunar gravitational field, but on its gradient (which falls off approximately as the inverse cube of the distance to the originating gravitational body)"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide#Forces
The thing is that there is no simple explanation for tides! They are very complex mathematically and thus very hard to grasp - or that is at least what I think.
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Posted by: Peter Si | February 24, 2010 10:01 PM
nice!
Posted by: Sophos | February 24, 2010 10:35 PM
@Linsey: let me give it a try...
Instead of the Earth and oceans, let's pretend we are dealing with three equal weights attached to a long rope (200km long), one in the middle of the rope and one on each end, stretched radially away from the moon.
The gravitational force experienced by the weights falls off as 1/R^2, so if the middle weight experiences a gravitational force A/R^2, the outer weight experiences a force of A/(R+100km)^2, which is less than the middle weight, and the inner weight experiences a force of A/(R-100km)^2, which is greater than the middle weight. Because all three must fall at the same rate (they are tied to each other, after all) the rope must be under tension.
If this rope contraption is in orbit around the moon such that the middle weight is in free-fall, and we adjust our point of view to be on the middle weight, then both the outer and inner weights will give the appearance of pulling away in opposite directions.
Looking at image 6, the three vectors are C = ->, B = -->, and A = --->. If you were to use a frame of reference which made the center of the Earth in free-fall, that would be the equivalent of adding -B = . Effectively, the water would be pulled radially outward by C', radially inward by A', and not at all by B'.
If, instead of a rope, you had a large ring, and you measured the pull of the moon's gravity (relative to the center of the ring) on various parts of the ring, you get a diagram like the 5th down. Every part of the ring experiences a tidal force which has a radial component away from the center of the ring, and tangentially towards the center of the ring. The tangential component comes from the fact that the moon's gravity is acting like it's coming from a point, so the forces on the ring are not parallel, but radiate from a point. This also contributes to the tidal flows.
Posted by: Blaise Pascal | February 24, 2010 10:47 PM
Blaise Pascal, thanks so much for that! I can make sense of it now.
Posted by: Lindsay | February 24, 2010 10:54 PM
I love your tides explanation. Nuances aside, it's a great illustration. But, I am confused by your statement that synchronizes low tides to moonrise and moonset. Checking the times for my location, these don't correspond at all. Are there further details that would explain that, or am I misunderstanding?
Posted by: Tavi Greiner | February 24, 2010 11:19 PM
@Tavi
There's always further details. For one thing the Earth doesn't spin freely under the oceans, but rather drags the oceans along with it. Water can't flow instantly either, so the end result is that instead of the tidal bulges being directly under the moon, they are slightly ahead of the moon by about 3 degrees, which means the tides arrive (in the deep ocean) about 12 minutes "fast".
For another, local coastal conditions have a major effect on the timing and size of tides. Keith Harwood described a situation where resonance affects the period of the tides, and the Bay of Fundy is famous for the shape of the bay greatly increasing the height of the tides.
Posted by: Blaise Pascal | February 24, 2010 11:44 PM
I used to get confused by the second bulge (opposite the Moon-side), but I've learned the key to remember is imaging the centripetal force "flinging" the water to the outside. Just like if you were to grab someone's hands and spin around (merrily), you would expect both participant's long hair would get swung to the "outside" (assuming they had long hair).
Remember, the Earth pulls on the Moon, and the Moon pulls back on the Earth, just like two people swinging around one another. And just like a very small person getting swung around by a very large person, they rotate around their common center of mass (barycenter). Like in these animations.
Posted by: Cody | February 24, 2010 11:45 PM
That's really good stuff. I had an argument with someone once, about what caused tides. While I did not have nearly the breadth of information that you did, my answer was basically "the moon and gravity". There response was that gravity isn't strong enough and the moon isn't big enough to cause that much of a chance, and when I asked them what they thought caused tides, they replied: "magnetism".
Posted by: dogmatichaos | February 24, 2010 11:54 PM
Blaise @10 and Tavi @9,
I read Tavi's comment this evening and was going to write a response, but before I got to it, Blaise's comment popped up.
Blaise, that is exactly what I would have hoped to have said. Your explanation, as far as I understand it, is dead on.
Posted by: Ethan Siegel | February 25, 2010 12:42 AM
John,
I don't understand your objection. Are you complaining that the other figures don't explain why there is a bulge along the Earth-Moon line, but no bulge perpendicular to it? If so, that's not an inaccuracy so much as an incompleteness, and I wouldn't call it a "botch" of anything.
