Fish Farming https://scienceblogs.com/ en TEDTalks: Dan Barber: How I fell in Love with a Fish https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2010/03/12/dan-barber-how-i-fell-in-love <span>TEDTalks: Dan Barber: How I fell in Love with a Fish</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/fish+farming" rel="tag">fish farming</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/aquaculture" rel="tag">aquaculture</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/piscivory" rel="tag">piscivory</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/bird+sanctuary" rel="tag">bird sanctuary</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/foodie" rel="tag">foodie</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/ethical+eating" rel="tag">ethical eating</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/permaculture" rel="tag">permaculture</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/agriculture" rel="tag">agriculture</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/poverty" rel="tag">poverty</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/hunger" rel="tag">hunger</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Dan+Barber" rel="tag">Dan Barber</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/TEDTalks" rel="tag">TEDTalks</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/streaming+video" rel="tag">streaming video</a></span></p> <p>Chef Dan Barber squares off with a dilemma facing many chefs today: how to keep fish on the menu. With impeccable research and deadpan humor, he chronicles his pursuit of a sustainable fish he could love, and the foodie's honeymoon he's enjoyed since discovering an outrageously delicious fish raised using a revolutionary farming method in Spain. My one complaint about this video is that the speaker never once identifies either of the fishes he fell in love with .. if they're so wonderful, why doesn't he tell us what they are so we can all enjoy eating fish that are ethically and sustainably farmed? </p> <!--more--><object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4EUAMe2ixCI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4EUAMe2ixCI&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;showinfo=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object><p> <a target="window" href="http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDtalksDirector">TEDTalks</a> is a daily video podcast of the best talks and performances from the TED Conference, where the world's leading thinkers and doers give the talk of their lives in 18 minutes. Featured speakers have included Al Gore on climate change, Philippe Starck on design, Jill Bolte Taylor on observing her own stroke, Nicholas Negroponte on One Laptop per Child, Jane Goodall on chimpanzees, Bill Gates on malaria and mosquitoes, Pattie Maes on the "Sixth Sense" wearable tech, and "Lost" producer JJ Abrams on the allure of mystery. TED stands for Technology, Entertainment, Design, and TEDTalks cover these topics as well as science, business, development and the arts. </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Thu, 03/11/2010 - 23:59</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/conservation" hreflang="en">conservation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish" hreflang="en">fish</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/agriculture" hreflang="en">agriculture</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/aquaculture" hreflang="en">aquaculture</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bird-sanctuary" hreflang="en">bird sanctuary</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/dan-barber" hreflang="en">Dan Barber</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ethical-eating" hreflang="en">ethical eating</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish-farming" hreflang="en">Fish Farming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/foodie" hreflang="en">foodie</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/hunger" hreflang="en">hunger</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/menu" hreflang="en">menu</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/permaculture" hreflang="en">permaculture</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/piscivory" hreflang="en">piscivory</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/poverty" hreflang="en">poverty</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-video" hreflang="en">streaming video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/tedtalks" hreflang="en">TEDTalks</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/video" hreflang="en">Video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/conservation" hreflang="en">conservation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish" hreflang="en">fish</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2074201" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1268381192"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Might this be what he's on about?<br /> <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1902751,00.html">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1902751,00.html</a></p> <p>I usually eat fish once or twice a week, but it's difficult to know what's good and bad, environmentally. Mostly I eat farmed salmon and trout. I really like tuna, but there doesn't seem to be a sustainable source at the moment.<br /> Mackerel I think is still OK, and at least it's fairly local.</p> <p>Of course, although there may be fish farms which are well run I'm limited to the fish which is available in my local shops.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2074201&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6rCKLC081e_IbEl0shPTgIyCCNr_Fdc2UWQD6x0Llgo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">SimonG (not verified)</span> on 12 Mar 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2074201">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2074202" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1268397776"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Huh, that's interesting, SImonG. I've never seen the farmed lubina (which is what they call sea bass in spain) in markets - the size at harvest would make it obvious. Probably too expensive for the markets I've shopped in, if they're comparing it to pata negra ("black hoof" iberian pigs that are raised free range in oak forests) and if it's being sold to top-end restaurants.</p> <p>That's an interesting wetlands restoration/bird habitat/fish farming scenario the article describes.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2074202&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="WOivCM0kDdvtifXUUfdsmWpaQT-hPBVdgCA0oDls1ro"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">dhogaza (not verified)</span> on 12 Mar 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2074202">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2074203" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1268397898"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>SimonG, the Monterey Bay Aquarium maintains a list of good, iffy, and bad fish, with explanations, *and* they produce a small card for reference in wallets, *and* they have cards specific to regions of the US:</p> <p><a href="http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/download.aspx">http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/download.aspx</a></p> <p>Stuff available for smartphones, too.