stellar death https://scienceblogs.com/ en Messier Monday: The Owl Nebula, M97 https://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/01/28/messier-monday-the-owl-nebula-m97 <span>Messier Monday: The Owl Nebula, M97</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>"A wise old owl lived in an oak<br /> The more he saw the less he spoke<br /> The less he spoke the more he heard.<br /> Why can’t we all be like that wise old bird?" -<em>The Immortal Poet Bromley</em></p></blockquote> <p>To your naked eye, the night sky appears littered with thousands of individual points of light: the stars and planets so familiar to us. But through even a small telescope or a pair of binoculars, not only do the number of visible stars increase into the hundreds-of-thousands or even the millions, but a slew of deep-sky objects become visible to us as well. Each monday, we highlight one of the deep-sky objects from Messier's original catalogue. Here on Starts With A Bang, it's time for another <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/?s=messier+monday">Messier Monday</a>!</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/PatrickFreeman.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26974" title="PatrickFreeman" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/PatrickFreeman-600x900.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="900" /></a> <p>Image credit: Patrick Freeman, of <a href="http://www.astro-pat.com/">http://www.astro-pat.com/</a>; box around M97 by me.</p> </div> <p>While most of the Messier objects are either open star clusters, globular clusters, or galaxies, there are <a href="http://messier.seds.org/diffuse.html">a few rarities</a> that turn out to be sites of extreme star birth or <a href="http://messier.seds.org/snr.html">death</a> within our galaxy. There's only <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/10/22/messier-monday-the-crab-nebula-m1/">one supernova remnant</a> in Messier's catalogue, but the second rarest type of object -- of which there are only four -- are the <a href="http://messier.seds.org/planetar.html">Planetary Nebulae</a>. Today, we're going to take a look at the <a href="http://messier.seds.org/m/m097.html">Owl Nebula</a>, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owl_Nebula">97th object</a> in Messier's catalogue.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/m97_far.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26975" title="m97_far" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/m97_far-600x375.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="375" /></a> <p>Image credit: Me, using the free software Stellarium, available at <a href="http://stellarium.org/">http://stellarium.org/</a>.</p> </div> <p>To find the Owl Nebula is a straightforward but observationally challenging task, as it's one of <a href="http://messier.seds.org/dataMag.html">the faintest objects</a> (at magnitude +10) in the entire catalogue! If you can find the Big Dipper in the northern part of the sky, locate the 2nd-to-last star in the cup area, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Ursae_Majoris">Merak</a>, and backtrack just about three degrees towards the other star (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phad">Phad</a>) that marks the bottom of the cup.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97_near.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26976" title="M97_near" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97_near-600x375.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="375" /></a> <p>Image credit: Me, using the free software Stellarium, available at <a href="http://stellarium.org/">http://stellarium.org/</a>.</p> </div> <p>Located among the stars, past the faint, elongated object (that turns out to be <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_108">another Messier object</a> in its own right), you'll find a small, faint spherical object, only about three <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_of_arc">arc-minutes</a> (or one <em>twentieth</em> of a degree) in diameter.</p> <p>To the naked eye through a telescope, it appears whitish and faint, and you might mistake it at low magnification for some type of puffed-up star. But if you're willing to do long-exposure color photography, you'll find a greenish core surrounded by a reddish outline.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97-M108-2009-02-20.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26977" title="M97 and M108" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97-M108-2009-02-20-600x572.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="572" /></a> <p>Image credit: © 2007-2011 Don J. McCrady, of <a href="http://starryvistas.net/">http://starryvistas.net/</a>.</p> </div> <p>Oh, and if I hadn't yet mentioned it, there are two dark "eyes" in the center of this nebula. What's going on here?</p> <p>First off, this is no star. At least, not anymore. When stars between about 40% and 400% the mass of the Sun run out of their hydrogen fuel, they move on to <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/01/16/the-evolution-of-starlight/">burning helium into heavier elements</a>, and continue to do so until the core temperatures and densities, high though they may be, are not high enough for any further nuclear fusion to occur.</p> <p>And when that happens -- and it will happen to our star, too -- the swollen, giant star <a href="http://www.physics.uc.edu/~hanson/ASTRO/LECTURENOTES/W07/Death/Page1.html">dies in a gentle-but-spectacular</a> fashion.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/NebulaMosaic.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-26979" title="NebulaMosaic" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/NebulaMosaic.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="666" /></a> <p>Image credit: <a href="http://astrojan.ini.hu/">http://astrojan.ini.hu/</a>, retrieved from Margaret Hanson, U. of Cincinnati.</p> </div> <p>The outer layers of the star are gently blown off over thousands of years, forming a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_nebula">planetary nebula</a>, while about the inner 50% of the star contracts down to form a very hot, dense, and <em>small</em> objects known as a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dwarf">white dwarf</a>. It was not known, when they were first discovered, that these nebulae were related to the death of a star, and so planetary nebula is a misnomer, but it's already stuck.</p> <p>Not that we knew what we were looking at, anyway. The first recorded sketch of the Owl Nebula comes from <a href="http://messier.seds.org/more/m097_rosse.html">Lord Rosse in the 1840s</a>, and he's the one who coined the term "Owl Nebula." Want to see his sketch?