Posted by: Ambitwistor | February 25, 2010 4:29 AM
Nice explanation. And I'm hesitant to complicate things too much, but I can't help myself:
I would point out that the image of the tides (ferinstance the one labelled "Steve Gaunt") are in disagreement with experimental observation. In fact, I’d venture that the OPPOSITE of that drawing is closer to the truth.
If you hang out for a day at the beach and watch the moon and the tides (on the day of a new moon, so you don’t have to worry about solar vs lunar tides) you will quickly find that high tide occurs pretty close in time to moonrise and moonset, and low tide occurs pretty close in time to the moon being overhead.
If you’re a landlubber, you can check out the tides online at, say, http://www.protides.com/hawaii/1332/ To simplify things, make sure to concentrate on a days with a new moon to avoid the complications of the solar and lunar tides fighting each other.
Your model is correct for a static earth and moon, but the actual dynamic system (where the ocean is resonantly-driven system) the response is almost (but not quite) 90-degrees out of phase with the drive. Which I think is some pretty neat physics as well.
Posted by: Anonymous Coward | February 25, 2010 3:10 PM
Anonymous Coward @ 15:
I'm afraid that if you want to complicate things, it gets much more complicated, and there's no "90-degrees out of phase" resonance phenomenon involved. For one thing, the high-tide/low-tide pattern you observe in Hawaii is only true for some parts of the Earth. E.g., the same site you linked to shows that for coastal Oregon (http://www.protides.com/oregon/1005/), the tides are almost perfectly in phase with the moon (i.e., high tide when moon is overhead or at the nadir, low tide at moonrise and moonset). So what's really going on?
If all we had was a uniform Earth, covered by a uniform ocean, then things would be pretty simple, and the cotidal lines (lines connecting simultaneous high tides, low tides, and stages in between) ought to look like lines of longitude, with the tidal pattern moving from east to west (relative to the solid Earth).
But when you ask: how does the water actually move under the influence of the Moon's tides (ignoring the Sun's influence for the moment), when the Earth is rotating and the water is in ocean basins, with complicated ocean floor, continental, and island shapes -- then things get messy, with multiple circulation patterns. This picture shows the cotidal lines (white lines in the figure) for the real Earth, which are clearly nothing like a simple longitudinal pattern.
This page shows the pattern around Great Britain, from which you can see that when it's high tide in northeast Scotland, it is simultaneously low tide in East Anglia! The tide actually moves south along the east coast of Britain, but northeast along the coasts of Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany.
So the phase of local tides relative to the phase of the Moon's tidal forcing on the rotating Earth is a complicated function of the Earth's topography, and can end up being pretty much any value you like.
Posted by: Peter Erwin | February 26, 2010 8:06 AM
I'd add that local effects outweigh all the global effects considerably. Despite your statement that tides at the equator are bigger,here in the UK, tides are typically between 4 and 7 metres, whereas South Sea Islands seem to get about 1/2 a metre at most.
Posted by: davem | February 26, 2010 9:55 AM
@Davem
Actually, one of the sites I looked at had a FAQ of "Why aren't there tides at the equator?"
The answer was basically that the main axis of the ellipsoid of the oceans caused by the tides is aligned (roughly) with the moon, which is on an inclined orbit around the Earth. Because of various factors, this inclination is between 18 and 28degrees relative to the equator. Most of the time, the slice through this ellipsoid along the equatorial plane doesn't have a large amount of variation, so the tides at the equator are low.
I suppose that would suggest that when there is an eclipse on the equinox the equatorial tides are large.
Posted by: Blaise Pascal | February 26, 2010 2:53 PM
Tahiti has almost no tide, while the Bay of Fundy and the English channel islands have huge tides. Blaise is correct.
Posted by: DDeden | March 3, 2010 4:14 PM
THANK YOU so much for this great post! I am going to be using it to discuss tides in my 7th grade science class at our Colorado Virtual School this fall!
Thanks again,
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This is exactly what I was searching for.All my doubts are cleared now.
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As a student of personal development, the real icing on the cake for was the opening quotation by Stowe. By explaining just why we must never give up when the "tide is high," you have truly made my day!
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This is an incisive post and very commendable. Would you please elaborate on the cause and/or effect of tides on climate change.
Posted by: Rhonda | April 19, 2010 1:20 PM
This is a great article. I had this topic get brought up in a conversation the other day and now I know how it all works. Thanks for the great article and letting me share.