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2074203&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Bizqn-3FTZh1o1iHJ9_gcehNUlO7pOldwYS5bGYgjOo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tenhand.com/clew/blog" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">clew (not verified)</a> on 12 Mar 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2074203">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2074204" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1268407359"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Inconveniently, I'm in England, so the MBA's doubtless marvellous publications are of limited use to me.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2074204&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lmYG0XqT60dhyYMg3_qKxl9bucWwl7-2M595inZ4oI8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">SimonG (not verified)</span> on 12 Mar 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2074204">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2074205" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1268419199"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Spanish Mackerel appears on the menu at Blue Hill New York</p> <p><a href="http://www.bluehillfarm.com/food/blue-hill-new-york/menu">http://www.bluehillfarm.com/food/blue-hill-new-york/menu</a></p> <p>Maybe that is the one.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2074205&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="nEWR0m7PRv63TusqGQI0TrQUcz6b1FeZjnT8Kry85E0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">lectric lady (not verified)</span> on 12 Mar 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2074205">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2010/03/12/dan-barber-how-i-fell-in-love%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:59:12 +0000 grrlscientist 90510 at https://scienceblogs.com Farm Fugitives Feasting On Fiji's Fish? https://scienceblogs.com/observations/2010/01/13/farm-fugitives-feasting-on-fijis-fish <span>Farm Fugitives Feasting On Fiji&#039;s Fish?</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="float:left;padding:5px;"><a href="http://www.researchblogging.org"><img alt="ResearchBlogging.org" src="http://www.researchblogging.org/public/citation_icons/rb2_tiny.png" /></a></span><a href="http://www.biteofthebest.com/wp-content/uploads/tilapia.jpg"><img style="float:right; margin:0 0 10px 10px" src="http://www.biteofthebest.com/wp-content/uploads/tilapia.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></a>Tilapia has quickly risen the ranks as an important aquaculture fish. It's third in production behind carps and salmon, with over 1,500,000 metric tons produced every year. They're ideal fish farm species because they're omnivorous, fairly big, quick-growing, tolerate high densities quite well and are mighty tasty. </p> <p>More than anything else, tilapia are hailed as one of aquaculture's greatest successes. Cheap and easy, they breed well and are considered far more environmentally friendly than other species because they can be fed a vegetarian diet. Conservation organizations have even set up a way that farmers can <a href="http://www.worldwildlife.org/who/media/press/2009/WWFPresitem14387.html">certify that their tilapia farm is environmentally friendly</a>. </p> <p>Tilapia species have been in Fiji since at least 1949. At first they were introcued to feed pigs, but once tilapia began to be seen as good for people, too, Fijians began farming them for human consumption. Fish ponds were constructed in the interior areas of Viti Levu and Vanua Levu to provide supplemental animal protein to the protein-deficient inland rural communities. In 1999, fish farms in Fiji produced 300 tonnes of tilapia, and outputs have continued to rise. Since most of Fiji's cultured fish are distributed locally, tilapia are feeding a lot of Fiji's people every year.</p> <p><a href="http://cichlid.umd.edu/cichlidlabs/kocherlab/images/Adult-tilapia.jpg"><img src="http://cichlid.umd.edu/cichlidlabs/kocherlab/images/Adult-tilapia.jpg" width="200" style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0" border="0" alt="" /></a>But there's a downside to being the perfect fish to farm: tilapia are also a highly damaging invasive species, for many of the same reasons they're so perfectly adaptable to aquaculture. Because they grow fast and eat whatever is available, they're very adaptable to living in just about any freshwater environment that's warm enough. they've invaded the waterways of many of the countries that farm them commercially from accidental or intentional releases from farms. In Fiji, a new study has revealed that these escapees are damaging the natural biodiversity of Fiji's waterways.</p> <p>Researchers from Wetlands International, the Wildlife Conservation Society, and Conservation International set out to better understand the nature of Fiji's fresh water systems and what forces are damaging them. They sampled native fish from all over the Fiji, including 20 river basins on the major islands of Vitu Levu, Vanua Levu, and Taveuni, and at the same time recorded possible factors that might be influencing native fish density like the presence of invasive tilapia (<span style="font-style:italic;">Oreochromis</span> spp.), forest cover, distance upstream or downstream, and water quality variables. </p> <p>They found that two things correlated strongly to the diversity of native fish in an area. Firstly, they found that the more an area had been cleared for housing or other reasons, the fewer species of native fish. It was not shocking to find that human activity damaged the native ecosystems, as similar results have been found all over the world. It was the second variable that decimated native fish diversity that made headlines: the presence of tilapia species (genus <i>Oreochromis</i>).</p> <p><a href="http://oceania.wetlands.org/Portals/11/pictures/Fiji%20Invasive%20Fishes_20.11.2008.jpg"><img src="http://oceania.wetlands.org/Portals/11/pictures/Fiji%20Invasive%20Fishes_20.11.2008.jpg" width="515" border="0" alt="" /></a>Of the 89 different sample locations surveyed, 85.4% had been invaded by tilapia. The study found that where this occurred, native fish diversity suffered greatly. In areas free of <i>Oreochromis</i>, there were, on average, 16 species of native fish. Where the invaders lived, however, there were only four, a 75% drop in diversity. The the throat-spine gudgeon, the olive flathead-gudgeon, and other gobies were hit the hardest, including species that have been traditionally fished and eaten by Fijians for generations.</p> <p>Why the tilapia have such a dramatic impact is not certain, but the researchers think that it might be a very direct reason: tilapia are known to eat larvae and juvenile fish, and the researchers think that they might be chowing down on the native young'uns.</p> <p>In Fiji, the loss of native fish is as much a cultural issue as it is an environmental one. Many native species form an important part of the diet of inland communities, and, in particular, are important in small villages where fish are caught not farmed. The decline in the market trade of traditional Fijian fish damages the poorest who have the most trouble switching to other sources of income.</p> <p>According to the scientists, "An ecosystem approach to management is required that: (1) incorporates conservation of forests... and (2) actively excludes introduction of <i>Oreochromis</i> spp." In other words, protect the forests and get rid of the tilapia.