</p> <div style="width: 393px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/url.jpeg"><img class="size-full wp-image-26980" title="url" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/url.jpeg" alt="" width="383" height="311" /></a> <p>Image credit: Messier 97 by Lord Rosse.</p> </div> <p>Yeesh!! The second "star" (or point of light) was never confirmed by his contemporaries nor by anyone else, but the name stuck. What causes this owl-faced feature?</p> <p>Only about 20% of the planetary nebulae we've discovered are roughly spherical; the other 80% eject a large amount of their matter in two opposing directions, and take on a more axisymmetric shape.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/PNebs.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26981" title="PNebs" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/PNebs-600x451.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="451" /></a> <p>Image credit: Bruce Balick, Howard Bond, R. Sahai, their collaborators, and NASA.</p> </div> <p>In the case of the Owl Nebula, these two jets are <em>almost</em> aligned with our line-of-sight, but are slightly off, and it's the neutral dust in those jets that blocks a sufficient amount of light from the expanding shell to cause the dark "eyes" to have their observed appearance.</p> <p>Let's take a look at a better, high-quality image of the Owl Nebula for a superior view.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97_master_down.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26982" title="M97_master_down" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97_master_down-600x530.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="530" /></a> <p>Image credit: © 2013 Mazlin from Star Shadows Remote Observatory (SSRO).</p> </div> <p>The different colors -- green/blue on the inside, red on the outside -- show off the presence of different elements. Hydrogen provides the red on the outskirts, which makes sense, since the outermost layers of a star this massive will be mostly hydrogen. The inner colors are caused (mostly) by the strong presence of oxygen, which has a prominent line at about 500 nanometers.</p> <p>If you view this through a large telescope (8" or bigger in aperture), you may also notice that one of the eyes is "darker" than the other.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97H9C-80.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26983" title="M97H9C-80" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97H9C-80-600x569.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="569" /></a> <p>Image credit: ©2006 Gary Breneman, of <a href="http://www.astrobirdphoto.com/">http://www.astrobirdphoto.com/</a>.</p> </div> <p>That's because the "darker" eye is from the side of the nebula where the jet is emitted towards us, while the "fainter" eye is where the jet is emitted away from us.</p> <p>This nebula is about three light years across and is around 6,000 years old. The star it came from was originally somewhere between 150%-to-200% the mass of our Sun, and the white dwarf at the center is now about the size of Earth, 70% the mass of the Sun, and at a surface temperature of around <strong>100,000 Kelvin</strong>. (Or a temperature nearly 20 times that of our own Sun!)</p> <p>But despite its seemingly simple, spherical structure, a closer look shows that there an <a href="http://www.starshadows.com/galley/display.cfm?imgID=304">amazing and intricate structure</a> to this stellar remnant.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97_Master3.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26984" title="M97_Master3" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/M97_Master3-600x622.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="622" /></a> <p>Image credit: © 2013 Harvey, processed by Vicent Peris, José Luis Lamadrid, Jack Harvey and Steve Mazlin with the program PixInsight. Via SSRO.</p> </div> <p>There are plenty of other views that showcase the presence of different elements, including <a href="http://www.lostvalleyobservatory.com/page37nbm97owlnebula/">this one</a> that showcases hydrogen, oxygen and silicon (all in false color) below.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/m97owl_quattrocchi.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26985" title="m97owl_quattrocchi" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/m97owl_quattrocchi-600x443.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="443" /></a> <p>Image credit: Copyright 2009, Keith B Quattrocchi, of <a href="http://www.lostvalleyobservatory.com/">http://www.lostvalleyobservatory.com/</a>.</p> </div> <p>The Owl Nebula has also been looked at <a href="http://www.wendelstein-observatorium.de:8002/astropics/astro_en.html">in ultraviolet light</a>, which uniquely shows off the gas surrounding the nebula. (And the one surprisingly <em>very</em> blue star near it.)</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/m97.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26986" title="m97" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/m97-600x598.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="598" /></a> <p>Image credit: A. Riffeser, Claus Gössl, &amp; Christoph Ries of Wendelstein Observatory.</p> </div> <p>But perhaps the highest-resolution image I've seen -- even though it's dominated by the hydrogen filter -- comes from <a href="http://www.gemini.edu/node/11431">the 8-meter Gemini Telescope</a>, from the Multi-Object Spectrograph installed just a few years ago.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/fig1_fullres.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26987" title="fig1_fullres" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/fig1_fullres-600x485.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="485" /></a> <p>Image credit: Émilie Storer (Collège Charlemagne, QUE), André-Nicolas Chené (HIA/NRCof Canada), and Travis Rector (U.Alaska, Anchorage).</p> </div> <p>For an object 2,600 light years away, this owl-eyed nebula isn't even as unique as you might think, as there's a <a href="http://www.astrodonimaging.com/gallery/display.cfm?imgID=209">Southern Owl Nebula</a>, too! Viewed side-by-side with the "regular" Owl Nebula, M97, there's a difference in the elemental composition of these nebulae, but there's a striking resemblance.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/OwlNS_goldman.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-26988" title="OwlNS_goldman" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2013/01/OwlNS_goldman-600x400.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="400" /></a> <p>Image credit: Don Goldman.