Posted by: Low-E | April 19, 2010 2:47 PM
Hey, this was pretty thorough.. Just wanted to say thanks as this helped me quite a bit with my sons homework tonight. We enjoyed reading it together actually and making sense of what he was learning in school.. thanks.
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Posted by: Peter | April 20, 2010 12:23 AM
Just by considering the gravity of the Sun, Earth and Moon, and by calculating the force on the oceans, you can do an incredible job of predicting the tides of the ocean. This is easier said than done though. I still think it takes a lot of experience to be able to do this accurately. Nevertheless, the post was very informative.
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Posted by: FranColt91 | April 21, 2010 5:37 AM
The Earth is quite far from the Moon, at an average distance of 384,400 km. When we speak about this distance, however, we are talking about the distance from the center of the Earth to the center of the Moon. But one edge of the Earth will always be closer to the Moon by 6,370 km (the radius of the Earth), and the opposite edge will always be farther from the Moon by the same amount. This means -- after a little math -- that the force of gravity of the Moon on the far side of the Earth is about 3.2% weaker at the far edge of the Earth than it is at the center of the Earth, and about 3.4% stronger at the edge of Earth nearest the Moon than it is at the center.
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I could never get this back in grade school& high school. This post actually made it easier to understand. Thanks!
Posted by: Schnell Abnehmen | April 21, 2010 6:33 PM
If you are on the coast and the moon is directly overhead, you should experience a high tide. If the moon is directly overhead on the opposite side of the planet, you should also experience a high tide.
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Posted by: GiaSimmons28 | April 22, 2010 4:59 AM
The tidal force generated by a planet is based on two things - the mass of the planet and its distance from the earth - and it is the latter of these that is far more significant. So, the effect of the planets is negligible.
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Posted by: Marco Panza | April 22, 2010 5:22 AM
The reason we have any tides at all are twofold: the Earth is pretty big and gravity cares how far away you are. The farther away you are from something, the weaker gravity's pull is on you. If you were to take a look at our Solar System, and you were to move the Earth out to where Pluto is, you'd find that the force of gravity from the Sun on the Earth would be an astounding 1,600 times weaker than it is today, as Pluto is 40 times as far away as Earth is from the Sun!
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Posted by: Alex | April 22, 2010 11:03 AM
You know after reading some of these comments, its all making sense now. I really didn't know much about how they change but its really interesting now that I know how they work. great article and thanks for the information.Alarm California
Posted by: Frank | April 23, 2010 10:10 AM
I could never get this back in grade school nor in high school. This post actually made it easier to understand. Thanks!
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Tide happen twice a day, on most coasts, the tide creeps up the beach and you have high tide. It then goes back, and you have high tide. It then goes back, and you have low tide. Some places have four tides a day. In others, the rise and fall of the water level is too small to be noticed.
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Posted by: Sam | May 6, 2010 4:20 PM
If you were to look at everything in our Solar System and ask what affects the Earth the most, gravitationally, you'd think to look at two things: the Moon, because it's massive and it's very, very close to us, and the Sun, because it's extremely massive, even though it's quite far away. Let's start by considering the Moon.
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I always knew that tides occurs twice in a day but never knew that its because of the gravity depending on how far our earth is. Its really amazing to know and understand nature in a scientific way.
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Posted by: Jim | May 9, 2010 8:28 AM
Hey Ethan, I'm a scuba diving instructor and this article is a brilliant way to explain my students about tides. Thanks mate
Posted by: PADI IDC | May 9, 2010 7:24 PM
Each day there are two high tides and two low tides. The time between high and low tide is a little over 6 hours and the entire tidal cycle repeats itself four times each day.
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Posted by: MBA Lady | May 19, 2010 12:17 PM
The two times that correspond to Moonrise and Moonset are your two low tides per day. And the closer to the equator you are, the more severe your tides are, while the closer to the poles you are, the less drastic your tides are!
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This is a good image show, as at the point closest to the Moon and at the point farthest from the Moon. As the solid ground rotates, each point on the Earth passes through the side closest to the Moon and the side farthest from the Moon once per day.
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Just by considering the gravity of the Sun, Earth and Moon, and by calculating the force on the oceans, you can do an incredible job of predicting the tides of the ocean. This is easier said than done though. I still think it takes a lot of experience to be able to do this accurately. Nevertheless, the post was very informative.Hotels
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Posted by: Milt Sparks | June 18, 2010 12:47 AM
This is a very good image for me. I did not have nearly the breadth of information that you did, my answer was basically "the moon and gravity". There response was that gravity isn't strong enough and the moon isn't big enough to cause that much of a chance.