</p> <p>It's a good plan for the native fish, but as the human populations continue to expand, countries like Fiji will, out of necessity, rely more and more heavily on compact, efficient means of producing food like fish farms. As they do so, it will be harder and harder to keep the fish in the farms from escaping and damaging the surrounding habitat. While this paper serves to warn of the downsides of aquaculture, it unfortunately doesn't provide a solution to the underlying problem of too many mouths to feed on limited resources. I fear that even the most eco-friendly methods of feeding the world come at a price that may be too steep for many native species. </p> <p><font size="1">Citation: <span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=Aquatic+Conservation%3A+Marine+and+Freshwater+Ecosystems&amp;rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1002%2Faqc.1086&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fresearchblogging.org&amp;rft.atitle=The+importance+of+ecosystem-based+management+for+conserving+aquatic+migratory+pathways+on+tropical+high+islands%3A+a+case+study+from+Fiji&amp;rft.issn=10527613&amp;rft.date=2009&amp;rft.volume=&amp;rft.issue=&amp;rft.spage=0&amp;rft.epage=0&amp;rft.artnum=http%3A%2F%2Fdoi.wiley.com%2F10.1002%2Faqc.1086&amp;rft.au=Jenkins%2C+A.&amp;rft.au=Jupiter%2C+S.&amp;rft.au=Qauqau%2C+I.&amp;rft.au=Atherton%2C+J.&amp;rfe_dat=bpr3.included=1;bpr3.tags=Biology%2CZoology%2C+Molecular+Biology%2C+Marine+Biology%2C+Ecology%2C+Evolutionary+Biology%2C+Cell+Biology%2C+Behavioral+Biology%2C+Biochemistry%2C+Immunology">Jenkins, A., Jupiter, S., Qauqau, I., &amp; Atherton, J. (2009). The importance of ecosystem-based management for conserving aquatic migratory pathways on tropical high islands: a case study from Fiji <span style="font-style:italic;">Aquatic Conservation: Marine and Freshwater Ecosystems</span> DOI: <a rev="review" href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/aqc.1086">10.1002/aqc.1086</a></span></font></p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/cwilcox" lang="" about="/author/cwilcox" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">cwilcox</a></span> <span>Wed, 01/13/2010 - 04:53</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish-farming" hreflang="en">Fish Farming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/native-fish-populations" hreflang="en">Native Fish Populations</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/tilapia" hreflang="en">tilapia</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-categories field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Categories</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/channel/life-sciences" hreflang="en">Life Sciences</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2467904" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1270634199"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>*sigh* You win some, you lose some. Can we start farming tilapia in large tanks in the desert? Their chances of escaping into the wild are much slimmer that way, and we won't have to truck them so far to get them to market.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2467904&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6hmXGvHSWnxLC56GKP05QNdlbrAu-9TNYFFtKUMI5dk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rogue Epidemiologist (not verified)</span> on 07 Apr 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2467904">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2467905" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1270639040"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You just have to truck in large volumes of fresh water! Yeah, that's the ticket!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2467905&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="om5wbttcGO-P0UHGLKAtg0j-bsoZra0Ow4eNqkzKYIE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Tlazolteotl (not verified)</span> on 07 Apr 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2467905">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/observations/2010/01/13/farm-fugitives-feasting-on-fijis-fish%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:53:00 +0000 cwilcox 141954 at https://scienceblogs.com Bottomfeeder: How to Eat Ethically in a World of Vanishing Seafood https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/11/12/bottomfeeder <span>Bottomfeeder: How to Eat Ethically in a World of Vanishing Seafood</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/seafood" rel="tag">seafood</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/fisheries" rel="tag">fisheries</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/aquaculture" rel="tag">aquaculture</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/fish+farming" rel="tag">fish farming</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/tuna" rel="tag">tuna</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/swordfish" rel="tag">swordfish</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/salmon" rel="tag">salmon</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/shrimp" rel="tag">shrimp</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/sushi" rel="tag">sushi</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/book+review" rel="tag">book review</a></span></p> <p><a target="window" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1596912251/livingthescie-20/"><img class="inset right" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2764140908_2374413049_m.jpg" width="159" height="240" /></a><i>There's plenty of fish in the sea</i>, as the old addage goes -- but are there, really? I experienced a rude awakening at the peak popularity of Orange Roughy, which I loved. I learned that Orange Roughy, <i>Hoplostethus atlanticus</i>, an extremely long-lived benthic species in the Western Pacific Ocean that doesn't even reach sexual maturity until 40 years of age, was being eaten out of existence by people like me. After I learned that, I never touched Orange Roughy again. But after I discovered Japanese sushi, especially Toro (chutoro, otoro) -- the melt-in-your-mouth fatty belly meat from the giant bluefin tuna, <i>Thunnus thynnus</i> -- I learned this lesson once more. Based on these experiences, I concluded that it was not possible to eat seafood without either causing extinctions and massive habitat destruction or poisoning myself, so I have not eaten seafood since. Until now, that is. Thanks to Taras Grescoe's book, <i><a target="window" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1596912251/livingthescie-20/">Bottomfeeder: How to Eat Ethically in a World of Vanishing Seafood</a></i> (NYC: Bloomsbury; 2008), everyone can make environmentally friendly seafood choices -- <a target="window" href="http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/11/seafood_recipes.php">choices I am already pursuing</a>. </p> <!--more--><p>My desire to consume seafood and fish as my primary source of animal protein was initially a "green" decision that was supported by my growing fondness for seafood. Despite the fact that seafood and fish are widely perceived to be affordable "green" foods, I learned this is not the case. Further, I learned that consuming most seafood is in direct conflict with my desire to live as lightly as possible on this earth (well, "lightly" for an American), and that I was contributing to the extinction of many species of marine fishes.</p> <p>But unlike other food items, making ethical and healthy seafood choices were impossible because of the veil of secrecy enshrouding it. I could rarely learn the method used to "harvest" the seafood I was contemplating purchasing, nor where the animals were captured, and sometimes, I could not even learn which species of fish or shellfish I was eating. In short, the more that I learned about the commercial fisheries and fish farming industries, the less I wanted to support either of them. In the end, I gave up eating seafood -- all animal protein, in fact, except for occasional dairy products -- for many years. According to what I read, I am not alone. </p> <p>In this well-researched and powerful expose of the seafood industry, Taras Grescoe documents the commercial fishing industry's rapacious and wasteful practices and shows how these technologies place them on a collision course with disaster. For example, massive bottom-trawlers are scraping the ocean floor clean of all visible life in pursuit of fewer and smaller fishes, while discarding hundreds of tons of dead and dying "bycatch" overboard (bycatch are fish that are either too small or the wrong species to sell, and other animals, such as seabirds, marine mammals and sea turtles, that are caught in the giant nets along with the targeted fish) [this is a topic I've written about before; <a target="window" href="http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/02/what_you_cant_see_wont_hurt_yo.php">Out of Sight, Out of Mind: Loving Our Oceans to Death</a>].