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Even more on Expelled in Tempe

The basic incompetence of the Expelled producers continues. This morning I received an e-mail telling me that the scheduled screening (7pm on April 3rd) as been re-scheduled for 6pm on that date. Where the incompetence of these boyos comes in is that they cc’ed a bunch of people on the message and I thus have contact information for attendees – folks with e-mails like "boughtbythecross," "homeschoolma," and "covenant-dad."

As it happens I can’t attend the showing … wont be missing much.

Comments

  1. #1 RBH
    March 31, 2008

    … folks with e-mails like “boughtbythecross,” “homeschoolma,” and “covenant-dad.”

    Gosh, that sure looks like a random collection of people, huh?

  2. #2 o-ren
    March 31, 2008

    Their privacy policy is listed here:
    http://www.getexpelled.com/privacy.php

    It says (in part), “we may provide your personally identifiable information with third parties that we use for our own business purposes, such as to process your order or request for information, or to provide services for us.”

    So, what services are you providing to the Expelled people? I think you should send a billing statement along.

    Or alternately, given that everyone else on the CC list saw your e-mail address, do you have any legal recourse for the breach of policy? Probably not, but it’s fun to dream.

  3. #3 PaulR
    March 31, 2008

    How brain dead do you have to be to NOT know what BCC means for email?? Oh wait, dont tell me, they think it means “Before Christ Came”…?

  4. #4 rmp
    March 31, 2008

    PaulR, thanks, I’ve just snorted my brandy out of my nose.

  5. #5 ERV
    March 31, 2008

    Arg You WILL be missing something– If theyve left the ‘totally new and completely original’ animation in.

    Now Im going to have to email jesusluvsmykidsmorethanyourspraisehisname@hotmail.com for insider info.

  6. #6 Tulse
    March 31, 2008

    Wow, that list and a little basic From: Address spoofing could cause all sorts of mayhem (“Dear Expelled ticket-holder, please note that the screening of the film has been moved to the following location: Cheaters Gentlemen’s Club, 418 Main St…”). But that would be wrong.

  7. #7 Todd
    March 31, 2008

    That reminds me. I need to apply for citizenship somewhere else.

  8. #8 David Marjanović
    March 31, 2008

    The stupid oxide! It stinks!

    Stupid carries the seed of its own destruction, or something.

  9. #9 Inoculated Mind
    March 31, 2008

    So did they say anything in the email about whether or not Mathis was going to be there?

  10. #10 Ferrous Patella
    March 31, 2008

    It seems to me that a lot of people should have PeeZed “crash” there in box on April 1st. He is due for another “uninvited” event.

  11. #11 CleveDan
    March 31, 2008

    they are the experts on molecular machines and Hitler but the can’t use a mailing list or BCC…LOL

  12. #12 Monado, FCD
    March 31, 2008

    Watch it, though! They did a bait and switch on Troy Britain zt the Biola showing and did not show the film at their “showing,” for which he paid $10 — just the promo clips and some speakers:

    The Movie and the event”, “backstage film pass”, sounds like you might actually see the movie right? Wrong! Instead all you get for your ten clams and your forty minute drive (one way) is essentially a commercial for the movie with a few clips and a lot of ID babble from Stephen C. Meyer, Ben (Mad Dog) Stein, and three or four also spokes.

    They’ve been violating their privacy policy all over the place. There’s nothing in it about running the list of registered guests past the jr. assistant producer so he can decide whom to bar from the showing.

  13. #13 Monado, FCD
    March 31, 2008

    I meant to include a link to Troy Britain’s reaction. He’s does try to engage them in dialogue.

    John, if you sent the other e-mail recipients a review of the movie you’d be providing a service, especially if you threw in a few Web links to research about the movie’s thesis, the nature of science, and the preogress of evolutionary theory since Darwin. Then you could send a bill for 3rd-party services, say for “follou-wp and additional publicity.”

  14. #14 Greg
    March 31, 2008

    I got an email one time from someone at hisbloodinme; maybe they did it on purpose so the Xians can all email each other and get together…can’t be?

