insanity https://scienceblogs.com/ en Magic Mormon Underwear https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2010/07/18/magic-mormon-underwear <span>Magic Mormon Underwear</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Mormonism" rel="tag">Mormonism</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/religion" rel="tag">religion</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/cults" rel="tag">cults</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/mind+control" rel="tag">mind control</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Magic+Mormon+Underwear" rel="tag">Magic Mormon Underwear</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/moron" rel="tag">moron</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/offbeat" rel="tag">offbeat</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/humor" rel="tag">humor</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/funny" rel="tag">funny</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/comedy" rel="tag">comedy</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/silly" rel="tag">silly</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/beliefs" rel="tag">beliefs</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/insanity" rel="tag">insanity</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/education" rel="tag">education</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/streaming+video" rel="tag">streaming video</a></span></p> <p>I've lived among mormons for more years than I care to think about, and yes, the magic underwear was one of those mysteries that us kids speculated on when the adults weren't around. As if they were flies upon the walls of my childhood, the Thinking Atheist has made this video that discusses the the Mormon church's most famous "secret."</p> <!--more--><object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6cbfgmorIGE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1?rel=0" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6cbfgmorIGE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1?showinfo=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object></div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Sun, 07/18/2010 - 00:59</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/behavior" hreflang="en">behavior</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/humor" hreflang="en">humor</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/politics" hreflang="en">Politics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/satire" hreflang="en">satire</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/your-inner-child" hreflang="en">your inner child</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/beliefs" hreflang="en">beliefs</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/comedy" hreflang="en">comedy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cults" hreflang="en">cults</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/education" hreflang="en">education</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/funny" hreflang="en">funny</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/insanity" hreflang="en">insanity</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/magic-mormon-underwear" hreflang="en">Magic Mormon Underwear</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mind-control" hreflang="en">mind control</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mormonism" hreflang="en">mormonism</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/moron" hreflang="en">moron</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/offbeat" hreflang="en">offbeat</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/silly" hreflang="en">silly</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-video" hreflang="en">streaming video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/video" hreflang="en">Video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/behavior" hreflang="en">behavior</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/humor" hreflang="en">humor</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/politics" hreflang="en">Politics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/satire" hreflang="en">satire</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/your-inner-child" hreflang="en">your inner child</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2076500" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1279440324"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I never realised how much Mormonism had in common with Freemasonry. (But then I've never really paid a lot of attention to the details of the LDS.)</p> <p>I'm not a big fan of the Masons, so they hae that in common too. Secret societies seem like a dodgy idea to me. There were a lot of allegations of local government corruption here in the past centred around Masons. Not directly due to the organisation itself; rather that people who are members of the same secret society are placed in a position to get up to mischief. Much like membership of an exclusive golf club, only a bit more extreme.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2076500&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_tqYKklEanlseg2BHkIClQwkfJU_pZx-i6ZoBMeQVy8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">SimonG (not verified)</span> on 18 Jul 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2076500">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2076501" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1279441792"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I don't understand why you have to bleep any fucking thing out.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2076501&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FgCub2wai0sUgMbBlcnHJnicZllmSK5-BEE071zetbw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Durfus McGrew (not verified)</span> on 18 Jul 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2076501">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2076502" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1279452727"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Simon G at #1:</p> <blockquote><p>I'm not a big fan of the Masons, so they hae that in common too. Secret societies seem like a dodgy idea to me.