</p> <p>Fish farming, which had once been widely touted as "the answer" to the environmental damages caused by commercial fishing, causes quite a few serious, and often interrelated, problems. For example, the habitat destruction of coastal mangroves is complicated by increased local poverty due to farming so-called "jumbo shrimp" for consumption in Japan, America and Europe -- an issue I've written about several times before [for example; <a target="window" href="http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2006/02/tsunamis_and_mangroves_the_shr.php">Tsunamis and Mangroves: The Shrimp Connection</a>]. To make things even worse, the commercial fish foods sold to the local shrimp and fish farmers poison the earth with pollutants and antibiotics, which triggers the development multiply-drug resistant bacteria that cause dangerous contageous diseases in humans. </p> <p>Another serious problem associated with fish and shrimp farming is the introduction of farmed species into waterways where they are alien, such as Atlantic salmon into the Pacific Northwest, where they are competing with -- and hybridizing with -- dwindling native salmon populations for limited resources. But fish farming is not the only mechanism whereby alien species find their way into new waters: dumping of ballast water by large cargo ships near coasts also transplants alien species, and even local aquariums are causing problems. For example, Jacques Cousteau, the world's greatest populizer of oceaonography, inadvertently dumped the invasive Australian "assassin algae", <i>Caulerpa taxifolia</i>, into the Mediterranean Sea when he was director of the Oceanographic Museum of Monaco. </p> <p>Given these snippets of information, it would be easy to assume this book would read like a rant, but instead, it is an unexpectedly tasty combination of investigative journalism, travel writing and scientific research. Grescoe talks with fishermen and shellfish farmers, chefs, scientists and government officials as he follows many species of fish and marine animals as they make the journey from their ocean home to the most celebrated (and often controversial) dishes in the world; from Bouillabaisse in Marseilles and sharkfin soup in Shanghai to Otoro in Tokyo and monkfish tail in New York City. </p> <p>In ten chapters, Grescoe's conversations and experiences reveal, fish by fish, how our thoughtless and irresponsible eating habits are unsustainable; how we are preferentially consuming the top predators in the marine food web; tuna, sailfish and swordfish, shark, salmon and seabass, which poisons our bodies with mercury and other accumulated toxins and disrupts the entire marine ecosystem, leading to the massive over-proliferation of the so-called bottomfishes, such as jellyfishes. </p> <p>Grescoe's book is not a one-sided endictment of everyone involved with seafood. For example, in this book, Grescoe introduces us to Chesapeake Bay waterman, Tommy Leggett, whose goal has always been to "grow things" [pp. 57-59]. Leggett ended up turning his hobby -- oyster farming -- into an income source that rivals that of his full-time job. And the best thing is that oysters are unusual among farmed seafood because they happily filter toxins and pollution out of waterways, thereby making their environment cleaner than before. (Leggett is very knowledgeable about oysters and their role in the ecosystem, and as you read this interview, you'll quickly realize he is quite fond of his oysters as more than just a source of revenue -- a detail that I found to be amusingly endearing).</p> <p>My favorite story in the book occurred when Grescoe elected to participate in the annual Pufferfish Memorial Service by releasing a poisonous <i>fugu</i> into Tokyo's Sumida River -- after consuming a potentially fatal meal of <i>fugu</i> sashimi. In this ceremony, which is presided over by a Shinto priest in a golden headdress, the wholesalers at the world-famous Tsujiki Market gather to pay tribute to the souls of all the fish they have dispatched. The author writes;</p> <blockquote><p>Picking up a mid-sized <i>fugu</i>, I cupped its slippery belly in my palms. It was surprisingly heavy. Looking up at me with its round, dark eyes, it was as cute as a Pokemon, minus the annoying squeeks. I walked to the river, watching my <i>fugu</i> gasp through its rectangular mouth. [ ... ] Giving my <i>fugu</i> a final pat, I let it slip into the slate-colored water as smoothly as I could. It quickly disappeared beneath the surface of the Sumida River. When I last glimpsed it, it was heading in the direction of the Pacific Ocean. [pp. 219-220] </p></blockquote> <p>After detailing the myriad and often complex problems with seafood, Grescoe then goes on to suggest how we can do something beneficial for the world's oceans without giving up seafood entirely. As suggested by the title of his book, the author advises us to become bottomfeeders ourselves, to eat pelagic fishes, such as blue whiting and Atlantic herring; schooling fishes, such as sardines, pollock and mackerel; shellfish such as crabs, lobsters, oysters and mussels; and he points out that we will be doing the oceans a big favor if we especially focus our culinary energies upon jellyfish. (He even mentions peanut butter and jellyfish sandwiches at one point.)</p> <p>This book is meticulously-researched, passionate and very useful. At the end, it has a 14-page citation list and a 12-page reader-friendly index as well as an informative and useful index that lists tools for choosing seafood -- the index alone is worth the price of the book. I was so impressed with this book that I will go one step further and recommend <i>Bottomfeeder</i> as my "must read" book of the year. It will especially be appreciated by environmentalists, chefs, and especially by everyone who loves to eat any type of seafood. </p> <p>If you wish to carry a guide to ethical seafood choices in your pocket or wallet, check out the Monterey Bay Aquarium's <a target="window" href="http://www.mbayaq.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/download.aspx">printable seafood "avoid" pocket guide</a>.</p> <p><b>Taras Grescoe</b> is the author of <i><a target="window" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1582346151/livingthescie-20/">The Devil's Picnic: Travels Through the Underworld of Food and Drink</a></i> and <i><a target="window" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1551990814/livingthescie-20/">Sacre Blues: An Unsentimental Journey Through Quebec</a></i>, which was shortlisted for the Writers' Trust Award and was a national bestseller in Canada. His work appears in major publications all over the U.S., the UK, and Canada, including <i>the Times, National Geographic, Independent, Condé Nast Traveller (UK), National Geographic Traveler</i>, and <i>the New York Times</i>. He picnics on bottomfish in Montreal.