</p> </div> <p>And that's <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/01/28/messier-monday-the-owl-nebula-m97/">Messier 97, the Owl Nebula</a>! Looking back, we've taken a look at the following Messier objects:</p> <ul> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/10/22/messier-monday-the-crab-nebula-m1/">M1, The Crab Nebula</a>: October 22, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/11/05/messier-monday-the-lagoon-nebula-m8/">M8, The Lagoon Nebula</a>: November 5, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/12/31/messier-monday-the-great-globular-cluster-in-hercules-m13/">M13, The Great Globular Cluster in Hercules</a>: December 31, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/11/12/messier-monday-an-ancient-globular-cluster-m15/">M15, An Ancient Globular Cluster</a>: November 12, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/11/26/messier-monday-a-straggling-globular-cluster-m30/">M30, A Straggling Globular Cluster</a>: November 26, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/12/03/messier-monday-a-rich-open-star-cluster-m37/">M37, A Rich Open Star Cluster</a>: December 3, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/01/07/messier-monday-the-dog-stars-secret-neighbor-m41/">M41, The Dog Star’s Secret Neighbor</a>: January 7, 2013</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/12/24/messier-monday-the-beehive-cluster-praesepe-m44/">M44, The Beehive Cluster / Praesepe</a>: December 24, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/10/29/messier-monday-the-pleiades-m45/">M45, The Pleiades</a>: October 29, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/01/14/messier-monday-messiers-oldest-open-cluster-m67/">M67, Messier’s Oldest Open Cluster</a>: January 14, 2013</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/12/10/messier-monday-a-reflection-nebula-m78/">M78, A Reflection Nebula</a>: December 10, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/11/19/messier-monday-bodes-galaxy-m81/">M81, Bode’s Galaxy</a>: November 19, 2012</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/01/21/messier-monday-the-southern-pinwheel-galaxy-m83/">M83, The Southern Pinwheel Galaxy</a>, January 21, 2013</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/01/28/messier-monday-the-owl-nebula-m97/">M97, The Owl Nebula</a>, January 28, 2013</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/12/17/messier-monday-a-great-galactic-controversy-m102/">M102, A Great Galactic Controversy</a>: December 17, 2012</li> </ul> <p>Come back next week for another Messier Monday, where we'll take a look at another one of these deep-sky wonders of the night!</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/startswithabang" lang="" about="/startswithabang" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">esiegel</a></span> <span>Mon, 01/28/2013 - 12:31</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/astronomy-0" hreflang="en">Astronomy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/physics" hreflang="en">Physics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/stars" hreflang="en">Stars</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/m97" hreflang="en">M97</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/messier" hreflang="en">messier</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/messier-monday" hreflang="en">messier monday</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/monday" hreflang="en">monday</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/nebula" hreflang="en">nebula</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/nebulae" hreflang="en">nebulae</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/outer-layers" hreflang="en">outer layers</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/owl-nebula" hreflang="en">owl nebula</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/planetary-nebula" hreflang="en">planetary nebula</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/red-giant" hreflang="en">red giant</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/stellar-corpse" hreflang="en">stellar corpse</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/stellar-death" hreflang="en">stellar death</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/sun-death" hreflang="en">sun death</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/white-dwarf" hreflang="en">white dwarf</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/stars" hreflang="en">Stars</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1517427" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359404290"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What a gorgeous nebula! When I get my big scope done, this is one of the first things I'll be looking for. I love Messier Monday posts (as well as everything else you post!) </p> <p>-Chelsea</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517427&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="AUAWn--p9U0qNdNAbqEQ7weDp3HwLOiZ5wnbYsgXitI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chelsea (not verified)</span> on 28 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517427">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1517428" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359430959"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I thought it looked rather like a pokemon - see our Deep Sky Video about M97 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgk_65UMKTM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgk_65UMKTM</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517428&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4YJk9Gml9StMoWkFbOpGa1kDdEY44YPHaOpR752dw34"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Paul (not verified)</span> on 28 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517428">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="33" id="comment-1517429" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359446542"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Paul,</p> <p>That is a good video; thanks for sharing the link! I actually thought of either a Koosh ball with eyes or the "dwarf in the flask" from Fullmetal Alchemist, but I can understand seing a pokemon as well.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517429&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fk6h7IjMLilbNn_iFF6mL3VrNs5krInkEukFfdHSsBs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/startswithabang" lang="" about="/startswithabang" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">esiegel</a> on 29 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517429">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/startswithabang"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/startswithabang" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/pastey-120x120_0.jpg?itok=sjrB9UJU" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user esiegel" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1517430" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359446842"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Is the light from that nearby star reflecting off of the Owl Nebula? Around the dimple.