experimental evolution https://scienceblogs.com/ en Cooperation and Experimental Evolution https://scienceblogs.com/oscillator/2010/01/24/cooperation-and-experimental-e <span>Cooperation and Experimental Evolution</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/cooperation/">Cooperation</a> and altruism are widespread in biology, from <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/292/5516/504">molecules</a> and genes working together in a cell, to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ToKb8ZQlgJoC&amp;pg=PA107&amp;lpg=PA107&amp;dq=cooperation+in+biofilm&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=sqQ9jH3Mjs&amp;sig=mlqxn7k1YQt5_Y2_8GI-wwBqm4w&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=4U5cS5-iL8_j8QaQl-n-BA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=5&amp;ved=0CCMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&amp;q=cooperation%20in%20biofilm&amp;f=false">bacterial communities</a> that require coordinated behavior to survive in a tough environment, to <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/cognitivedaily/2009/09/does_rewarding_altruism_squelc.php">human</a> relationships and societies. Our human cultural perspective (perhaps even more specifically our American cultural perspective, focused as it is on individuality, free markets, and the American Dream), however, treats cooperation as an outright anomaly that has to be <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/314/5805/1560/DC1">explained</a> away by science (or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere_Christianity">often</a>, <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/questionofgod/nineconv/morallaw.html">religion</a>). If natural selection is about the "survival of the fittest" how can a selfless gene be rewarded evolutionarily, surviving to the next generation? If evolution is about individuals locked in a battle for resources, why would anyone share with a friend?</p> <p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/oscillator/Soybean-root-nodules.jpg"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/oscillator/wp-content/blogs.dir/343/files/2012/04/i-64e50e3d07fc39dfbd42c6744b010e08-Soybean-root-nodules-thumb-250x174-39895.jpg" alt="i-64e50e3d07fc39dfbd42c6744b010e08-Soybean-root-nodules-thumb-250x174-39895.jpg" /></a>Many experiments have shown that cooperation may actually not be so anomalous, and in fact may be a driving force for evolutionary change and diversity. Using <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_evolution">experimental evolution</a>, a synthetic approach to evolutionary theory where researchers try to observe evolutionary changes in controlled populations in the lab, several groups have shown that symbiotic, cooperative, and altruistic behaviors can rapidly evolve in many different situations. A recent <a href="http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1000280">paper</a> from PLoS Biology, "Experimental Evolution of a Plant Pathogen into a Legume Symbiont" (ht <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2010/01/new_and_exciting_in_plos_biolo_41.php">Coturnix</a>!) applied this kind of synthetic approach to plant/bacteria cooperation (in depth paper synopsis <a href="http://www.plosbiology.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1000279">here</a>). Many plants and bacteria have evolved a complex mutualistic relationship, where the plants will protect the bacteria from the harsh soil environment and the bacteria will provide crucial nutrients to the plant. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizobia"><em>Rhizobia</em></a> are species of bacteria that invade the root tissue of legume plants and form small nodules where the bacteria grow and provide nitrogen that the host plant needs to grow. These species have coevolved to this complex mutualistic relationship over millions of years, but the authors found that after only a few generations pathogenic bacteria developed many of the behaviors required for the root nodule symbiosis, with many implications for evolutionary theory. From the paper's conclusion: </p> <blockquote><p>Our results show that adaptive genomic changes indeed allow effective dissemination of symbiotic traits over large phylogenetic and ecological distances. The fact that a single gene played a major role in the shift from extracellular pathogenesis to endosymbiosis reinforces previous reports that global regulators are preferred targets for evolution and supports fluid boundaries between parasitism and mutualism.</p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/oscillator/thaxterdrawing.gif"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/oscillator/wp-content/blogs.dir/343/files/2012/04/i-26b1efc912ab206de6d645b1ba13704c-thaxterdrawing-thumb-250x414-39905.gif" alt="i-26b1efc912ab206de6d645b1ba13704c-thaxterdrawing-thumb-250x414-39905.gif" /></a>Other researchers have found similar results in very different model systems. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myxobacteria">Myxobacteria</a> are single-celled organisms that live in large populations. When food is scarce, the bacteria activate a complex cascade of events where the population transforms itself from slime to a complicated fruiting body, with individuals performing highly specialized behaviors, including a huge number of individuals sacrificing themselves to provide food for the remaining cells, the ultimate altruistic behavior. Genetic mutations in a population of myxobacteria will lead to "cheater" cells that won't go through the same changes when they are on their own and starve, but will free-ride on altruistic neighbors in a mixed population with the wild type strain. A 2006 <a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v441/n7091/full/nature04677.html">paper</a> in <em>Nature</em>, "Evolution of an Obligate Social Cheater to a Superior Cooperator", started with this "obligate cheater strain" and allowed it to compete against the wild type in a laboratory evolution setup. They found that a single mutation in a gene that had previously not been identified as important for this process was able to turn the cheater strain not only into a cooperator, but into a cooperator that was able to outcompete all the ancestral strains. Scientists don't fully understand the processes that underly many of these cooperative interactions, but what is clear is that the evolution of these behaviors seems to be faster and more likely to spontaneously emerge than many people think. </p> <p>There is a huge diversity of cooperative relationships in nature that expand the ability of living things to inhabit all ecological niches, but symbiosis has an even more central role in the evolution of life on earth. It is now widely accepted that complex eukaryotic cells (cells with a nucleus, like our own) evolved as the result of symbiosis between different prokaryotic (no nucleus, like bacteria). Organelles inside eukaryotic cells that provide energy, like chloroplasts in photosynthetic organisms and mitochondria in almost every eukaryotic cell, often have their own genetic material, left over from the time when they were free-living organisms. When <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Margulis">Lynn Margulis</a> proposed this serial <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endosymbiotic_theory">endosymbiotic theory </a>of eukaryotic evolution in the 1960's (based on theories of Russian botanists in the late 1800's and early 1900's) she was ridiculed by the biological establishment. The dogma at the time held not only that evolution must proceed through the accumulation of only small incremental changes, but also that symbiosis was a weird thing that only a few species of fungi did, not important stuff to molecular biologists. To the scientists, the notion that nature was cruel, that cooperation <em>shouldn't</em> exist was the norm, and the idea that evolution could be driven by cooperation at such a large scale was unthinkable. Margulis persevered, and eventually everyone realized that she was right all along. Decades later however, the marginal, "weird" status of cooperation in the biological literature remains, and Margulis <a href="http://www.jstor.org/pss/1311435">warns</a> that we should be careful with the words we use when discussing it, that we shouldn't color our understanding of reciprocal biological relationships with how we think about economics, politics, and other human constructions. Other synthetic biology experiments will perhaps further show that cooperation may be more "natural" than science currently allows it to be.