</p></blockquote> <p>To give secret societies their due, they only seem like a dodgy idea from the viewpoint of an open society - but they originated in Europe in the age of Absolutism. In those days of blasphemy and lese majeste laws, many forward-looking ideas could only be discussed in secret or strict privacy and a good deal of the seminal thinking of the Enlightenment originated from secret societies (naturally, not all of the secret societies were progressive think-tanks, though - there were also enough that were conservative, mystical, irrelevant or outright scams). So let's not call them a bad idea, let's just call them a good idea whose day has passed.</p> <p>What differentiates the Mormons from the Masons, though, and makes them more problematic in my view, is their strictly hierarchical organization. Masonic lodges are mostly independent, so their specific nature varies wildly from lodge to lodge - some (probably most) are harmless social gatherings, some are power networks, and a few have been outright criminal (like the Italian lodge P2). The Mormon Church, by contrast, is completely hierarchical and authoritarian in structure, even if it's not particularly large - so when the wrong people are in charge, they can do a lot of damage.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2076502&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4Ys5mt1a6PCvmlrVXHAhs7ifbVKi6TWhvvuPwAFt_es"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Phillip IV (not verified)</span> on 18 Jul 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2076502">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2076503" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1279457121"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yes, keeping yourself secret is a lot more reasonable when the powers that be really are out to get you. It's hard to argue with that and I could see secrecy being important even today in some nations.</p> <p>Heirarchical structures - like the Mormons, as you say, and many other churches - are always dangerous. I think that some of the Mormons' problems come <i>because</i> they're not very large. A larger organisation would be liable to dissent and schism: the Mormon leadership can exercise tight control.</p> <p>Imagine how bad the RCC would be if the Pope and his pals had the same degree of control.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2076503&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JjOjdOhb3lU9KQCPzjMpFoLByO3lgIBli-FXhs4X3TI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">SimonG (not verified)</span> on 18 Jul 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2076503">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2076504" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1279464652"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"the Mormon leadership can exercise tight control."</p> <p>How exactly, besides the consent of the governed? Its not like the LDS Church has any policing or political power over individuals to leave and form their own Church if they are so inclined. For that matter, to leave the church altogether. Lots of people do. The biggest problem would be family and peer pressure, but what groups don't have that? Maybe you could say there was some power over membership during the formative years, but currently that is nonsense.</p> <p>And if you think the secret LDS Temples are in any way places to make secret plans and alliances, then its obvious you have no idea what takes place in them. And I mean facts about them that aren't secret that could explain how stupid such an idea can be. Every minute of the Temple is occupied by religious devotions and rituals. Once those end there is a short space of time for reflection, but that usually lasts at most ten minutes before moving on for the next group. If the Mormons are a "secret society," then its a very poor one because the membership is pretty open about who they are. As for recognizing each other by some things done in the Temple? If a Mormon was to mimic anything outside the Temple related to it, then they would be called out for blaspheme of the sacred. As for the sacred garment, again its not hidden. Ask a Mormon if they are wearing a garment and they will be honest about it and tell you yes or no. In fact, its not that hard to tell if they are if you know someone is Mormon.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2076504&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="DOoGTOf-9q33H1m5EehUazxJ38QTeBXwpBXzAO9QLNw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jettboy (not verified)</span> on 18 Jul 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2076504">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2076505" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1279527805"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Jettboy: You seem rather defensive. I didn't say that the Mormons are especially secretive, just that they have some ritual elements in common with the Masons, who are.</p> <p>As for the element of control, peer pressure can be extremely powerful. There is also the element of education, (ask a Jesuit). And whilst such forces can (and do) apply to other religions and churches the Mormons seem to be particularly intollerent of dissenting opinions.</p> <p>As I tried to point out, the RCC is probably just as intollerent of unapproved ideas but being so much larger it is unable to exercise the same degree of control.</p> <p>I think that the issue of recruitment is also important. The RCC, like many churches actively recruits new members. These members will come from a wide variety of different backgrounds and will have grown up with similarly varied educations and opinions. The impression I get is that the Mormons recruit a lot less and a larger proportions of their membership are descended from a long line of Mormons. These people will have grown up in the church and so be much more susceptile to the church's sway.</p> <p>Frankly, if the Mormon leadership wasn't able to exercise tight control I think the religion would largely die out in a couple of generationa as no sane woman would want anything to do with them, given a truly free choice.