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517430&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yg5p0vhrTuVj7AVvgEuIW_vAkFHUlyvXLAjfZRGfgcM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">William George (not verified)</span> on 29 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517430">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="33" id="comment-1517431" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359447507"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I went to the original, full-resolution image of the Owl Nebula as taken by the 8m Gemini Telescope to find out what that "little nebula" by M97 is.</p> <p>Looks like it's a large galaxy, that appears to be grouped together with others, and hence is interacting/star-forming as well, which explains its bright presence in the UV image as well. See for yourself in this photo I've linked to <a href="https://twitter.com/StartsWithABang/status/296291116972658688/photo/1">here</a>!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517431&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6UGz1YSZPUIP4NCmEL2jOetRlettZosu7wXzrXi2kf0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/startswithabang" lang="" about="/startswithabang" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">esiegel</a> on 29 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517431">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/startswithabang"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/startswithabang" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/pastey-120x120_0.jpg?itok=sjrB9UJU" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user esiegel" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1517432" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359459511"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Is that the stellar remnant dead center in the nebulae? </p> <p>Planetary nebulae (can we really never change the name?) are so cool. </p> <p>I also think white dwarfs are cool. Sure black holes and neutron stars get all the attention when it comes to insane densities -- but electron-degenerate matter with a solar-mass object being the size of the earth is pretty insanely dense too! And there's so many of them in the universe, and will be so many more!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517432&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zjkmHRX6KxdK2YdqcsJs1QZgGAxnznJ-HWdVSC_3Ml0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">CB (not verified)</span> on 29 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517432">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1517433" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359461159"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What would we change it to? Star rings?</p> <p>Eeeeew!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517433&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7D2vQ_-Bk3MZn0s3aixwNCPJsp1RrsUTad9d3DRJ9tQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wow (not verified)</span> on 29 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517433">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1517434" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1359462001"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Starsplosion nebulae!</p> <p>But seriously, I'm sure astronomers could think of something as easy on the ears as planetary nebulae and as easy on the brain as something that makes sense. Remnant nebulae?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1517434&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Y_A5nISsoMaq-3tRGosD5MLVT9l9zGQl0bVp1FnmECU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">CB (not verified)</span> on 29 Jan 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1517434">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/startswithabang/2013/01/28/messier-monday-the-owl-nebula-m97%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:31:34 +0000 esiegel 35559 at https://scienceblogs.com Another Trip Around the Sun https://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2012/08/03/another-trip-around-the-sun <span>Another Trip Around the Sun</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>"How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?" -<em>Satchel Paige</em></p></blockquote> <p>Today marks another year and another trip around the Sun for me. For you, and me, and everything on Earth that makes it through another year on this world, there's a whole lot we get to experience.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/0124-0610-2618-0055_setting_sun_and_earths_horizon_from_space_o.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19102" title="0124-0610-2618-0055_setting_sun_and_earths_horizon_from_space_o" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/0124-0610-2618-0055_setting_sun_and_earths_horizon_from_space_o-600x396.jpg" alt="The Earth and Sun from the ISS" width="600" height="396" /></a> <p>Image credit: NASA / ISS Expedition 13.</p> </div> <p>Some things are tiny: the Earth's rotation slows by about two <em>millionths</em> of a second each year, while some are large: we hurtle over 900 million kilometers in outer space as we orbit around the Sun. Our Earth spins just over 366 times on its axis, while our one revolution around the Sun leaves us with 365 (and an occasional 366) days in a year.</p> <p>But looking beyond the Earth, practically everything you can imagine in the Universe has undergone a lot in the last year you've been on Earth.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/Tracy_Caldwell_Dyson_in_Cupola_ISS-950x632.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19103" title="Tracy_Caldwell_Dyson_in_Cupola_ISS-950x632" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/Tracy_Caldwell_Dyson_in_Cupola_ISS-950x632-600x399.jpg" alt="Tracy Caldwell Dyson in the ISS's cupola" width="600" height="399" /></a> <p>Image credit: NASA, of Tracy Caldwell Dyson, via Wayne Hale.</p> </div> <p>Every satellite we've put up, including the vaunted International Space Station, races around the Earth as we go about our daily lives. The low-Earth-orbit ones (like the ISS) race around the Earth at speeds around 17,000 miles-per-hour (27,000 km/hr), meaning that over the course of a year, they orbit the Earth around <strong>6,000 times</strong>.</p> <p>But while our Solar System is full of interesting facts and motions, everything I've mentioned and much, much more hurtles around the galaxy -- imperceptibly -- as the years unfold.