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/cagapakis" lang="" about="/author/cagapakis" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">cagapakis</a></span> <span>Sun, 01/24/2010 - 06:41</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/altruism" hreflang="en">altruism</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bioethics" hreflang="en">Bioethics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cooperation" hreflang="en">Cooperation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/culture" hreflang="en">Culture</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/evolution" hreflang="en">evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/papers" hreflang="en">papers</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/research" hreflang="en">Research</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/symbiosis" hreflang="en">symbiosis</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/experimental-evolution" hreflang="en">experimental evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/synthetic-biology" hreflang="en">synthetic biology</a></div> </div> </div> <section> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/oscillator/2010/01/24/cooperation-and-experimental-e%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:41:54 +0000 cagapakis 146835 at https://scienceblogs.com The arc of evolutionary genetics is long https://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2009/10/20/the-arc-of-evolutionary-geneti <span>The arc of evolutionary genetics is long</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Evolutionary ideas have been around a long time, at least since the Greeks, and likely longer. I accept the <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200511u/paul-bloom">arguments of researchers</a> who suggest that humans are predisposed to Creationist thinking; after all, cross-cultural data shows the dominance of this model before the rise of modern evolutionary biology. But this does not mean that the possibility of evolution would be totally mystifying to the human race before Charles Darwin's time. After all, it may be that humans as a species have a predisposition toward theism as well, and yet all complex societies produce atheistic movements as counter-cultures, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicureanism">Epicureans</a>* among the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolutionary_thought#Greeks">Greeks</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carvaka">Carvaka</a> among the Indians and the <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=PtY5LBMhR1EC&amp;pg=PA80&amp;lpg=PA80&amp;dq=dahrites&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=FXJgRey3rs&amp;sig=NPPkHeRlanfCQ6R5LhwCqT96VcQ&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=Vn_dSs-jDpOgsgO1oPzjDw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CAgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false">Dahrites</a> among the Muslims.</p> <p>Rather, what made Charles Darwin so important was the theoretical heft he brought to the idea of evolution, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestiges_of_the_Natural_History_of_Creation">which was in the air</a> at the time. In the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0226684644/geneexpressio-20/">early 20th century</a> Darwin's verbal insights were given more formal structure by theoreticians such as R. A. Fisher and Sewall Wright. These population geneticists aimed to turn the helter skelter and descriptive clarity of evolutionary biology into a more predictive science through their mathematical frameworks. But despite the heroic efforts of biologists such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._B._Ford">E. B. Ford</a> testing these theoretical predictions before the molecular genetic era was often not feasible. In the age of genomics this is changing, as large data sets can now be viewed with an aim toward extracting out theoretical generality, or violations from expected generality.</p> <p>But another advance, aided by molecular techniques, is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_evolution">experimental evolution</a>. The most prominent practitioner today of this field is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lenski">Richard Lenski</a>, and he is co-author on a new paper which looks at the rate of evolution over time in <i>E. coli</i>. <a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nature08480.html">Genome evolution and adaptation in a long-term experiment with Escherichia coli</a>:</p> <!--more--><blockquote>The relationship between rates of genomic evolution and organismal adaptation remains uncertain, despite considerable interest. The feasibility of obtaining genome sequences from experimentally evolving populations offers the opportunity to investigate this relationship with new precision. Here we sequence genomes sampled through 40,000 generations from a laboratory population of Escherichia coli. Although adaptation decelerated sharply, genomic evolution was nearly constant for 20,000 generations. Such clock-like regularity is usually viewed as the signature of neutral evolution, but several lines of evidence indicate that almost all of these mutations were beneficial. <b>This same population later evolved an elevated mutation rate and accumulated hundreds of additional mutations dominated by a neutral signature. Thus, the coupling between genomic and adaptive evolution is complex and can be counterintuitive even in a constant environment.</b> In particular, beneficial substitutions were surprisingly uniform over time, whereas neutral substitutions were highly variable</blockquote> <p>The experiment involved a line from the ancestral colony which was maintained for approximately 15 years. The use of the term "counterintuitive" in some ways is a bit deceptive; would the person off the street find the results counterintuitive? I doubt it. Rather, intuitions here are actually framed by deductions one makes from theoretical assumptions about the nature of molecular evolution and the genomic impact of natural selection. For example, we expect that <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2007/02/the_genetics_of_adaptation_mut.php">adaptation should converge upon an optimum and exhibit deceleration.</a> Or that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_theory_of_molecular_evolution">the rate of substitution should equal the rate of mutation</a>.