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    « Tweedy splendour | Main | Shorter Discovery Institute »

    Disco. Inst. tries to "expel" critics from Youtube

    Category: CreationismPolicy and Politics
    Posted on: June 11, 2009 9:51 PM, by Josh Rosenau

    Casey Luskin, artist's rendering
    Afarensis and PZ note that the Discovery Institute is trying to hide Youtube videos criticizing their pet dachshund, Casey Luskin.

    Luskin Someone at Disco. has apparently been hitting his their own product, a danger in the Disco. scene. He or she thinks that they have a copyright claim on video made by Fox News. He Disco. doesn't. Fox News does, so if anyone is going to take down this video, it will be Fox, not Disco.

    CaseyWhichever Disco spinner did this also needs to understand that copyright law is not a tool for censorship. Copyright exists, according to the US Constitution, "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts." While I might question whether anything associated with the term "Disco" can be considered science – let alone a useful art, I don't question the necessity for the law to treat those concepts broadly for purposes of copyright.

    I can and do question that it serves any useful purpose, for science, for art, for democracy itself, that a petty and fallacious claim of copyright infringement might be used to silence debate. Disco., especially Casey, makes a big show of talking about civility, yet DI is using lies and deceit to block their opponents. They talk a good game about freedom, but when the pedal hits the metal, they're happy to use whatever underhanded legal maneuvers they can to silence critics.

    This isn't the first time they abused copyright to shut someone up. Casey sent my friend Les Lane and my Scibling ERV nastygrams for posting his picture. Actual lawyers showed that Casey's claims had no legal merit, and the matter died down. In this case, Youtube's hair trigger for copyright infringement might not just doom the videos, but the Youtube account of Casey's critic. The damage would be much more widespread than any dispute over Casey's stunning visage.

    Here are the videos. Pass them around before the Disco. gang hustles them off the floor.

    Updated to add: Casey denies sending the takedown notice. He doesn't say who sent it, calling that "an internal DI matter." This is a point on which we disagree, clearly. However, I made certain assumptions about the author of the notice, and as we all know, when you make assumptions, you make an ass of u and mptions. I made small adjustments above to clarify the matter, and regret the error.

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    I noticed when I first saw this clip, something kind of freaky. I had once read that if you watch a persons eyes when they are talking, if the eyes twitch to their right frequently, it means they are lying. Supposedly, it showed activity in the left (ostensibly the creative)hemisphere of the brain as they are "creating" the narrative. I don't put a whole lot of stock in it, but as he's talking about Haekel's embryos, he does it.

    Posted by: Cappy | June 12, 2009 7:58 AM

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    Sorry, right hemisphere.

    Posted by: Cappy | June 12, 2009 8:00 AM

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    Afarensis and PZ note that the Discovery Institute is trying to hide Youtube videos criticizing their pet dachshund, Casey Luskin.

    Calling Casey Lusking a dachshund is an insult to thesenoble, intelligent beasts.

    Posted by: Josh in California | June 12, 2009 10:58 AM

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    Where is this denial by Casey? After all, he's (allegedly) a lawyer, and should know at least a little bit about DMCA. Doesn't he have any influence at the DI? (I know, I know: rhetorical question.)

    Posted by: RBH | June 13, 2009 3:46 PM

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    Luskin is a lawyer who works AT the DI, not a lawyer who works FOR the DI. Casey is simply a spokesperson who does what he's told. Sort of like a go-fer which is why he's known far and wide on the Internet as the DI's Attack Gerbil. Squeaky, but mostly harmless.

    I doubt that Casey has the intellectual ability or the authority to mount a DMCA claim on his own, but it's likely, as the most technically savvy of the denizens of the DI, that he actually pushed the buttons.

    "Trust me, Obi-wan, I am your Emperor."

    Posted by: Doc Bill | June 15, 2009 12:09 PM

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    On the Really, Really Funny HAHAHAHAHAHAHA side of things,

    the videos that the DI hosts on YouTube get maybe a hundred hits.

    Luskin the Fool hosted by Thunderf00t is getting tens of THOUSANDS of hits. No telling how many hits all the mirrored sites combined have gotten.

    Hey, Luskin, great PR Coup for you and your fellow miscreants! Nice Job, Gerb.

    Posted by: Doc Bill | June 16, 2009 1:53 PM

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    I doubt that Casey has the intellectual ability or the authority to mount a DMCA claim on his own

    Posted by: zayıflama | June 21, 2009 6:50 PM

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    Casey Luskin says


    Squueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

    Posted by: Rev. BigDumbChimp | June 23, 2009 2:19 PM

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