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/NGC6744.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19104" title="NGC6744" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/NGC6744-600x817.jpg" alt="NGC 6744: the Milky Way's &quot;twin&quot;" width="600" height="817" /></a> <p>Image credit: Josch Hambsch's CCD Imaging, additional processing by me.</p> </div> <p>The entire Solar System speeds through the galaxy, traveling <strong>7 billion kilometers</strong> each year in our Sun's journey through the galaxy's disk. But life goes on in the galaxy over that time, as gas clouds contract, forming new stars all the time.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/Inside-the-Eagle-Nebula.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19105" title="Inside-the-Eagle-Nebula" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/Inside-the-Eagle-Nebula-600x449.jpg" alt="Inside the Eagle Nebula" width="600" height="449" /></a> <p>Image credit: T. A. Rector &amp; B. A. Wolpa, NOAO, AURA.</p> </div> <p>Each year, <del>around a <strong>million</strong> new stars</del> about <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.3672">a Solar Mass's worth</a> of stars (reference here) form in the galaxy, mostly in star forming regions like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Nebula">Eagle Nebula</a>, above. At the same time, stars in our galaxy <a href="http://www.physics.uc.edu/~hanson/ASTRO/LECTURENOTES/W07/Death/Page1.html">burn out and die</a>, but not quite at the same rate.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/NebulaMosaic.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19106" title="NebulaMosaic" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/NebulaMosaic-600x666.jpg" alt="109 Planetary Nebulae" width="600" height="666" /></a> <p>Image credit: <a href="http://astrojan.ini.hu/">http://astrojan.ini.hu/</a>, retrieved from Margaret Hanson, U. of Cincinnati.</p> </div> <p>Stars die spectacularly throughout the galaxy, but the vast majority of stars we form have a lifetime that's far greater than the present age of the Universe. As a result -- even optimistically -- only <em>dozens</em> of stars die each millenium in our Milky Way, meaning that each year that passes marks an extra new star or so in <strong>every galaxy</strong> in the Universe.</p> <p>And those galaxies, themselves, are different on this day than they were even a year ago.</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/201103_VirgoGCM_andreo.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19107" title="201103_VirgoGCM_andreo" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/201103_VirgoGCM_andreo-600x383.jpg" alt="The Virgo Cluster of galaxies" width="600" height="383" /></a> <p>Image credit: Rogelio Bernal Andreo of Deep Sky Colors.</p> </div> <p>The nearest large cluster of galaxies -- the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_Cluster">Virgo Cluster</a>, above -- has around 1,600 large, Milky Way-sized (or larger) galaxies in it, and lives just 53 million light years away. It's also speeding away from us at over 1,200 kilometers <em>per second</em>, meaning that each year that goes by sees that entire cluster wind up another <strong>40 billion kilometers</strong> farther away from us.</p> <p>In fact, if you lived to be 229, you would find this cluster an extra <em>light year</em> distant from us than when you were born. But that's for the <em>closest</em> cluster of galaxies to us; what about the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDFy-38135539">farthest galaxy</a> we've ever discovered?</p> <div style="width: 610px;display:block;margin:0 auto;"><a href="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/UDFy-38135539.jpeg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-19108" title="UDFy-38135539" src="/files/startswithabang/files/2012/08/UDFy-38135539-600x375.jpg" alt="Farthest galaxy ever at z=8.6" width="600" height="375" /></a> <p>Image credit: NASA, ESA, G. Illingworth and the HUDF09 Team.</p> </div> <p>The light from this galaxy -- found in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra-Deep_Field">Hubble Ultra Deep Field</a> -- took 13.1 billion years, or <strong>96%</strong> of the age of the Universe, to reach us. But the Universe is expanding so quickly that each year that passes sees this galaxy <a href="http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/doppler.htm">more than two extra light years</a> distant from us! Even if we launched a spaceship today at 99.999999999%+ the speed of light at this galaxy, it would never reach it. As each year passes, maybe 20 or so galaxies <em>newly</em> suffer this fate: that they become unreachable, <em>even in theory</em>, from our place in the Universe.</p> <p>So happy birthday to me and everyone who shares another year on the planet with me, and may the Universe continue to amaze and educate us all.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/startswithabang" lang="" about="/startswithabang" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">esiegel</a></span> <span>Fri, 08/03/2012 - 06:24</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/astronomy-0" hreflang="en">Astronomy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/stars" hreflang="en">Stars</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/birthday" hreflang="en">birthday</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/distance" hreflang="en">Distance</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/earth" hreflang="en">Earth</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/expansion" hreflang="en">expansion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/redshift" hreflang="en">redshift</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/space-0" hreflang="en">space</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/star-formation" hreflang="en">star formation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/stellar-death" hreflang="en">stellar death</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/universe" hreflang="en">universe</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/year" hreflang="en">year</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/stars" hreflang="en">Stars</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511876" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1343992178"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy birthday! If only more stars like YOU were born on our Earth... at least one a decade please?