</p> <p>Figure 2 illustrates the gist of the results: </p> <form mt:asset-id="21022" class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/wp-content/blogs.dir/461/files/2012/04/i-ae214cb97600225cc34b49d35a3ca14b-figure2lenski.png" alt="i-ae214cb97600225cc34b49d35a3ca14b-figure2lenski.png" /></form> <p>The "fitness" lines up with our expectations. When you have a population which is switched to a new environment you expect that it will adapt as best as it can quickly, and over time "fine-tune" those adaptations and reach some sort of equilibrium. On the other hand, it looks as if two "neutral" equilibriums were at work (see inset), one before the emergence of a hypermutant strain, and one after. Remember that to a great extent evolutionary change should be proportional to mutation rate on the molecular level if most molecular change is not subject to selection pressure. A simple explanation for what's going on above is that only a small fraction of genetic changes are beneficial, and so neutral evolution was predominant. The relative strength of adaptive evolution in the early stages would have been of marginal significance when set next to dominance of neutral effects, so its removal would not have been noticeable.</p> <p>The authors reject this simple model for four reasons:</p> <p>- All 26 point mutations they found in coding regions were non-synonymous before the emergence of hypermutability. That means that they actually effect changes in amino acid and so function. This is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_code#RNA_codon_table">very unlikely</a>, so the inference must be that functional changes are driving this evolution.</p> <p>- There were 12 total lines, though they only focused on one in this paper. But, neutral evolution would have distributed mutations randomly across genes, and so there shouldn't be much concordance across the lineages. In fact, there was a great deal of concordance, as the same genes were targets of mutation repeatedly across experimental populations. This parallelism is a strong indication that selection was targeting specific functional regions for specific traits.</p> <p>- In a situation where neutrality is dominant there should be many lines where the frequencies of the mutants are intermediate as they "random-walk" up and down the range of potential frequencies. But this was not so. Rather, there was a trend toward fixation. Once a selectively favored mutant <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2006/10/you_only_go_extinct_once.php">avoids extinction</a> its probability of sweeping to fixation is rather high. In contrast, a neutral allele which is extant at frequency ~0.25 in a particular generation still has a 75% chance of going extinct.</p> <p>- The new mutations do seem to confer fitness advantages vis-a-vis the ancestral strain. Obviously if a mutation is neutral it shouldn't confer fitness advantages.</p> <p>One explanation they have for the relatively constant rate of the emergence of mutational variants is that the initial mutants are of large effect, and have negative pleiotropic effects. In other words, in a new environmental circumstance populations look for "good enough solutions," or kluges, which introduce deleterious trade-offs. There's still plenty of room for adaptive improvement and later mutations are driven to fixation in large part as solutions to the problems introduced by the earlier mutation. Additionally:</p> <blockquote><p>Clonal interference occurs in asexual organisms when sub-lineages with beneficial mutations are driven extinct by competition with other sub-lineages bearing mutations that are even more beneficial and this process might contribute to the relatively constant rate of genomic change. In particular, the most beneficial mutations should dominate the early phase of evolution for large populations in a new environment26, but there are more potential mutations that confer small advantages than large ones. Thus, the supply of contending beneficial mutations may increase enough to sustain a uniform rate of overall genomic change.</p></blockquote> <p>At some point the dynamics shift in a discontinuous manner, as a hypermutable lineage emerges at 40,000 generations. Whereas before all 26 of the mutations in coding regions were synonymous before hypermutability, only 83 of 599 were after. This suggests that the basal mutation rate has increased and neutral dynamics have become more powerful; in other words, the background noise has been cranked up considerably. They estimate that the point mutation rate increased about 70-fold after the emergence of the mutator phenotype, almost two orders of magnitude!</p> <p>Here's their conclusion:</p> <blockquote><p>Genome re-sequencing in the context of experimental evolution provides new opportunities for quantifying evolutionary dynamics. We observed discordance between the rates of genomic change and fitness improvement during a 20-year experiment with E. coli in two respects. First, mutations accumulated at a near-constant rate even as fitness gains decelerated over the first 20,000 generations. Second, the rate of genomic evolution accelerated markedly when a mutator lineage became established later. The fluid and complex coupling observed between the rates of genomic evolution and adaptation even in this simple system cautions against categorical interpretations about rates of genomic evolution in nature without specific knowledge of molecular and population-genetic processes. Our results also call attention to new opportunities for population-genetic models to explore the longterm dynamic coupling between genome evolution and adaptation, including the effects of clonal interference, compensatory adaptation, and changing mutation rates.</p></blockquote> <p><b>Citation:</b> Nature, Genome evolution and adaptation in a long-term experiment with Escherichia coli, 18 October 2009, doi:10.1038/nature08480.</p> <p>* I am aware that Epicureans accepted gods as Buddhists accepted gods, but on a philosophical level these were not supernatural gods, but rather reducible down to atomic units just as man was.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/razib" lang="" about="/author/razib" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">razib</a></span> <span>Tue, 10/20/2009 - 04:09</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/evolution" hreflang="en">evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/genetics" hreflang="en">genetics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/evolutionary-genetics" hreflang="en">evolutionary genetics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/experimental-evolution" hreflang="en">experimental evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/lenski" hreflang="en">Lenski</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/evolution" hreflang="en">evolution</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167352" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256026668"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"In contrast, a neutral allele which is extant at frequency ~0.25 in a particular generation still has a 75% chance of going extinct."</p> <p>Only true in simplistic models. Neutral and even deleterious alleles become fixed all the time due to linkage disequilibrium, drift, low or absent recombination (think Y chromosome), epistasis, and cellular quirks like biased gene conversion. That last one has been the bugaboo in a lot of so-called positively selected SNPs in the human genome.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167352&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1qm3VNBaS8nvUN7hr_8ErMm-Y97urrz2CrPpsCLLQCY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">miko (not verified)</span> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167352">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167353" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256030291"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Great posting. My head's spinning. Plus: good lord, people do experiments that take 20 years to complete? Some people really have patience. </p> <p>Hey, where did that kind of patience come from? How'd we evolve it? What was selected for? And by what? Or are scientists who run experiments like this just the expression of some kind of spandrel effect?