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Wed, 11/12/2008 - 04:59</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/book-review" hreflang="en">book review</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/environment" hreflang="en">environment</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ethics" hreflang="en">ethics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish" hreflang="en">fish</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/017fd05c24723bbcb19759f069fee93a" hreflang="en">017fd05c24723bbcb19759f069fee93a</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bottomfeeder-how-eat-ethically-world-vanishing-seafood" hreflang="en">Bottomfeeder: How to Eat Ethically in a World of Vanishing Seafood</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/commercial-fishing" hreflang="en">commercial fishing</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish-farming" hreflang="en">Fish Farming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/seafood" hreflang="en">Seafood</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/taras-grescoe" hreflang="en">Taras Grescoe</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/book-review" hreflang="en">book review</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/environment" hreflang="en">environment</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ethics" hreflang="en">ethics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish" hreflang="en">fish</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-categories field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Categories</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/channel/environment" hreflang="en">Environment</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063928" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226488648"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is one of my all-time favorite nonfiction books. He is single-handedly responsible for turning me into a kipper aficionado. Although I really don't care for shellfish (except shrimp--curses!), so that particular tip bummed me out.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063928&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NdFBHwmYkN3nYbshDyi-HtagVRXZWucJHOplfmSdjmg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dr. Kate (not verified)</span> on 12 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063928">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063929" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226493000"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I wasn't aware that sailfish were being overfished. Aren't they mainly just a sport fish or are they another one of the "lucky" byproducts of the long-liners?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063929&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="622IeubKq3ZmBIJetTywIZJWAkGeW79t4HLM3W_Duq0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">scottb (not verified)</span> on 12 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063929">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="134" id="comment-2063930" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226493404"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>they're being long-lined, as you mentioned, but i don't think they are bycatch (well, not always). however, the author suggests that marlin are a good substitute because they are very fast growing and also are prolific breeders.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063930&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5_4BAOvts_bkJKxG27xTcY3bw7LNyx50aC8Yq2Pjihg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a> on 12 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063930">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/grrlscientist"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/grrlscientist" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/Hedwig%20P%C3%B6ll%C3%B6l%C3%A4inen.jpeg?itok=-pOoqzmB" width="58" height="58" alt="Profile picture for user grrlscientist" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063931" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226502673"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Disclaimer - I'm not a fisheries expert but I was a marine biology major and used to work in the sport fishing industry during college summers.</p> <p>I think it would be difficult to have a commercial marlin fishery without affecting sailfish as they reside in almost the exact same locations. Sport fishermen certainly don't restrict one vs. the other.</p> <p>Living near Ocean City MD (promoted as The White Marlin Capital of the World!), I know that they have gone to great lengths to promote catch and release of all the local billfish species (mostly white and blue marlin and some sailfish). Swordfish are rarely caught there by sportfishing anymore.</p> <p>I've tasted marlin several times and I didn't think it was very good except once when it was smoked.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063931&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="UwGhhFAJQfAiIYuBmKbtSyl9inhBXEo-ANplr9RS2cg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">scottb (not verified)</span> on 12 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063931">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063932" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226565643"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I also really enjoyed Grescoe's book -- it was eye-opening and entertaining, and I'll never think about the seafood I eat the same way again. In our most recent Oceana newsletter, we did a Q&amp;A with Grescoe, and I put an excerpt of the interview on our blog. Check it out, his answers are as thoughtful as you'd expect. </p> <p>Q&amp;A: <a href="http://community.oceana.org/blog/2008/11/q-taras-grescoe">http://community.oceana.org/blog/2008/11/q-taras-grescoe</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063932&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0jOCl5sgBrs3dkZSh0y2-ylSFbJtbXC5mEcCG3XgW2k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://community.oceana.org" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Emily (not verified)</a> on 13 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063932">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063933" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226567294"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Haven't read the book but your comment about his oyster farm struck a sour note. I live on a beautiful island in BC right on Baynes Sound which is apparently a perfect place to farm oysters. The shores of the island are mostly taken up with foreshore leases that restict access to the water. The floats that the farmers use for their deep water endeavors are incredibly ugly and lose plastic trays and trash into the water constantly. Last year, on our annual "beach cleanup day" over 1 TON of trash just from the oyster farms was recovered. That was just on our island - think of the debris piling up downstream. I guess it is a matter of degree, too much of anything can be detrimental. Don't even get me started on the geoduck farming!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063933&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fEU9vYd-Q0g0vBL4N8MoWNTRtX3qpGs2SqFzFiqK9zw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Stevec (not verified)</span> on 13 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063933">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063934" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226567980"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Forgot something - Not to belabor the issue but transient Orcas and harbour porpoises get caught in the anchor chains also. Will read the book though 'cause I do love seafood - thanks for the tip!