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511876&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="S6iYjFeQItygai8Yq9nYfWutNmkevbYLI15gSq7F6xA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Adam (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511876">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511877" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1343996726"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy Birthday!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511877&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7zI4Gs836gl6NprZBoHt3APyXIrS1noA8Fj155Dnh20"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chelle (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511877">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511878" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1343999738"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy B-day Ethan and all the best. Keep up the good work and live long and prosper! ;)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511878&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="QRQp3CLQVQdlzBTnd3UYfuoZjRBZ0OtWakQGumUwoZ8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Sinisa Lazarek (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511878">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511879" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344001739"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What can I say - You made many things much more understandable. And much more interesting for a layman. Thank You and keep up a good work. </p> <p>Best regards.</p> <p>PS Strange thing: 4 comments and another one from Poland :-) .</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511879&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iFw51RlaZ3EyRD4z2yVj2-YvjnJ-rvQad6Gfo-8mI2E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Marian Maroszek (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511879">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511880" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344002608"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"...each year that passes sees this galaxy more than two extra light years distant from us!"</p> <p>Does this mean that this galaxy is receding from us at twice the speed of light? If so, then how can we see it?</p> <p>Did I miss something here?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511880&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZPVTFYP1woLzy9oB9zD6r4f5vzmAdEVW_77qaR0lsug"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jockaira (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511880">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511881" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344011010"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy birthday! I hope it is a wonderful occasion.<br /> :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511881&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wZpQEwKtrMbR8YgtCA3bCBK6YnsivsVbCQ0CxQcLRPc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chelsea (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511881">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511882" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344014755"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy birthday. And I'm as mystified as Jockaira (and an RAH fan)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511882&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uCebNDGV8qyN3YjpNYTmLubvapoH1uTL2eqPcy1hU-s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">John McC (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511882">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511883" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344022334"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I agree Jockaira,<br /> I must have missed something too.<br /> That implies that both our galaxy and this distant galaxy are relatively, each moving away from each other at faster than the speed of light.<br /> Could someone please enlighten me?<br /> Nice reflective blog though!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511883&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LQvMWV19BXYjzxUiPZ-6559UZGLOEd207y7nF1cNvPs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Canoath (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511883">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511884" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344040144"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving; revolving at 900 miles an hour." - M. Python<br /> Here's to one more time around for all of us!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511884&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VAIuS6Ww852VOnlm38eqt1ccyrm1L0p4zFL3HTzL5wU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">SnoreFoot (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511884">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511885" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344046763"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Many more happy returns of the day.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511885&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="14sppC0irOnZp3jxQoFGK__-YgZDLZC66Ng5b3DPtNI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Sathish (not verified)</span> on 03 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511885">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511886" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344059412"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy birthday, and best wishes for your next trip with the Earth around the sun!</p> <p>(Aren't our galaxy and this distant galaxy apparently receding from each other at above the speed of light because the movement in part results from the distance between them increasing with the universal expansion of space? I know objects can't exceed the speed of light, but I believe the universe as a whole is exempt.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511886&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="YyIC9fsZyFTqhvfoKXRyzgDHr600JyTQ0F0pS4S6XZs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Parhelion (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511886">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511887" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344063454"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy birthday, Ethan, and thank you for giving us this wonderful blog!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511887&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="IgJlmC0BACHzPeSAbEdZSmkDvCEtDcEIuChWskVzg5E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Darcy Vieira (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511887">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511888" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344082257"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy birthday from this side of the planet.