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2076505&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="YbFeoI-NcGQYFNt3rVjbaw6_VWpJH86brdwrLGuDG1c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">SimonG (not verified)</span> on 19 Jul 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2076505">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2010/07/18/magic-mormon-underwear%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:59:04 +0000 grrlscientist 91072 at https://scienceblogs.com Mormons and their Magic Underwear https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2010/02/14/mormons-and-their-magic-underw <span>Mormons and their Magic Underwear</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Mormonism" rel="tag">Mormonism</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/religion" rel="tag">religion</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/cults" rel="tag">cults</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/mind+control" rel="tag">mind control</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/magic+underwear" rel="tag">magic underwear</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/moron" rel="tag">moron</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/offbeat" rel="tag">offbeat</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/beliefs" rel="tag">beliefs</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/insanity" rel="tag">insanity</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/education" rel="tag">education</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/streaming+video" rel="tag">streaming video</a></span></p> <p>In some denominations of the Latter Day Saint cult, the temple garment (also referred to as "garments", or "Mormon underwear") is worn beneath the clothing of those who have taken part in the Endowment ceremony. Mormon underwear are worn both day and night and are required for any previously endowed adult to enter a church temple.The undergarments are viewed as a symbolic reminder of the sacred covenants made in temple ceremonies, and are viewed as an either symbolic or literal source of protection from the evils of the world. </p> <!--more--><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3eNjTUz7TJs&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3eNjTUz7TJs&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;showinfo=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Sat, 02/13/2010 - 23:59</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mental-health" hreflang="en">mental health</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/your-inner-child" hreflang="en">your inner child</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/beliefs" hreflang="en">beliefs</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cults" hreflang="en">cults</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/education" hreflang="en">education</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/insanity" hreflang="en">insanity</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/magic-underwear" hreflang="en">magic underwear</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mind-control" hreflang="en">mind control</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mormonism" hreflang="en">mormonism</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/moron" hreflang="en">moron</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/offbeat" hreflang="en">offbeat</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-video" hreflang="en">streaming video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/video" hreflang="en">Video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mental-health" hreflang="en">mental health</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/your-inner-child" hreflang="en">your inner child</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073282" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266138068"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Rather like the Kachera worn by Sikhs as part of the 5 K's?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073282&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ju4jut40aRCgYe3N35mi_v65-z5MdyqwjP8SpR-0j-0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Simon (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073282">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073283" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266140983"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The shooting test was unrealistic. The Mormon undies work their magic only when worn by an endowed adult. I suggest running around Salt Lake City whacking adults on the ass with a two-by-four. They cannot claim assault if protected by divine intervention.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073283&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RgMGzfLZsWAdbUyZvWKbPAD_IO7iq-7O__6yX7BJpZ8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ken Shabby (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073283">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="134" id="comment-2073284" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266143009"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>hrm. interesting test, ken.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073284&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yMI2GVhZSPZe4w4mQT15KYlZGWzVvynTcVp7jqz20V0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073284">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/grrlscientist"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/grrlscientist" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/Hedwig%20P%C3%B6ll%C3%B6l%C3%A4inen.jpeg?itok=-pOoqzmB" width="58" height="58" alt="Profile picture for user grrlscientist" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073285" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266163712"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Simon @ No.1:</p> <blockquote><p>Rather like the Kachera worn by Sikhs as part of the 5 K's?</p></blockquote> <p>Rather worse, actually - as far as I know, the Kachera has never been claimed to have any but symbolic meaning, while a good deal of Mormons ascribe sacredness or even physical powerfulness to the temple garments (the Church's official teachings are -likely deliberately- vague on the issue..,). Plus, in the case of the Kachera there's at least a direct link between function and spiritual symbolism, in the case of the temple garments the symbolism is only abstract.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073285&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="s06gY7GqWtvQhw6nrpp8ZQI1Rwa_WkC_AgNJcD0BNa8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Phillip IV (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073285">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073286" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266165557"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Or wait, perhaps these things <i>do</i> work, after all - they're supposed to ward off evil, and they <i>did</i> prevent Mitt Romney's candidacy. Go, temple garments!