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Posted by: racia | June 22, 2010 3:13 AM
I was just talking to some about this at the beach in Tampa.
Posted by: Tampa | June 24, 2010 2:40 PM
Variations in the height of the water level are typically on the order of three meters (maybe ten feet) each day, depending on a couple of factors, which I'll go into below.
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I think this post can be posted as a complete article in a science or Physics book.
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A tide is the regular and predictable movement of water caused by astronomical phenomena - the way the earth, moon and sun move in relation to each other and the force of gravity. These are the values that you can see in tide tables.
Posted by: Capsiplex | July 1, 2010 7:01 AM
I've never really understood this till now. All I knew was that the moon had something to do with the tides but never could explain how. Thanks! This really made it clear! Too bad I didn't see this post when I was still in school!
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This is a good image viewing. This force is weak enough that it wouldn't be a big deal at all if the Earth were simply a solid ball; the tidal forces from the Moon are unable to stretch rocks and dirt by more than a few millimeters.
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Posted by: werslin | July 6, 2010 10:51 PM
The tidal forces of gravity cause the side of the earth closest to the moon to accelerate faster than the side of the earth farthest from the moon. This is because gravity is not a uniform force, becoming weaker the farther the objects are from each other.
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Posted by: bagnle | July 21, 2010 8:00 AM
I love your tides explanation. Nuances aside, it's a great illustration. But, I am confused by your statement that synchronizes low tides to moonrise and moonset. Checking the times for my location, these don't correspond at all. Are there further details that would explain that, or am I misunderstanding?source naturals herbs
Posted by: charlie1213 | July 22, 2010 5:46 AM
The tidal forces of gravity that you wrote about are due to the properties of gravitational waves. The tidal effects of gravity are controlled by the properties of vertical and horizontal separation.
Gravitational waves pull to the center of an object. This causes objects vertically aligned to the axis of the force of gravity to pull away from each other. This is because the object closest to a gravitational force will accelerate towards its center slightly faster than the object farther away. The ocean closest to the moon accelerates to the moon faster than the ocean on the far side of the earth.
The horizontal separation property of the tidal effect causes two objects that are spaced horizontally to decrease their horizontal separation as they move towards the gravitational force. This is the phenomenon of tidal contraction. The water pulls horizontally across the earth's surface toward the center of the gravitational force. This causes the ebb and flow of the tides.
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Posted by: nicoduc | July 22, 2010 2:20 PM
This has always been somewhat of a challenge for me to understand, along with some of my classmates. Just the way the tides roll and the waves shift, it's kind of complicated. Your diagrams have helped a whole lot though, and I appreciate it very much! Definitely sharing this with my teacher.
Posted by: baby jumperoo | July 22, 2010 4:49 PM
I am having trouble understanding why there would be a bulge on the opposite side to the moon (at point C in the 6th picture). Can anyone please explain that to me?Solaray
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The tidal waves of the sun and moon have had me thinking for a little while now. Just how it works is truly amazing.
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I absolutely love that quote by Harriet Beecher Stowe in the opening of this article. Makes complete sense because the tide will push you up into a wall...then right after it will bring you right back out :)
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Gravitational waves pull to the center of an object. This causes objects vertically aligned to the axis of the force of gravity to pull away from each other. This is because the object closest to a gravitational force will accelerate towards its center slightly faster than the object farther away. The ocean closest to the moon accelerates to the moon faster than the ocean on the far side of the earth.
The horizontal separation property of dds agency the tidal effect causes two objects that are spaced horizontally to decrease their horizontal separation as they move towards the gravitational force. This is the phenomenon of tidal contraction. The water pulls horizontally across the earth's surface toward the center of the gravitational force. This causes the ebb and flow of the tides.
Posted by: Sammby | August 16, 2010 4:10 AM
But the Moon isn't the only gravitational body in our Solar System affecting the tides on Earth. While none of the other planets, moons, asteroids or comets in the Solar System matter, the Sun does!
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Most tides are semidiurnal because of the physics of gravity and the relationship between the earth and its oceans. When the moon is pulling on one side of the earth it pulls both the earth and everything on it, but the earth is elastic.
The tidal forces of gravity cause the side of the earth closest to the moon to speed up faster than the side of the earth farthest from the moon. This is because gravity is not a uniform force, becoming weaker the farther the objects are from each other.
The far side of the earth moves slower in relation to the middle side of the earth causing an opposite tidal bulge on an ocean centered on the far side. This will generate a corresponding tide on the opposite side of the earth.