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167353&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bBUc1w8wxF7k_7kPI3LqNPtEFowTT1ystEuqL1T-aqU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://raysawhill.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ray Sawhill (not verified)</a> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167353">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167354" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256040478"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hmm, Paul Bloom's idea just boils down to "people see faces everywhere". I'd hesitate to call "creationism" a predisposition, any more than people are predisposed, per se, to believe in fairies -- it's a more general attribute.</p> <p>Second, Darwin's theory was extremely weak. What he brought was systematic data. That's why his work was scientifically dismissed by the end of the 19th century -- it was only with the development of a real theory of selection after the rediscovery of Mendel and the Drosophila work that Darwin's "idea" and data could be considered theoretically rigorous.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167354&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tPLkp9iZdXIYAzvplGpZn5ZjpaAuafhJhWPZfTmEOO0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">frog (not verified)</span> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167354">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167355" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256042408"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This intrigues me.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167355&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="swflJZdKvYsp8WuC2hsvMN_1zMvAtOLUDr0DgW-j7Bw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Josh (not verified)</span> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167355">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167356" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256045152"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Upon reading more, it'd be interesting to try to fit the polymorphism data from these experiments to the allele frequency spectrum expected under infinite sites mutation, selection and drift.</p> <p>That could be really informative, because we use the spectrum to estimate the strength of selection regularly.</p> <p>Hrm...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167356&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="g3wcoAEVOjEqvylzsNOUk9bHBLqqSylFLKVwaa-7IGY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Josh (not verified)</span> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167356">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167357" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256051960"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i> it was only with the development of a real theory of selection after the rediscovery of Mendel and the Drosophila work that Darwin's "idea" and data could be considered theoretically rigorous.</i></p> <p>you mean theory of inheritance right?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167357&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zjB7WHXtM0x4zWAadBJMShoLVXiprKE_ZEz6nDchEho"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">razib (not verified)</a> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167357">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167358" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256063902"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Only true in simplistic models. Neutral and even deleterious alleles become fixed all the time due to linkage disequilibrium, drift, low or absent recombination (think Y chromosome), epistasis, and cellular quirks like biased gene conversion. That last one has been the bugaboo in a lot of so-called positively selected SNPs in the human genome.</i></p> <p>do you think that these phenomenon are ubiquitous that one should discard he use of toy examples like the one i did above at this point? you don't need to elaborate in detail, i'm aware you know this stuff, so i'm curious about your opinion in terms of didactic utility ;-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167358&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EDBa9lGvJKQyeWF6ZHwunXzb6EGSN0RXsECfNvJXzI4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/gnxp" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">razib (not verified)</a> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167358">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167359" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256072403"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Josh</p> <p>Well, my intuition about what the SFS would look like under these conditions is completely confused. As I understand it, each culture bottlenecks every 24 hours (growth, inoculation of new medium, repeat), and the different "strains" are actually independent replicates. So, I think it would entail modeling the demography separately for each strain, taking a separate "polymorphism sample" from each replicate and then playing around with a few SFS tools for each replicate. I think the "Ne" you'd estimate from such populations would be pretty low, unless the experiment was working on a well-attended chemostat that was just cranking 24/7.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167359&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PpdxywQPNeNxtjTNOvOMPUzqRRrbzurD7rX-ute0des"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">J.J.E. (not verified)</span> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167359">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167360" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256073386"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>JJE,</p> <p>Ah I didn't realize that they did it like that.</p> <p>Hrm, that is a pretty extreme scenario though---I wonder if it is really representative of the tempo of genomic evolution?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167360&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="DPgaHKJBwdiTymM-vCx83QrhuI9ZS9U5Zah5T64B-DY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Josh (not verified)</span> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167360">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167361" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256075347"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, this calls for either an RTFP by me or bugging my experimental evolution friend. But my friend's long-term experiments invariably involved some bottle-necking as a purely practical issue. While Lenski is pretty sharp, I'm not sure he was anticipating this 20 years ago. But I should look it up anyway. This paper would make a good journal club.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167361&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aAqwfuvbmuvRDOVlq7zWAl87hrhyKZ7md9tj9gLLRLc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">J.J.E. (not verified)</span> on 20 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167361">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167362" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256104965"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I recall this recent paper that estimated the magnitude of clonal interference in E coli using two parallel pops very different in size. Perhaps Razib's paper cited it. It actually estimated interference in large asexual pops at 1000-fold - that is, each superb beneficial mutation extinguishes 1000 lesser ones. Apparently this was news; it was a larger effect than people had anticipated.