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Indian magician fails to kill host on TV with black magic

Category: Weird
Posted on: March 26, 2008 10:23 AM, by The Omnibrain

steve_icon_medium.jpgWe have TV psychics here in America that seem to do pretty darn well considering they are complete and utter frauds. In India they have a tantrik (black magician) who claims to be able to do things like cause a woman to lose her uncle, hit her head against the car door and find her legs covered with lesions. A little more violent that our domestic variety eh?

In any case this tantrik named, Pandit Surinder Sharma (India's version of someone like Averi Torres) was invited onto a TV show to challenge Sanal Edamaruku who did not believe Sharma had any real 'powers'. During the show it got a little weird...

During the discussion, the tantrik showed a small human shape of wheat flour dough, laid a thread around it like a noose and tightened it. He claimed that he was able to kill any person he wanted within three minutes by using black magic. Sanal challenged him to try and kill him. The tantrik tried. He chanted his mantras (magic words): "Om lingalingalinalinga, kilikili...." But his efforts did not show any impact on Sanal - not after three minutes, and not after five. The time was extended and extended again. The original discussion program should have ended here, but the "breaking news" of the ongoing great tantra challenge was overrunning all program schedules.

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Now the tantrik changed his technique. He started sprinkling water on Sanal and brandishing a knife in front of him. Sometimes he moved the blade all over his body. Sanal did not flinch. Then he touched Sanal's head with his hand, rubbing and rumpling up his hair, pressing his forehead, laying his hand over his eyes, pressing his fingers against his temples. When he pressed harder and harder, Sanal reminded him that he was supposed to use black magic only, not forceful attacks to bring him down. The tantrik took a new run: water, knife, fingers, mantras. But Sanal kept looking very healthy and even amused.

After nearly two hours, the anchor declared the tantrik's failure. The tantrik, unwilling to admit defeat, tried the excuse that a very strong god whom Sanal might be worshipping obviously protected him. "No, I am an atheist," said Sanal Edamaruku. Finally, the disgraced tantrik tried to save his face by claiming that there was a never-failing special black magic for ultimate destruction, which could, however, only been done at night.

Ooops...another psychic/magician/huckster bites the dust.

I have one question though - How is he so sure that his technique could kill a man? Doesn't that mean that he's tried it out before successfully? I think the Indian police should arrest this man for murder since he's obviously killed before with his black magic.

-via boingboing-

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1

This does really seem to be a case of a person who firmly believes in his own magic. He's a real faker as opposed to a faker faker.

Posted by: Greg Laden | March 26, 2008 11:51 AM

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In order for this type of magic to have any real results, the person having the "spell" on them has to believe. It comes down to power of suggestion. It is possible that this has worked for Sharma in the past, if he was using it on people that already feared him. Fear is the mind killer

Posted by: Corinne | March 26, 2008 12:08 PM

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Maybe he messed the spell up so that Sanal *will* actually die, but very slowly and over the course of several decades...

Posted by: Ed Yong | March 26, 2008 12:08 PM

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You didn't finish the story! They *did* set up another session at night, outdoors, and the tantrik was still unable to kill Sanal!
http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/2008/20080310/en_1.html

Posted by: synapse | March 26, 2008 12:36 PM

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"Now the tantrik changed his technique. The new technique involved discharging a gun, making sure the bullet passed through Sanal's brain."

Posted by: David | March 26, 2008 1:06 PM

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"Now the tantrik changed his technique. The new technique involved discharging a gun, making sure the bullet passed through Sanal's brain."

I was gonna say, Id've thought for sure that the knife thing would have worked. Maybe he just wasn't using it right.

Posted by: Coin | March 26, 2008 3:25 PM

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Tantriks are creating such a scaring atmosphere that even people, who know that black magic has no base, can just break down out of fear, commented a scientist during the program. It needs enormous courage and confidence to challenge them by actually putting one�s life at risk, he said. By doing so, Sanal Edamaruku has broken the spell, and has taken away much of the fear of those who witnessed his triumph.

"Actually putting one's life at risk"? I guess we were all kind of thinking the tantrik would transmogrify his powers of batshit insanity into apeshit insanity and just go bonkers with that knife.

Posted by: AL | March 26, 2008 8:21 PM

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Yeah, I think the trick is to be on national television when the tantrik guy starts waving a knife. Or have the police handy.

Posted by: Brian | March 27, 2008 11:05 AM

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Sharma should try the black magic on himself..........he may get better ratings on TV

Posted by: Vectorpedia (Rick) | March 27, 2008 6:18 PM

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If you want to see another (similar) laugh-a-minute kind of woo-smackdown search youtube for the video of the kiai master who offered $5000 for anyone who could beat him in a fight. Some K2/UFC practical fighter completely p3wns him in about 2 seconds. It's hysterical: lose $5,000, your reputation, and be a global laughing stock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj6I

Joking aside, it's the same kind of thing. The guy obviously must have believed in his own woo or he'd never have paid to get his ass kicked. There's footage at the beginning of the guy working out with some students and his woo APPEARS to work. So what's going on? Are his students so invested in the woo that they fall over from it?

This stuff is fascinating.

Posted by: Marcus Ranum | March 27, 2008 11:39 PM

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