I'll give an example. The Atlantic Ocean is centered below the moon on one side of the earth. This creates a low tide because the middle of the ocean is bulged causing the ocean to move away from the shore anime. The Pacific Ocean will bulge in the middle on the opposite side of the earth, making a corresponding tide. If the fringe of an ocean is centered under the moons gravitational force then a high tide forms.
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I don't understand your objection. Are you complaining that the other figures don't explain why there is a bulge along the Earth-Moon line, but no bulge perpendicular to it? If so, that's not an inaccuracy so much as an incompleteness, and I wouldn't call it a "botch" of anything. Niche Ideas
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Instead of the Earth and oceans, let's pretend we are dealing with three equal weights attached to a long rope (200km long), one in the middle of the rope and one on each end, stretched radially away from the moon.
The gravitational force experienced by the weights falls off as 1/R^2, so if the middle weight experiences a gravitational force A/R^2, the outer weight experiences a force of A/(R+100km)^2, which is less than the middle weight, and the inner weight experiences a force of A/(R-100km)^2, which is greater than the middle weight. Because all three must fall at the same rate (they are tied to each other, after all) the rope must be under tension.
If this rope contraption is in orbit around the moon such that the middle weight is in free-fall, and we adjust our point of view to be on the middle weight, then both the outer and inner weights will give the appearance of pulling away in opposite directions.
Looking at image 6, the three vectors are C = ->, B = -->, and A = --->. If you were to use a frame of reference which made the center of the Earth in free-fall, that would be the equivalent of adding -B = . Effectively, the water would be pulled radially outward by C', radially inward by A', and not at all by B'.
If, instead of a rope, you had a large ring, and you measured the pull of the moon's gravity (relative to the center of the ring) on various parts of the ring, you get a diagram like the 5th down. Every part of the ring experiences a tidal force which has a radial component away from the center of the ring, and tangentially towards the center of the ring. The tangential component comes from the fact that the moon's gravity is acting like it's coming from a point, so the forces on the ring are not parallel, but radiate from a point. This also contributes to the tidal flows.
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Nice presentation, in addition tides also vary in frequency. In some locations, tides are diurnal, meaning that there is one high tide and one low tide every day. Provillus In other areas, tides are semi-diurnal, with two high and two low points.
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@Linsey: let me give it a try...
Instead of the Earth and oceans, let's pretend we are dealing with three equal weights attached to a long rope (200km long), one in the middle of the rope and one on each end, stretched radially away from the moon.
The gravitational force experienced by the weights falls off as 1/R^2, so if the middle weight experiences a gravitational force A/R^2, the outer weight experiences a force of A/(R+100km)^2, which is less than the middle weight, and the inner weight experiences a force of A/(R-100km)^2, which is greater than the middle weight. Because all three must fall at the same rate (they are tied to each other, after all) the rope must be under tension.
If this rope contraption is in orbit around the moon such that the middle weight is in free-fall, and we adjust our point of view to be on the middle weight, then both the outer and inner weights will give the appearance of pulling away in opposite directions.
Looking at image 6, the three vectors are C = ->, B = -->, and A = --->. If you were to use a frame of reference which made the center of the Earth in free-fall, that would be the equivalent of adding -B = . Effectively, the water would be pulled radially outward by C', radially inward by A', and not at all by B'.
If, instead of a rope, you had a large ring, and you measured the pull of the moon's gravity (relative to the center of the ring) on various parts of the ring, you get a diagram like the 5th down. Every part of the ring experiences a tidal force which has a radial component away from the center of the ring, and tangentially towards the center of the ring. Soccer PicksThe tangential component comes from the fact that the moon's gravity is acting like it's coming from a point, so the forces on the ring are not parallel, but radiate from a point. This also contributes to the tidal flows.
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Cool In addition, if I were to plot the pattern of the Moon's 'tidal' gravitational force added to the Earth's own gravitational force, at the Earth's surface, you would be able to resolve the force vectors at different latitudes and longitudes into a radial component directed towards the Earth's center, and a component tangential to the Earth's surface.
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Hi, tell me pls - i don't understand your objection. Are you complaining that the other figures don't explain why there is a bulge along the Earth-Moon line, but no bulge perpendicular to it? If so, that's not an inaccuracy so much as an incompleteness, and I wouldn't call it a "botch" of anything.
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How would the tide be affected if there were two moons? Would it hypothetically cause a lot of damage?
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