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063934&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="dtEOuOLU7Kqd5Dj71xEA-eh6Ghx51GQElwMaHbgRjj8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Stevec (not verified)</span> on 13 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063934">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063935" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226580728"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>By not eating Orange Roughy you don't save it from being eaten, you just make it a teensy bit cheaper for gazillions of Chinese to eat it. They thank you!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063935&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PiqvpEWeNsAiBev_B9lmIodwo4qt3zsHep2VI6GTYFk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bob (not verified)</span> on 13 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063935">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063936" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226591576"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Geoducks taste good (or have good taste): See "Fallen Angels Used Books," June 27, 2003. Geoducks were abundant on the East Coast in the Miocene. I collected one as a Middle Miocene fossil from the Choptank formation exposed just downstream from Jones Wharf along the Patuxent River in Maryland when I was a kid.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063936&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bwKLsKq_cmlbRbd8tOj7jGO5YehJz0W1nqQyWLEUzV4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">biosparite (not verified)</span> on 13 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063936">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063937" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226594159"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>On the plus side farmed oysters can be bought cheap for about 75 cents each in bulk just from the market. If you have a resellers license I bet you can bet them for 50 cents or less. Yummy roasted oysters. Oysters Rockefeller.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063937&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="I01p7m8Vo2f2qV3lgwvaBmjCW-n6JYByvJhf_gM_WcE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Phil (not verified)</span> on 13 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063937">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063938" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226638646"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>But killing any <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3247689/Fish-should-be-rebranded-as-sea-kittens.html">sea kitten</a> is cruel! </p> <p>My favourite are tinned mackerel fillets, am I going to have to stop eating those too?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063938&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="jitlYjCp2SCEueZC04-8Q21Nmmuef-zq3Tvz85J3Dto"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">chemniste (not verified)</span> on 13 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063938">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063939" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226648706"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>There's a simple way to get fresh fish without relying on commercial fishing practices. Fish for yourself!</p> <p>Last week I caught 4 nice Spanish mackerel for the cost of $3- for a parking pass. We netted the bait and caught more than we could handle, only keeping the 4 for dinner. The bait was scaled and spanish sardines, which we could have kept and eaten had the mackerel not been in a biting mood.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063939&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NfA4jRb-DZzMK19ENt0mqkX33v_N-bsczDITmv0hk2I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Scott D. (not verified)</span> on 14 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063939">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063940" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226943501"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The popularity of seafood seems to be rising along with awareness of the health problems associated with meat consumption, not to mention the horrors of livestock production gradually.</p> <p>But commercial fishing, as you and others note, is horrible in its own ways. I'm glad more people are coming around to a hands-off attitude toward endangered ocean species. Hopefully it's not too late. I hope more people also begin to realize that for all the attention seafood has received as a health-promoting food that offers a lower-cholesterol source of protein, it still packs plenty of cholesterol as well as other stuff people don't want, like heavy metals and other pollutants.</p> <p>If Omega 3 fatty acids are what you're after, there's no better and cleaner source than flaxseed.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063940&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RtklopK38vq7oIQWNolBp4XQK9CZ53pJQGGI3GJ0lJE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Spine (not verified)</span> on 17 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063940">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063941" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226959044"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"If Omega 3 fatty acids are what you're after, there's no better and cleaner source than flaxseed."<br /> I disagree on that point, as not all Omega-3s are created equally. Flax contains ALA, which requires the human body to process it into the more usable DHA, whereas oily fish contain DHA already.<br /> That being said, ALA is very, very good (and sustainable); just not as good as DHA per se.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063941&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Jv4RCD_ysvKY1PTLNowwzMyWO1DjhPrEommcUVTm9K4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Keith (not verified)</span> on 17 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063941">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063942" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226968233"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Fabulous review. I'm glad to see you have this book as your must read book of the year. I had a hint the oceans were being depleted but I was primarily clueless until reading Bottomfeeder. I know TG lists numerous types of seafood that can be eaten lavishly but I don't have the stomach for it thinking of the destruction to the ocean. A couple of notes: The Monterey Bay Aquarium has also recently produced a pocket size sushi guide for eating sustainable fish. An interesting little twist. And in regards to the Omega 3 fatty acids in fish, especially salmon, it's important to note that farmed salmon (which are hell on the environment) don't have the same quality of Omega 3 as wild salmon. A fact that seems largely overlooked. Thanks again for a great post.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063942&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1jr4GRUuJAEP31fiP0RB8tRQTxVlEoiepR9Lo3F6AmY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://kaleforsale.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Katrina (not verified)</a> on 17 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063942">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2063943" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1226969254"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I enjoyed Bottomfeeder as well. Another thing you should try and do is to eat lower on the food chain to reduce the <a href="http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com/2008/07/fish-footprints.html">fishprint</a> of the fish you eat.