I’ve never done this before, but the previous threads are getting rather messy and I’m closing them down. Feel free to use this thread for your ongoing discussion. A few thoughts first.
Obviously some of the rhetoric is heated, which is fine. But if you’re going to throw around invective, don’t complain if it’s thrown back. Also, please remember that an ad hominem argument is invalid if it substitutes for substantive argument, but that insults that simply color, rather that replace and argument are not invalid, just, well, colorful.
Also remember that when trying to understand how to take care of the medical needs of our fellow human beings, the goal is to use the best evidence we have to help them. We can’t just make things up. We need to be open to rejecting our beliefs if they are disproved, and to accepting new ideas if they do not require overturning chemistry, physics, and biology as they are currently understood.
Have at it.