  15. #15 Divalent
    March 31, 2008

    Yes, I think a “reply to all” telling them you’ve decided not to come, and spelling out the reasons why, may be called for here.

  16. #16 ShellyD
    March 31, 2008

    It’s strange how Christian their email addresses sound, since we all know ID is strictly science and completely unrelated to religion.

  17. #17 J-Dog
    March 31, 2008

    I like Divalent’s idea… but Tulse’s is pretty attractive too. Can you do both?
    Teach The Controversy?

  18. #18 natefoo
    March 31, 2008

    Send them all a link to expelledexposed.com =)

  19. #19 bibanu
    April 1, 2008

    John – whence this hate/despising of anything that is Christian (religious) etc?? Many (most?) of your blogs are poking fun at Christians, creationists, Christian journals etc.

    Aren’t there better things for an intelligent guy like you to do?? After all – it is clear that you believe that all these people are idiots who have no idea what they are talking about etc…Then why the effort and hate(?) to always refer to them etc.?

    Did you have a bad experience with religion? Were your parents Christian fundamentalists who forced you to go to church? Whence the obsession with these people?
    I am curious.

    Don’t you have something better to do?
    I guess not (?).

    Blessings,
    Chris

  20. #20 JonnM
    April 1, 2008

    Re #19

    I haven’t registered much (any) hate here, or indeed in any science blogs, – but contempt, ridicule, and annoyance, – yes, definitely!
    But aren’t the GFers bringing it upon themselves, aren’t their ridiculous claims, intolerance, and superstition the real reason for the retribution from all that have more rational world-views?
    For nearly 2000 years christianity has made life a misery for millions, it has promoted hatred, misogyny, and injustice, – so to get rid of the scourge more than polite rebuffs are needed.

    It is not as if the counter-attacks on religion takes all that much time, because the GFers themselves provide most of the material to support the atheist arguments.

    GFer: G for god, and Fer for the vernacular of ‘copulator’.

  21. #21 Ian
    April 1, 2008

    bibanu -

    We all had a bad experience with religion when we found out what lies and general dishonesty the theists are capable of. But that’s to be expected and it’s not really the problem. I don’t think any of us care if they lie to themselves. It’s when they try to force their lies on others, particularly children, that bothers a good many of us.

  22. #22 Bacchus Veritas
    April 1, 2008

    CHRIS – Let us turn the tables, shall we?

    Aren’t there better things for an intelligent guy like you to do (than to troll blogs with different views than yours)?? After all – it is clear that you believe that all these people are idiots who have no idea what they are talking about etc…Then why the effort and hate(?) to refer to them etc.?

    Did you have a bad experience with non-theists? Were your parents Christian fundamentalists who forced you to go to church? Whence the obsession with these people?
    I am curious.

    Don’t you have something better to do?
    I guess not (?).

    If John hasn’t trolled your hallowed blogs, than you should show him the same respect. Your veiled politeness is dishonest.

    Bacchus

  23. #23 Jason
    April 1, 2008

    From ScienceBlogs terms of service:

    You may not submit any Submission that is unlawful, harmful, harassing, threatening, abusive, hateful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, pornographic, profane, vulgar, indecent, sexually explicit or otherwise objectionable, or that would constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, violate any third party’s rights of privacy or publicity or otherwise violate any applicable law or right.

    A lot of the suggestions for what to do with the email addresses (including the suggestion by PZ Myers to sell them) obviously would violate ScienceBlog’s policies.

  24. #24 bibanu
    April 4, 2008

    Re#19-21.

    I guess you did have a bad experience with religion – as it is clear from most of your answers. The following quote is illustrative:

    “We all had a bad experience with religion when we found out what lies and general dishonesty the theists are capable of…”

    Are you suggesting that atheists did not lie (do not lie)and are not capable of lies. I hope you are kidding (trust me – I was raised in communist Romania where most things were lies in the papers).

    As far as my politeness being dishonest (#22) – it is simply not true. I try to answer everybody with “gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:16). I apologize if many times I do not succeed.

    I still think that it is a waste of time to try to combat people who are deluded (I assume that you believe that these people are in the same category of those who believe that the earth is flat-?), and a God who does not exist.

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