</p> <p>Unless I missed it, they discuss that number (1000) without examining whether it could vary with the degree of adaptedness to the environment. I'm not too sure about that.</p> <p><a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/317/5839/813?ijkey=UsUoH6NDh.Jyg&amp;keytype=ref&amp;siteid=sci">http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/317/5839/813?ijkey=UsUoH6NDh…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167362&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ylm77OdukBMNi-KBBzFzIWSqpjX07FzkrLl2mvoM-wY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Johnson (not verified)</span> on 21 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167362">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167363" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256115468"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This seems relevant:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1558-5646.2008.00595.x">http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1558-5646.2008.00595.x</a></p> <p>I can't look into it because I'm too lazy to turn on my proxy and I'm at home.</p> <p>@Josh I talked with my exp. evol. friend, apparently 1 mL is bottlenecked to 50 uL every day or something comparable in magnitude. So, clonal interference could be quite strong depending on the distribution of fitness effects and the mutation rate.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167363&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="StbIhsYes3-Aqko-pccucTQuZt3BNLmaQmBiBXsr2So"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">J.J.E. (not verified)</span> on 21 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167363">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167364" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256115834"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>There's no "theory" of evolution without a theory of inheritance -- any more than you have a theory of dielectrics without a theory of electrostatics.</p> <p>What Darwin gave wasn't a "theory" -- it was an idea, with a hell of a lot of data. Maybe even it could be called a synthesis. But with his "mixed" mode of inheritance, it really made no sense -- biologists of the following half century were correct to put it away. It turned out that the developed theory of inheritance then fit with his idea, and made it rigorously meaningful -- rather than close to tautological. </p> <p>Give credit where credit is due -- the folks of the Neodarwinian synthesis deserve more credit than Darwin; but of course Darwin deserves his own slice. The balance is often off, and it gives a distorted view of how biology should be done. It's even part of the "creationist problem" -- the disbalance leads folk to believe that evolutionary theory is Darwin's "theory" rather than the actual theory developed by the 1930's. They argue against a strawman -- created by mis-education.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167364&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uj-wV6C8QJ817PydhavzN_dUT8YaGETwhPT65rtuAHs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">frog (not verified)</span> on 21 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167364">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2167365" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1256116525"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"do you think that these phenomenon are ubiquitous that one should discard he use of toy examples like the one i did above at this point?"</p> <p>I kind of do. Simplified models often make good introductory pedagogical tools, but we usually learn the most when models fail, which is all the time. We don't really know how historically constrained and contingent genetic change is. It's telling that the top 5 (I think it was five) "human accelerated regions" (or HARs) that distinguish us from chimps all show evidence of being due to biased gene conversion rather than positive selection. It is clear that these things have left major (and misleading) imprints on our genomes.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2167365&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="k4cTj2FfMHSy5MYcBUKo6ovo87hJVUZGzoomHw8qlyA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">miko (not verified)</span> on 21 Oct 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2167365">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/gnxp/2009/10/20/the-arc-of-evolutionary-geneti%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:09:10 +0000 razib 100985 at https://scienceblogs.com Evolution: Random or Directed? https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/06/13/evolving-without-gods-permissi <span>Evolution: Random or Directed?</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/researchblogging.org/" rel="tag">researchblogging.org</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/evolution" rel="tag">evolution</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/experimental+evolution" rel="tag">experimental evolution</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/adaptation" rel="tag">adaptation</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/mutation" rel="tag">mutation</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/natural+selection " rel="tag">natural selection</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Richard+E.+Lenski" rel="tag">Richard E. Lenski</a></span></p> <div class="centeredCaption"> <p><a target="window" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/grrlscientist/2576111810/"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2576111810_32945dca3d_o.jpg" width="500" height="400" /></a></p> <p>The common gut bacteria, <i>Escherichia coli</i>, typically known as <i>E. coli</i>. </p> <p>Image: <a target="window" href="http://biology.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.denniskunkel.com/">Dennis Kunkel</a>.</p> </div> <p><span style="float: left; padding: 5px;"><a href="http://www.researchblogging.org"><img alt="ResearchBlogging.org" src="http://www.researchblogging.org/public/citation_icons/rb2_large_gray.png" style="border:0;" /></a></span><br /> </p><p class="lead">Evolution is a random process -- or is it? I ask this because we all can name examples of convergent evolution where very different organisms arrived at similar solutions to the challenges they are faced with. One such example is the striking morphological similarities between sharks (marine fishes) and dolphins (marine mammals). Thus, based on observations of convergent evolution, one is tempted to hypothesize that, even if the mutations that underly evolution itself are random, the "end result" of evolution is not. In fact, this is the central premise of an interesting book by Simon Conway Morris, <i><a target="window" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0521603250/livingthescie-20/">Life's Solution</a></i> (Cambridge University Press, 2004), where he postulates that ''the evolutionary routes are many, but the destinations are limited''. This is in direct conflict with the late Stephen Jay Gould's hypothesis that a far different evolutionary outcome would occur if we could only replay the "tape of life". So which is it? </p> <!