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073286&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Ja8jFhIabOECN_x-loSCKU0iwHJ0Mt7_TQ5jMXTcKoA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Phillip IV (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073286">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073287" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266175625"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow..."cult"..."Magic"...pretty thoughtful and considerate post there. I wonder, do you even know any Mormons?</p> <p>The "literal" "magic" you claim is something that has stemmed from a comment made by Mr. Marriott during a 60 minutes interview in the 70's. Some (and I emphasize "some") people do believe that. But that is NOT the doctrine as taught by the church. The garments are entirely symbolic in nature. Their only "magic" is in their ability to remind an individual of the covenants they have made and help them to make choices that conform to those covenants.</p> <p>I ask this: are the "magic" properties espoused by some any different than those that believe in rituals or clothing to promote good luck (think of your most devout sports fan and a good many players - especially in baseball where ritual plays a significant role)?</p> <p>Honestly - a little more research on your part, or even a little more careful thought and this begins to look as offensive as it really is.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073287&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uI40oGSF2WHvH4o0LRkM021HTY6jgPFlZiolH_Q32kQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jared (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073287">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073288" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266177996"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>They may be endowed but are they well-endowed?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073288&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="gvFvQH34kSOLAmM17XPj_6Ba5nIs6HfqYN0BxFucVYU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rob Jase (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073288">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073289" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266178635"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>BTW, I would welcome any even-handed and non-prejudice/narrow-minded discussion of this subject. Feel free to comment or ask anything you like. I'll respond in the best way I can.</p> <p>I'm always open for those interested in learning more - even it if is just for the sake of strictly information.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073289&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="A76oj-dR8esxbhB6lQCBpEa5WSk_Mjx0nGHjShu1GC8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jared (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073289">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073290" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266186663"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>cult? I resemble that snobbery...haha. Anyway, this shows an ignorance of history and culture, of which I have a degree in and am also former Methodist now Mormon, so asking the source first hand is always a better deal. Most culture do not consider themselves to be "cultish" Most cultures have symbolic aprons, robes, sashes, caps, tartans, or in the case of natives, symbolic relics to remin them of their beliefs. Mormons are Christians but beleive in a Christ for the entire world, and universe, not just for the Middle East. We beleive he visited many lands, and chose other apostles and there are many writings as you cannpt limit God though many try to limit his works and words."Other sheep do I have,which are not of this fold and I must bring them also and they will become one flock with one shepherd." JOhn 10:16 Then there is the question of God and miracles, can faith heal? Can belief cause reality? This you will have to discover for yourself.I believe God is a God of Intelligence, compassion, yet order and justice, or nature and the heavens would be in chaos.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073290&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="u2HW5FTZksRVMNYyb_L85EFUjBXfhgYTvK7kYHOlzAg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DesViking (not verified)</span> on 14 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073290">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073291" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266218597"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>DesViking #8</p> <p>Wait, you have a degree in culture? Guess you must have missed the myriad classes concerned with what is or is not appropriate language or value judgment so it must be alright for you to use the term "natives" for those peoples you imply are less civilised or at least wear clothes... and by the way, the only symbology attached to tartan is that introduced by American state or Canadian provincial authorities- any battle or agricultural or social associations is a modern artifice of non-Celtic/Gaelic origins...how pathetically inept and prejudiced! A degree in History, culture? Right...</p> <p>"asking the source first hand"- who, you? How utterly arrogant and self-aggrandizing- perhaps you should join the Marines ("be all you can be"- but wait, if my soldiers went off on their own we'd all be off mission and get shot, so maybe that's not a good idea) or perhaps the Methodist, no, make it the Mormon Church... so much for all being members of the same body...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073291&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Z_SXmb4JDsk91kmBcB17Xx23QpxxiLvCkqyaf6p8eZE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Copernicus (not verified)</span> on 15 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073291">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073292" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266240418"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Most Mormons, myself included, view the protection as merely a bit of spiritual symbolism meant to serve as a reminder of our commitment to God.