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511888&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-tr8W9ZXz_U_kdk2_JFyyPsv60cUDQzB7GIoDkuOaTM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">XVI (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511888">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511889" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344083629"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>“…each year that passes sees this galaxy more than two extra light years distant from us!”</p> <p>Does this mean that this galaxy is receding from us at twice the speed of light? If so, then how can we see it?</p></blockquote> <p>I guess there was a time that those galaxies weren't moving so fast away, and the light that was emitted in our direction during that pre-faster-than-c-time is what we are observing now.</p> <p>btw theoretically we could visit those Deep Field clusters in 25 <i>human</i> years, when we are onboard of a spaceship that constantly accelerates with 1G, due to time dilation. But sadly there seems to be that too weird expansion.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511889&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fIZ9uw7up6QbZ6-EJjwXgiTUkSr_ENv8bYvevmnmGEk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">chelle (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511889">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511890" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344085002"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>"If so, then how can we see it?"</i></p> <p>An interesting phenomenon would be, if what I suggested in my previous comment is correct, that there will come a time that clusters start to disappear before our own eyes, zap, zap, zap, …</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511890&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1iHOnP1fL32Tblnkhoe1ej5_lI1l7nu_FFeQDkEDqqw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chelle (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511890">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511891" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344087497"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy Birthday Ethan! Hope you blew out all the candles on the cake and wished many more years of writing this wonderfully inspiring blog!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511891&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="nFYJx-7rRe60nweIEXEPqAJNiTB366dIDK4rOfjbFAI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Tihomir (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511891">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511892" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344104047"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"each year that passes marks an extra million-or-so stars in every galaxy in the Universe."</p> <p>But the Milky Way galaxy is 13.2 billion years old and only has 300 billion stars (i.e. 3 x 10^11 stars) 1.3 x 10^10 years x 10^6 stars /year = 1.3 x 10^16 stars. I assume there is a reason for this discrepancy.</p> <p>This is a pretty impressive claim.<br /> So the higher the z (i.e. redshift of a galaxy) the lower the number of stars in the galaxy.<br /> Please point me to a reference.<br /> Or... what am I misunderstanding?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511892&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="TT55MVKR1OozB2sc1sn1JnFxPLQWYqvc4t2_Zd9k2dU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">OKThen (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511892">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511893" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344107086"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Even if we launched a spaceship today at 99.999999999%+ the speed of light at this galaxy, it would never reach it. (the farthest galaxy we’ve ever discovered)."</p> <p>But the highest energy cosmic rays do not travel across the universe at a constant velocity. . they accelerate continuously (somehow) in their journey across the universe. Otherwise, they wouldn't exceed the GZK limit.</p> <p>Likewise, a spacecraft with low initial velocity that is continuously accelerated by several g's can reach a more distant galaxy than one with an initial (and constant) velocity equal to "99.999999999%+ the speed of light ". As well an initial velocity equal to "99.999999999%+ the speed of light " implies an almost infinite instantaneous acceleration that would kill a human.</p> <p> Well anyway this is how my spaceship is designed. Still, perhaps I misunderstand something? Let me know.</p> <p>At any rate, you're still young Ethan. With proper accelleration you still can reach that most distant galaxy before your last birthday. Time dilation due to continuous gravitational accelleration of several g's is the ticket.</p> <p>So happy birthday, live long as you enjoy and travel the universe.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511893&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8NavfCfSPJtSdWtBHKGTqIrUAia05sIOTNxqYorS9Ho"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">OKThen (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511893">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511894" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344124074"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy birthday Ethan. :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511894&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2v9ijlxx96Cz884y6NEHtv_YYSARnM_nIToklsU7kQQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">MadScientist (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511894">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511895" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344124136"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>From the pov of a photon, no time passes between the emissionand absorption. Therefore the universe was a set size. From our pov, the universe got bigger and therefore the ohoton got stretched to fit the same number of 'beats' in this longer path.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511895&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RdNqD1BfpIbnrLOa_ttOW-70qV8BkGPvEQ5ugFDkzus"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wow (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511895">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511896" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344128813"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thaks to Chelle for explaining Ethan's apparently impossible statement. This shows the value of determining exactly which space-time frame is being considered.