--more--><p>Of course, replaying this tape of life is impossible, except when the organisms being studied have a fast enough generation time that we can watch their evolution during our own lifetimes. One scientist, Richard E. Lenski, a professor in the department of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics at Michigan State University, has been conducting this very experiment for the past 20 years. His organism of choice is our own humble gut bacteria, <i>Escherichia coli</i>, which has a generation time of approximately 20 minutes under optimum conditions. </p> <p>To investigate the repeatability of evolutionary trajectories and outcomes within a population, Lenski set up a long term evolution experiment in 1988 where he obtained twelve founding bacterial lineages from the same clone of <i>E. coli</i>. According to his experimental design, all twlve populations were grown separately from each other under identical conditions for more than 44,000 generations, so far (the experiment is ongoing). At time intervals of 500 generations, samples were collected from each of the twelve lineages and frozen. These samples can later be thawed, revived and grown in culture, providing a glimpse into the evolutionary past for each lineage, revealing a detailed living fossil record of evolutionary changes that occurred in each population, providing researchers with the opportunity to study the contributions from genetic mutation and drift, and of natural selection to evolutionary change. </p> <p>Part of Lenski's experimental design was to grow the twelve <i>E coli</i> lineages under poor conditions, where their preferred energy source, glucose, was severely limited. Thus, one of the first characteristics that these bacterial populations evolved was the ability to rapidly metabolize all the available glucose in the culture and then wait patiently for their next daily meal. The culture broth also included a second energy source; citrate. But unlike glucose, which was limited, citrate was present in abundance. At first, the abundance of citrate was unimportant because <i>E coli</i> cannot metabolize this molecule when oxygen is present, and in fact, citrate metabolism (Cit+) is a characteristic that has long been used to differentiate this species from other similar, bacterial species. </p> <p>Surprisingly, after 31,500 generations had passed, one of the twelve <i>E coli</i> lineages did the impossible: it evolved the capacity to metabolize citrate in the presence of oxygen. </p> <p>But when exactly, did the citrate metabolic ability first appear? Referring to frozen bacterial stocks for this particular lineage, Lenski's team discovered that Cit+ variants first appeared after 31,000 generations had passed, but were unable to expand to dominance until a further 2000 generations had passed. This suggests that the Cit+ variants needed to accumulate several more mutations that enhanced their metabolic efficiency so they could out-compete their Cit- relatives. </p> <p>The long period of time that elapsed before Cit+ appeared within one -- and <i>only one</i> -- population suggested one of two evolutionary possibilities; either the Cit+ mutational event was especially unusual or the evolution of this particular character is contingent upon a complex series of earlier mutations, at least some of which were not uniquely advantageous to the organisms possessing them. This second, more complex form of evolution is known as contingent adaptation. </p> <p>To clarify the evolutionary events that underlie the appearance of citrate metabolism, the researchers asked if Cit+ would <i>always arise</i> among descendants from the evolutionary ancestors wihtin this one lineage. In short, would the Cit+ variant always appear in this lineage if the "tape of life" could be replayed? When the researchers replayed the "tape of life" for this lineage by reviving older bacterial stocks and growing them again, they found that Cit+ <i>never</i> appeared in populations grown from samples that were frozen before 20,000 generations had passed, that citrate metabolizers were "extremely rare" in populations grown from samples frozen afterwards up until 27,000 generations had passed, and after that point, citrate metabolizers then were only "rare". Based on all these data, Lenski's team concluded that evolution is a process of historical contingencies so that, if one can replay the "tape of life," the evolutionary trajectory would yield different outcomes. </p> <p>But what traits had to change before Cit+ arose? To identify the specific mutations that gave rise to Cit+ variants, the team is currently sequencing the entire genome of this bacterial lineage, using samples that were frozen before and after Cit+ appeared. Conveniently, an ecological balance formed in this lineage; even though a large majority of the community consisted of Cit+ specialists, a minority of the bacteria in the population remained Cit- generalists. This fortuitous development allows Lenski's team to identify specific mutations that contribute to Cit+ by comparing genomic sequence data from Cit- clones to Cit+ after citrate metabolism appeared in the population. </p> <p>Further, because there are now two subpopulations in this lineage, this experiment presents the unique opportunity for scientists to study population dynamics that govern the emergence of a new character and to understand how one phenotype affects the other under a variety of environmental conditions. </p> <p>As a result of this experiment, Lenski's team hypothesizes that historical contingency is especially important when it facilitates the evolution of key innovations that are not easily evolved by gradual, cumulative selection. </p> <p><b>Source</b></p> <p><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.aulast=Blount&amp;rft.aufirst=Z&amp;rft.aumiddle=D&amp;rft.au=Z+ Blount&amp;rft.au=C+Z+Borland&amp;rft.au=R+E+Lenski&amp;rft.title=Proceedings+of+the+National+Academy+of+Sciences&amp;rft.atitle=Inaugural+Article%3A+Historical+contingency+and+the+evolution+of+a+key+innovation+in+an+experimental+population+of+Escherichia+coli&amp;rft.date=2008&amp;rft.volume=105&amp;rft.issue=23&amp;rft.spage=7899&amp;rft.epage=7906&amp;rft.genre=article&amp;rft.id=info:DOI/10.1073%2Fpnas.0803151105"></span>Blount, Z.D., Borland, C.Z., Lenski, R.E. (2008). Inaugural Article: Historical contingency and the evolution of a key innovation in an experimental population of Escherichia coli. <span style="font-style: italic;">Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 105</span>(23), 7899-7906. DOI: <a rev="review" target="window" href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1073/pnas.0803151105">10.1073/pnas.0803151105</a></p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Fri, 06/13/2008 - 08:06</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/evolution" hreflang="en">evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/journal-club" hreflang="en">journal club</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/microbiology" hreflang="en">microbiology</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bacteria" hreflang="en">bacteria</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bpr3orgp52" hreflang="en">bpr3.org/?p=52</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/e-coli-0" hreflang="en">e coli</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/experimental-evolution" hreflang="en">experimental evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mutation" hreflang="en">mutation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/natural-selection" hreflang="en">natural selection</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/peer-reviewed-paper" hreflang="en">peer-reviewed paper</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/peer-reviewed-research" hreflang="en">peer-reviewed research</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/richard-lenski" hreflang="en">Richard Lenski</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/evolution" hreflang="en">evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/journal-club" hreflang="en">journal club</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/microbiology" hreflang="en">microbiology</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060944" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1213371769"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I very much enjoyed this article about a fascinating experiment, and I hope to read a lot more like it here. I just have one quibble.