</p> <p>It takes 100 times as much resources/plankton/ocean acreage to produce 1 lb of tuna as it does to produce 1 lb of scallops. If we ate lower on the food chain, there would be lots more seafood for all of us to eat. Switch from eating tuna fish to sardines and you cut your footprint by 86%.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2063943&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="sOpfZ_2XDyuxGfN89ScoPwpwGqcPaibyeJMaBdMPtPQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Fat Knowledge (not verified)</a> on 17 Nov 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2063943">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2008/11/12/bottomfeeder%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:59:59 +0000 grrlscientist 87902 at https://scienceblogs.com Mangrove Destruction Magnified Burmese Tragedy https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/05/07/mangrove-destruction-magnified <span>Mangrove Destruction Magnified Burmese Tragedy</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/environment" rel="tag">Environment</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/cyclone+nargis" rel="tag">Cyclone Nargis</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/myanmar" rel="tag">Myanmar</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Burma" rel="tag">Burma</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Mangrove" rel="tag">Mangrove</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Rhizophora+species" rel="tag">Rhizophora species</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Shrimp+Farming" rel="tag">Shrimp Farming</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Fish+Farming" rel="tag">Fish Farming</a></span></p> <div class="centeredCaption"> <p><a target="window" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/84727393@N00/2474055349/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/2474055349_7ca9db0107.jpg" width="500" height="375" /></a></p> <p>Mangrove, <i>Rhizophora</i> species, in Cuba. [<a target="window" href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2133/2474055349_e8584e45b7_o.jpg" width="800" height="600">larger view</a>]. </p> </div> <p>I've written about the importance of <a target="window" href="http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2006/02/tsunamis_and_mangroves_the_shr.php">mangrove forests</a> before, and about the environmental disasters and human tragedies that result when they are wantonly destroyed. Unfortunately, as we are witnessing now, the widespread destruction of Burma's mangroves has magnified yet another human disaster in the wake of cyclone Nargis, a tragedy that might have claimed more than 100,000 lives, according to some news services' estimates. </p> <!--more--><p>"Encroachment into mangrove forests, which used to serve as a buffer between the rising tide, between big waves and storms and residential areas; all those lands have been destroyed," said Surin Pitsuwan, secretary-general for the Association of South-East Asian Nations (ASEAN). </p> <p>Even though Cyclone Nargis was a strong storm, with winds clocked at 190km/h (120mph), it was the storm's surge that caused the most damage and death. </p> <p>"The wave was up to 12 feet (3.5 meters) high and it swept away and inundated half the houses in low-lying villages," said Burma's minister for relief and resettlement, Maung Maung Swe. "They did not have anywhere to flee." </p> <div class="centeredCaption"> <p><a target="window" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/84727393@N00/2474055267/"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2195/2474055267_1de5a78354_o.jpg" width="417" height="550" /></a></p> <p>Images from a NASA satellite show the impact of Cyclone Nargis on southern Burma. Before it hit, on 15 April (top image), features are sharply defined. In the aftermath on 5 May (bottom image), much of the Irrawaddy river delta region is clearly flooded.</p> </div> <p>Mangroves are a group of salt-tolerant evergreens that grow in tropical and subtropical areas where ever marine and fresh water meet; coastlines, deltas and rivers. Mangroves form a dense forest with an extensive root system that buffers residential areas and farms against the effects of storms, tsunamis, freak ocean waves and rising tides. However, mangroves are under pressure from humans who eagerly rip them out and replace them with shrimp and fish farms, as seen throughout southeast Asia and other coastal regions of the world. </p> <p>Unfortunately, Burma's mangroves suffered as a result of being overexploited. A recent United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) study reported that 3.6 million hectares (35%) of all mangrove forests were destroyed since 1980. The study also pointed out that Asia had suffered the greatest loss, with the destruction of more than 1.9 million hectares. </p> <p>"There are very limited areas that you would describe as pristine or densely covered mangrove in the Irrawaddy area," said Mette Wilkie, a senior forestry officer for the FAO, referring to the region of Burma where Cyclone Nagris first made landfall. </p> <p>These mangroves were replaced with fish and shrimp farms, and were also destroyed to meet the demands of tourism and of large populations of people living along coastlines. </p> <p>"The impact is so severe because of the increase of the population," observed Pitsuwan.</p> <p>As I found in early 2005 when I was writing about the tsunami that killed roughly 200,000 people (more than half of them in Indonesia alone);</p> <blockquote><p>The protective qualities of mangroves were .. observed in 1999 when a cyclone in the Bay of Bengal claimed more than 10,000 lives and washed away several coastal villages in the state of Orissa on India's eastern coast. This was one of the worst cyclones in history with winds of 160 miles per hour. However, amidst all the damages, it was noted that villages in and around neighboring Bhitarkanika were spared much of the cyclone's fury: Bhitarkanika is the second largest mangrove forest in India. [<a target="window" href="http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2006/02/tsunamis_and_mangroves_the_shr.php">ref</a>]. </p></blockquote> <p>This cyclone was a terrible event, but the needless loss of mangroves worsened the cost in human lives lost and widespread damage to property and much-needed agricultural areas. We not only need to help the thousands of survivors in their time of need, but we also must help replant the mangroves in Burma and elsewhere to prevent tragedies that will inevitably occur in the future. </p> <p><b>Sources</b></p> <p><a target="window" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7385315.stm">BBCNews</a> (quotes)</p> <p><a target="window" href="http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2006/02/tsunamis_and_mangroves_the_shr.php">Mangroves and Tsunamis: The Shrimp Connection</a> -- Lots of background!</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Wed, 05/07/2008 - 13:32</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/environment" hreflang="en">environment</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/burma" hreflang="en">burma</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/coastlines" hreflang="en">coastlines</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cyclone-nargis" hreflang="en">cyclone nargis</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fish-farming" hreflang="en">Fish Farming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/irrawaddy-delta" hreflang="en">Irrawaddy delta</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mangrove" hreflang="en">mangrove</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/myanmar" hreflang="en">myanmar</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/shrimp-farming" hreflang="en">shrimp farming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/environment" hreflang="en">environment</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060478" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1210245083"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Nicely said.