atmoz https://scienceblogs.com/ en Hobbes again, and 400 ppm CO2 https://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2010/03/30/hobbes-again-and-400-ppm-co2 <span>Hobbes again, and 400 ppm CO2</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I haven't been <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2008/05/in_praise_of_hobbes.php">nice to Hobbes</a> for a bit, so:</p> <blockquote><p>When God speaketh to man, it must be either immediately or by mediation of another man, to whom He had formerly spoken by Himself immediately. How God speaketh to a man immediately may be understood by those well enough to whom He hath so spoken; but how the same should be understood by another is hard, if not impossible, to know. For if a man pretend to me that God hath spoken to him supernaturally, and immediately, and I make doubt of it, I cannot easily perceive what argument he can produce to oblige me to believe it.</p></blockquote> <p>There. Isn't that wonderful? It so beautifully turns around the "You say God told you that but I think you're a fraud" into "I really can't see how you could convince me of that". There is more, of course. [[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_%28book%29">Leviathan (book)</a>]] provides an intro, and as it happens I wrote it (or almost all of it) and it has survived remarkably well. The section <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_%28book%29#Part_III:_Of_a_Christian_Common-wealth">Of a Christian Common-wealth</a> is good fun: here Hobbes tries to make a case for which books of the Bible you can reliably believe in, but (much like Popper on rationalism) is eventually obliged (oh dear, he really didn't want to go that way :-) to provide an external authority to decide which books can be trusted: the Civil Power in his case, of course.</p> <p>Ah, and now of course I've remembered what I <i>actually</i> intended to write about: <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Atmoz/~3/IGbNJcfd2Do/">Atmoz's 400 ppm CO2 challenge</a>! Off you go; I haven't made my mind up yet.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/stoat" lang="" about="/author/stoat" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stoat</a></span> <span>Tue, 03/30/2010 - 11:55</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/books" hreflang="en">Books</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/climate-fun" hreflang="en">climate fun</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/politics" hreflang="en">Politics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/atmoz" hreflang="en">atmoz</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/co2" hreflang="en">CO2</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/hobbes" hreflang="en">Hobbes</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/leviathan" hreflang="en">Leviathan</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1765142" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1269987280"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>While Rome burns, Atmoz fiddles. Please allow me to invite you, William, and all others who see the necessity of energy transformation - and I include John Mashey, David B. Benson, Dano, Hank Roberts and Eli Rabbet in this group - to participate in Replacing Fossil Fuel. Enough dancing. It's time to act. Individually we tilt at windmills. People together can accomplish great things.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1765142&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Xia7T2dlu8Mqe_5rVSF5jDFjlzBlSQshKy9y44jKUGI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Paul Kelly (not verified)</span> on 30 Mar 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12030/feed#comment-1765142">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1765143" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1270184818"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>&gt;"Off you go; I haven't made my mind up yet."</p> <p>Why not? as I wrote over there:<br /> There is probably only about 15 reasonable guesses so if the prize goes to the first to guess the correct month it looks like for this competition it may be best to get your guess in quick.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1765143&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JpePOPbKRAiXb864qK_3akBLyFHxjb6yDP-bbJCqFT8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">crandles (not verified)</span> on 02 Apr 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12030/feed#comment-1765143">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/stoat/2010/03/30/hobbes-again-and-400-ppm-co2%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:55:39 +0000 stoat 52993 at https://scienceblogs.com