</p> <p>We don't think they stop bullets.</p> <p>Once again, the secularists prove themselves unable to deal with religion - except in its stupidest and most caricatured form.</p> <p>As for the word "cult" - it's an utterly useless word in polite conversation. It really means nothing more than "that religion I don't like."</p> <p>Seriously, does this blog just put on the stupid hat any time Mormonism is a topic?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073292&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZU6eb_n1ypxIwWmqGZFMnbloUOPidwp3ZtZ13bCsozI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nine-moons.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Seth R. (not verified)</a> on 15 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073292">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073293" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266253748"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Seriously, does this blog just put on the stupid hat any time Mormonism is a topic?</p></blockquote> <p>Given that there is hardly a stupider thing than belief in a mythical sky fairy, and that Mormons take that belief and make it even stupider, it's not the blog that is putting on the stupid hat</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073293&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Se7LdMzYqth_RWqJktGqzLTWN1k8jVbMflYD-5CfiQw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thealders.net/blogs" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Doug Alder (not verified)</a> on 15 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073293">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073294" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266253941"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Given Mahr's support of the fully discredited MMR --&gt; autism debacle he should really hold his tongue on calling others silly.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073294&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="mvz6JYRJJBkfFPsVaPr-ZJk8E3h6Gjhd4zibXnAL8pY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thealders.net/blogs" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Doug Alder (not verified)</a> on 15 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073294">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073295" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266301431"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If the garments are symbolic only, then why have prominent Mormons (one a senator) made pubic claims of their supernatural protective properties? Are these Mormons misinformed or do public (what Mormons tell others) and private (what Mormons tell themselves) Mormon statements differ?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073295&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="am0UPApVe7iPrBGSmopEC94AWLv9jdgnNgOWnH0U9k8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ron Crossland (not verified)</span> on 16 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073295">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073296" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266304398"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>LOL @ Ron, you certainly have them by the "short and curlies"- I assume they made <i>pubic</i> claims because funnily enough it's totally supported by the forensic evidence!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073296&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="QJGhH6HXEaBn98KMz0C5X2k1O9WJ4Qb3tUQfGCIgkXw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Copernicus (not verified)</span> on 16 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073296">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073297" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266318101"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ron Crossland: So, statements by "prominent members (one a senator)" should be considered authoritative? Really? So, I should take the statements of any senator who belongs to any particular group as authoritative no matter what? Or if someone is "prominent" I should also believe their statements as completely authoritative?</p> <p>Heck of a straw-man there.</p> <p>You are also confusing both the language and the idea of "supernatural" protection with "super-powered" protection. </p> <p>However, despite all of that, it is fairly obvious that ANYTHING that a religious person says will be denigrated and dismissed automatically and without consideration whatsoever simply because we believe in something that you do not.</p> <p>Consider also that quite a few "prominent" scientists and world leaders believe in a God of some sort (differing by strength of belief and religious persuasion)and have stated their beliefs both publicly and privately. By your argument earlier we should consider those beliefs and statements as authoritative evidence of veracity.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073297&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cAveqxrwMR3EuP1gBxxegUOLXVMK-ibUTgy3JoCe6hA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jared (not verified)</span> on 16 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073297">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073298" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266325487"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>My experience is that Mormons in general do not believe that temple garments offer physical protection, because 1) it really isn't taught and 2) virtually every Mormon knows someone who was injured or killed while wearing the garments. The garment "protects" in the same way a marriage ring protects one from infidelity--it reminds one that he/she has made a convenant. Does that protection operate independently of the free will of the individual? Nope. Are they really magic? Nope. Are they sacred? Yes, to the Mormon, because of the convenants they represent.</p> <p>Some Mormons may believe exaggerated claims of physical protection, just like some Catholics believe the crucifix offers physical protection, but that is not, in my experience, the rule.