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060478&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="84HJxwjqXzWEAgc2m8cuwo5qgp65lvOyBf6_lyQ56X0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ian (not verified)</span> on 08 May 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2060478">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060479" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1210317780"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I don't see that what you've blogged here justifies the title of the blog: "Mangrove Destruction Magnified Burmese Tragedy"!</p> <p>Yes, we're destroying important parts of the natural world, but as Pitsuwan observed, "The impact is so severe because of the increase of the population" - not because the mangroves were gone.</p> <p>The impact was awful because large numbers of people lived on the coast and because they had no warning. I don't see that even if all the mangroves had been left in place, they would have stopped a 12 foot storm surge from doing what it did.</p> <p>Which part of the destruction was magnified because the mangroves had been hacked down?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060479&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3tAvjlGJAB52QBoVYe1UsOJ5HeWaAYIahb4PTekRitI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ian (not verified)</span> on 09 May 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2060479">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060480" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1210563201"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ian,</p> <p>Please read <a href="http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dPLzt5uyNAcC&amp;pg=PA345&amp;lpg=PA345&amp;dq=mangrove+erosion+protection&amp;source=web&amp;ots=SM-0NOh9FA&amp;sig=r8n7E9LQUQjBroiqTbS6SDr1soc&amp;hl=en">http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=dPLzt5uyNAcC&amp;pg=PA345&amp;lpg=PA345&amp;dq=m…</a></p> <p>Mangrove helps mitigate tidal surges by absorbing the force of the waves, similar to bullrushes in rivers.</p> <p>So without the mangroves the full force of the surge is unleashed on the low lying coastal plains and can travel further inland.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060480&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VAgF95p-U80L7HYlHgg-4dNTqq78nWut7dsWeOyeieU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris&#039; Wills (not verified)</span> on 11 May 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2060480">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060481" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1210658283"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Chris -</p> <p>Your reference was to a book which involved digging through a score of pages in small print to try find the possible reference you want me to look at. I'll look again when I have time.</p> <p>It seems like all the articles I've read on this matter have someone say words to the effect: "it wouldn't have been as bad if the mangroves had been preserved", but no one offers any actual support for this claim.</p> <p>OTOH, we have articles like this:<br /> <a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-11/17/content_7093869.htm">http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-11/17/content_7093869.htm</a><br /> which show that even where mangroves were in place, the surge killed in large numbers, so I think my question still stands: was it the lack of mangroves or was it more likely that thousands of people lived on the coast and had no warning?</p> <p>I think the issue is accented by Patsuwan's comment that an increase in the coastal population was the root cause. Whether the mangroves would have mitigated this in view of that situation is what's at issue in my mind.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060481&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FXhpijocwv_1j6xxEBevauMJC9aBR1tuHjnNOS07lWk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ian (not verified)</span> on 13 May 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2060481">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2060482" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1210742073"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ian,</p> <p>Apologies for the font size in the book, it was the only online version I could find.</p> <p>The links below are to other sites discussing the mitigation effect of mangroves.</p> <p>The mangroves won't stop the tide/surge/tidal wave but they do absorb a lot of the force.</p> <p>Similar coastal defences are manmade such as sea walls.</p> <p>Yes, massive populations on coastal plains adds to the death toll and this is why so many died (same percentage dead so larger population means more affected).</p> <p>As for warnings. Well, as the plain is kilometeres wide and transport is limited, I'm not sure that would have help much.</p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://www.financialexpress.com/old/fe_full_story.php?content_id=79926">http://www.financialexpress.com/old/fe_full_story.php?content_id=79926</a><br /> Let's see how the mangroves have mitigated the damages. Nias island in Indonesia is close to the epicentre of December 26 Tsunami. The damage here was less on account of mangroves. The damage done in Pichavaram and Nuthupet (having mangrove cover) in Tamil Nadu is very low.<br /> In 1960 when tidal waves hit Bangladesh coast where mangroves were intact, there was not a single loss of human life. But after the destruction of mangroves when a tidal wave hit the same in 1991, thousands of people lost their lives. The mangroves of Bhiterkanika in Orissa could mitigate the effects of Super Cyclone of October 1999</p> <p><a href="http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag178.htm">http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag178.htm</a><br /> Although advanced hurricane forecasts and timely coastal evacuations can save lives, the potential threat of hurricanes to property poses a much greater challenge. Ironically, natural buffers like offshore barrier islands, coral reef, mangrove forests and other coastal vegetation that are often damaged or destroyed to make way for coastal development are also the best defense against storm surge. NOAA is involved in a number of coastal restoration activities, including rebuilding and preserving coastal wetlands.</p> <p><a href="http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/jan102008/14.pdf">http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/jan102008/14.pdf</a></p> <p><a href="http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0513-hance_mangroves.html">http://news.mongabay.com/2008/0513-hance_mangroves.html</a><br /> According to recent studies, mangrove forests act as a buffer against the effect's of tropical storms like Nagris, though scientists don't yet fully understand the relationship between storm mitigation and mangroves. </p></blockquote> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2060482&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RPepe6nUp8KKekVZGHq1GRPUIUq6qSabl4ON14PpaQw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris&#039; Wills (not verified)</span> on 14 May 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23185/feed#comment-2060482">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2008/05/07/mangrove-destruction-magnified%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 07 May 2008 17:32:41 +0000 grrlscientist 86973 at https://scienceblogs.com