</p> <p>What I missed was that the light by which we see "this galaxy" has been in transit for billions of years and the actual motions of "this galaxy" are not in the same space-time frame as the light or our non-existant perceptions of "this galaxy".</p> <p>Belatedly, I wish Ethan and everyone else here a Happy Birthday in whatever space-time frame it occurs.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511896&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ih98pPr39bjtVvR3TYqeSM-ltekYXyh6MEhoz-1nCcw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jockaira (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511896">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511897" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344132612"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy Birthday, Ethan!!!</p> <p>I know, I missed the date, but, is it yet OK, isn't? ;-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511897&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZWQ-hbN22mRHR0rJPVRZmnhTa3j1wMUDfQfhcHNNTHE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">ChicoPinto (not verified)</span> on 04 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511897">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511898" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344141490"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Jockaira,</p> <p>Thanks for giving me some credit, but I don't know if my suggestion is correct, because there would be also an other odd thing, and that is the fact that the speed of gravitational waves is the same as the speed of light, so at a certain point Stars would start to be disconnected, because they do not only shines, they also pull .... how is this keeping it all together, are them waves being stretched, like how Wow says that <i>"the photon got stretched"</i>? Perhaps this is something that Ethan could explain in more detail in an extra topic.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511898&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kSgbkOP8HkYdykvzwZkMfXboPDA35FUZTlhSyG8xa0U"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">chelle (not verified)</span> on 05 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511898">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511899" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344206053"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You are giving us an excellent thing to read. Keep on with it, I enjoy reading it a lot.... Happy birthday.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511899&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tj95M7SURxnQFpavYq3VsojE6JO9w2m-oNXDjHHt_m4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Airaptor (not verified)</span> on 05 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511899">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511900" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1344232593"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy Birthday!!! I always enjoy seeing the photos that catch your learned eye.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511900&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Cm_Rh9UwejAL1nUxy2Plq4tjyGUTb8eiHZ8ULsiAJVc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris (not verified)</span> on 06 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511900">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511901" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1345171570"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Happy B'day Ethan.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511901&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lEmOIG_KFUrZeJOARZZNFLxWjF0JY49cbtTNwqQN2as"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zama (not verified)</span> on 16 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511901">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="33" id="comment-1511902" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1345215191"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>OKThen, my mistake on the earlier statement on the galaxy's star formation rate. I mis-read a paper a while ago when they talked about a star formation rate as being about an Msun per year as being about a million suns, rather than being about one solar mass per year.</p> <p>This has been fixed, and check back later today for a new post elaborating on it (with links).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511902&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Vpbq8vtdGxgahI6w2HyuVZtwRqDPd7OG7V2fTesQWvE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/startswithabang" lang="" about="/startswithabang" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">esiegel</a> on 17 Aug 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511902">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/startswithabang"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/startswithabang" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/pastey-120x120_0.jpg?itok=sjrB9UJU" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user esiegel" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511903" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1347336123"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>تصاویر بسیار عالی است.واقعا شگفت انگیز و لذت بخشه.<br /> The photoes are very wondeful.thank you</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511903&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SpJFmM47EKR-01eV9R9bNRetW-dfVgjekcWOlpCYN6Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">ramin (not verified)</span> on 11 Sep 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511903">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511904" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1386245908"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Great post. I came across this while searching for images of the sun from the space station. Surprisingly there are very few, and in the ones I can find the sun appears smaller than I imaged, seeing as its huge. Any thoughts?</p> <p>Thanks for the post.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511904&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pMNBoWZryBcLUjsRNLPVOKelIUC0rV25rZAqRJ_Czx8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Andy (not verified)</span> on 05 Dec 2013 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/10547/feed#comment-1511904">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/startswithabang/2012/08/03/another-trip-around-the-sun%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 10:24:22 +0000 esiegel 35462 at https://scienceblogs.com