</p> <p>I believe your original question, "Evolution: Random or Directed?" is misleading. Evolution is seldom if ever random. It is probably always directed.</p> <p>Mutations are random, but natural selection is probably aways present to some extent; and it is never random. Natural selection is always directional, in the sense that only the "fittest" are selected. Whether or not it is also directional in any other sense is doubtful, but it'll be very interesting to see additional results of this experiment.</p> <p>Keep up the good reporting.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060944&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cyD7uIoNj7trDJ71KWainTBmI9afFdvFk7mudFYXGX0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://nobull.ws" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bill Dearmore (not verified)</a> on 13 Jun 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060944">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060945" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1213441136"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Great article!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060945&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="N_XrWBweBDRUsIAQRmndJu5AMRRy7SCx7ZkGoG0xxyA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Drew Wheelan (not verified)</span> on 14 Jun 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060945">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060946" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1213452997"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>G/S,<br /> Extremely well-written; intelligent and crystal-clear.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060946&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xM7HFYGCYRwEdnT0gXwGJ999AZr8bL-ChGhzMOsCaFs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">biosparite (not verified)</span> on 14 Jun 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060946">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="134" id="comment-2060947" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1213459602"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>thank you bill for the clarification. of course, i meant "mutations are random" and evolution acts on those mutations to select for those that provide the organism with the "best fit" for the niche they are living in, but i should have said that!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060947&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9J_l2x_jbkwwze_lK-eqjh78RyNDUJGrKjtiNQimQsk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a> on 14 Jun 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060947">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/grrlscientist"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/grrlscientist" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/Hedwig%20P%C3%B6ll%C3%B6l%C3%A4inen.jpeg?itok=-pOoqzmB" width="58" height="58" alt="Profile picture for user grrlscientist" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060948" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1213571266"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>One hint that the fitness landscape often has areas with steep plateaus comes from descriptions of the way "invader species" sometimes rapidly assume competitive dominance over well-established native species. If all slopes were gentle one would expect these natives to have already reached the same level as the invaders long ago.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060948&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="emoFmIDmugPqXLoSXItWJSykN9dWKn-cFCDW0enqyLU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">melior (not verified)</span> on 15 Jun 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060948">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060949" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1213896767"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>very interesting article and experiment, thank you.</p> <p>@Bill Dearmore: i think that "best fit" idea is a wrong interpretation of the Darwinism or Neodarwinism.<br /> In the case of this experiment, all the samples had the same propierties and some where changed to see bacterie's response, and in fact, the ones who had the aleatory character capable of metabolicing citrate in the presence of oxygen, where the "fittest" for that rule, but we must understand that in natural conditions any habitat, and even more any microhabitat is constantly changing, so the possible "fitest bacteries" could be for lots and lots of diferent elements and conditions, and not to any particular direction.<br /> i hope i explained myself alright.<br /> something like that happens with the convergence of some marine mammals and sharks mentioned in the article (and some extinct reptils!) in the case of morphology the most pressuring element in the water is the hidrodinamical shape, so animals wich have in common design could turn into similar outfit, but anyway there are and been million of other diferent ways and forms to fit the navigation in the sea (even in the same scala of this animals we are talking.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060949&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1HxgIcucBXeQLOqcQLSsw3h7pcNulDl1cJeQiFNsraQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">jamirokaki (not verified)</span> on 19 Jun 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060949">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060950" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217170203"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>what a silly question. it's both as are all nature-nuture queries. you can't one without the other.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060950&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pbPTpQ_Q3rLp1m_pSw2BzmO1dczrJZJHbgOcy1N5pPk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">genesgalore (not verified)</span> on 27 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060950">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060951" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217718067"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>the evolutionary routes are many, but the destinations are limited</p></blockquote> <p>idk to me the idea that there are "destinations", which are somehow distinct from "routes", seems rather strange and quite questionable. If a niche is good enough to be part of a route, it should be good enough to be a destination.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060951&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="GpQvPG-5pbJV9DcN9ya_2BIQqCmwhfxbXaW0PAHUOUU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2006/08/23/P14-060823-a1.jpg" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">brtkrbzhnv (not verified)</a> on 02 Aug 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060951">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060952" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1218731727"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>thank you for making this research accessible to those of us who are educated lay persons. You made the issues, the design of the experiement, and the findings easy to understand.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060952&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OW_gXdFp1MzdCLL4Th89t0UnkAeysArv5ouk820WkIQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://sunflowerroots.