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073298&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wAfoqQ-WVb4jU-XUJIXXibkKsHTbThvCf2EATYsinwc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JimW (not verified)</span> on 16 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073298">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2073299" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266372197"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The L.D.S. church is not a cult.But thank you for posting the YouTube video,I never had much use for Bill M. before,no use for him at all now,what an ass............</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2073299&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wJ18AnafMgzTsWMc6jTmTXsg_5DeLSrB29bNlBmO1G8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mkay (not verified)</span> on 16 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2073299">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2010/02/14/mormons-and-their-magic-underw%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:59:34 +0000 grrlscientist 90385 at https://scienceblogs.com A Godless Comedy Look at Abraham and Isaac https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2009/09/20/a-godless-comedy-look-at-abrah <span>A Godless Comedy Look at Abraham and Isaac</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/religion" rel="tag">religion</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/violence" rel="tag">violence</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/mental+illness" rel="tag">mental illness</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/fundamentalism" rel="tag">fundamentalism</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Mitchell+and+Webb" rel="tag">Mitchell and Webb</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/streaming+video" rel="tag">streaming video</a></span></p> <p>This video is a Godless Comedy created by That Mitchell and Webb Look about the myth of Abraham and Isaac .. if an American did this today, he'd be placed in a mental institution for hearing voices that command him to murder his own son. Charming. </p> <!--more--><object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/YqC73omSk4o&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/YqC73omSk4o&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;showinfo=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object></div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Sat, 09/19/2009 - 23:59</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/humor" hreflang="en">humor</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mental-health" hreflang="en">mental health</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/satire" hreflang="en">satire</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/abraham" hreflang="en">abraham</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/hearing-voices" hreflang="en">hearing voices</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/human-sacrifice" hreflang="en">human sacrifice</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/insanity" hreflang="en">insanity</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/issac" hreflang="en">issac</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-video" hreflang="en">streaming video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/video" hreflang="en">Video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/humor" hreflang="en">humor</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mental-health" hreflang="en">mental health</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/satire" hreflang="en">satire</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2070008" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1253442124"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The story of God "testing" Abraham's faith always makes me think that Abraham missed a perfect opportunity to tell God to go screw himself. <a href="http://zenoferox.blogspot.com/2006/01/holy-homicide.html">[Link]</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2070008&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lGC12F6tRiRg9vPkUBcFxkwQVcNoRCPybdnV6PPsmdM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://zenoferox.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zeno (not verified)</a> on 20 Sep 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2070008">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2070009" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1253443904"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Brilliant! What gets me about this sketch is how sympathetic god is. He seems unsure of himself and a little puzzled as to why Abraham would so readily agree to his outlandish schemes. I wonder if all dictators start out this way?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2070009&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CaTXcbb1QowtvXkrIOphzaVQHNdTvHzpor3JUW9_HOE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Fred (not verified)</span> on 20 Sep 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/23898/feed#comment-2070009">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2009/09/20/a-godless-comedy-look-at-abrah%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:59:28 +0000 grrlscientist 89702 at https://scienceblogs.com Carnival of the Insanities Now Available https://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2007/09/02/carnival-of-the-insanities-now <span>Carnival of the Insanities Now Available</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><font size="-2">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/insanity" rel="tag">insanity</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/blog+carnivals" rel="tag">blog carnivals</a></font></p> <p>The <a target="window" href="http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/09/carnival-of-insanities.html">Labor Day edition</a> of <i>The Carnival of the Insanities</i> is now ready for you to enjoy. This carnival highlights the insane, the bizarre, the ridiculous, and the completely absurd are highlighted for you to read about. </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Sun, 09/02/2007 - 07:29</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/uncategorized" hreflang="en">Uncategorized</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/blog-carnivals" hreflang="en">Blog Carnivals</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/insanity" hreflang="en">insanity</a></div> </div> </div> <section> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2007/09/02/carnival-of-the-insanities-now%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:29:11 +0000 grrlscientist 85857 at https://scienceblogs.com