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sue (not verified)</a> on 14 Aug 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060952">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060953" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1218734214"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Very well written science writing.<br /> @ brkrbzhnv<br /> Regarding the analogy of destinations and routes. That they are different seems perfectly clear to me, it is the term 'niche' that is muddies their distinction to mix the metaphor. Organisms from different lineages converge on common morphological solutions again and again. routes are ancestry. The idea of destinations has been also explored in the idea of 'attractors'.</p> <p>Perhaps what is confusing is that destinations are not necessarily final (terminal)from the lineages point of view and that the attractor exists independent of the lineage that stumbles into it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060953&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Q3xBZREwMQp4Q6Ui1ijAfT3wyO7fTRXn3ArqJokriwE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Shannan Mortimer (not verified)</span> on 14 Aug 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060953">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="134" id="comment-2060954" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1218735503"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>thanks for reading! and yes, i was using "destinations" metaphorically since really, evolution is really a journey with no end (except for those species that become extinct).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060954&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="481p6_1LzsyEp03bwcNm6v7g7o87Z__0XsGbqVCmRoM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a> on 14 Aug 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060954">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/grrlscientist"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/grrlscientist" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/Hedwig%20P%C3%B6ll%C3%B6l%C3%A4inen.jpeg?itok=-pOoqzmB" width="58" height="58" alt="Profile picture for user grrlscientist" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060955" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1220628399"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>form follows function and function follows form. form will function when the function can form. ;)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060955&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="112JSgb3YrqFpxU7_zJmT5r75IQtLOlG2IBcjkqlE_Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">genesgalore (not verified)</span> on 05 Sep 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060955">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060956" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1223629223"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I looked askance at the question at first as well... partly because just yesterday I was watching a brief discussion between Richard Dawkins and Ted Haggard (evangelical extraordinaire, now somewhat reduced) where Haggard was saying "now, evolutionists say that the eye, and all these complex things just happened at random, and some people have a hard time believing that" (I'm paraphrasing), and of course Dawkins was incensed; "no actual scientist says that evolution itself is random -- it's extremely directed (reproduce or disappear), through the very simple mechanism of natural selection" (again very much paraphrasing).</p> <p>So I'd say maybe even tweak the title... just because there are IDers who are sneaky enough to use your post as an example of "even more proof that real scientists are wondering how evolution can work" or whatever nonsense they want to tag onto it. I suppose I'm paranoid, but you see enough dirty tricks and you start to see them everywhere....</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060956&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Ws6DJIy40ziw_-IBI20-8bavi7TBSni3q2Qsz9R_srI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rob W (not verified)</span> on 10 Oct 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060956">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060957" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1225961192"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Variation is random but selection depends on the conditions - from both the external environment and competition from fellow organisms. </p> <p>Think of a sieve. Suppose you have a mixture of dry sand with dried peas and you want to eat the peas without sand. You can pick out the individual peas, which is slow and effortful. Or you can dump the whole lot into a colander and shake it. The motions of the peas and sand grains are effectively random. You can't predict which sand grain will strike the sieve where or whether it will strike a hole or a solid part. But after a minute, the sand has fallen through and the peas remain. </p> <p>The motions of the peas and sand are random variation; the colander is the environment. </p> <p>I do this to separate bite-sized bits from chaff when I get to the bottom of a box of cereal.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060957&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="A6shMM_oR0Y2VG1jKkvQ0ubL5jRiI5VVUECmSYZYIx0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://sciencenotes.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Monado (not verified)</a> on 06 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060957">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060958" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230612666"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Evolution is biased at genes replication routes, at their alternative-splicing-steps junctions</p> <p>A. A reply to one of my posts:</p> <p>"Dov, you write: Life's evolution is not random. It is biased, driven by culture. </p> <p>Be sure you understand that Darwin did not say that evolution is random. He said that evolution is not random. It is driven by natural selection."</p> <p>B. I never wrote anything that Darwin said. Here, again, is what I say and wrote: </p> <p>Culture is the universal driver of genetic evolution</p> <p>The major course of natural selection is not via random mutations followed by survival, but via interdependent, interactive and interenhencing selection of biased genes replication routes at their alternative-splicing-steps junctions, effected by the cultural feedback of the third stratum multicells organism or monocells community to their second and prime strata genome-genes organisms."</p> <p>Dov Henis<br /> (Comments From The 22nd Century)<br /> <a href="http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q">http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-P81pQcU1dLBbHgtjQjxG_Q</a>--?cq=1</p> <p> Life's Manifest<br /> <a href="http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/112.page#578">http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/112.page#578</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060958&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aClqZ2o5wAum6YMYc4BGV2z4e2udeRquX9m3WRy94pQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dov Henis (not verified)</span> on 29 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23065/feed#comment-2060958">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2008/06/13/evolving-without-gods-permissi%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:06:59 +0000 grrlscientist 87121 at https://scienceblogs.com