Blasphemy https://scienceblogs.com/ en Over in secular Europe https://scienceblogs.com/gnxp/2010/01/02/over-in-secular-europe <span>Over in secular Europe</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/01/irish-atheists-challenge-blasphemy-law">Irish atheists challenge new blasphemy laws</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>Secular campaigners in the Irish Republic defied a strict new blasphemy law which came into force today by publishing a series of anti-religious quotations online and promising to fight the legislation in court.</p> <p>The new law, which was passed in July, means that blasphemy in Ireland is now a crime punishable with a fine of up to â¬25,000 (£22,000).</p> <p>It defines blasphemy as "publishing or uttering matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters sacred by any religion, thereby intentionally causing outrage among a substantial number of adherents of that religion, with some defences permitted".</p> <p>The justice minister, Dermot Ahern, <b>said that the law was necessary because while immigration had brought a growing diversity of religious faiths</b>, the 1936 constitution extended the protection of belief only to Christians.</p></blockquote> <p>Speaking of religious diversity, over in Denmark, luckily an <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/02/world/europe/02denmark.html">Attempt to Kill Danish Cartoonist Fails</a>:</p> <blockquote><p> The police foiled an attempt to kill an artist who drew a cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad that sparked outrage in the Muslim world, the head of Denmark's intelligence service said Saturday.</p> <p>Jakob Scharf, who heads PET, the Danish intelligence service, said a 28-year-old Somalia man was armed with an ax and a knife when he tried to enter the home of the artist, Kurt Westergaard, in Aarhus on Friday evening.</p></blockquote> <p>Westergaard was home with his 5 year old granddaughter. It looks like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_People's_Party">Danish People's Party</a> might be subsidizing unhinged adherents of the Religion of Peace, because they're going to the primary beneficiaries of attempts to spread the barbaric mores of <a href="http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2009/12/cultures-of-restriction-islam-india-and.php">much of the Muslim world</a> in regards to anti-religious expression to the civilized world.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/razib" lang="" about="/author/razib" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">razib</a></span> <span>Fri, 01/01/2010 - 18:06</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/culture" hreflang="en">Culture</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/blasphemy" hreflang="en">Blasphemy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/europe" hreflang="en">Europe</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/islam" hreflang="en">Islam</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168326" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262394401"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Granddaughter, not daughter. Poor girl.</p> <p>Various local Muslim organizations have instantly done the right thing and denounced this. Good. They've learned.</p> <p>For some reason I don't think Dansk Folkeparti will abuse this incident -- it was already publically known that Westergaard had had to move around between safe houses + gotten PET training + often had PET body guards. The leader of that party also has PET body guards as have a Muslim politician from another party (because he dares criticize some Muslims and some Muslim practices).</p> <p>And again: poor little girl.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168326&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rNMEoudqdZDd3OVj3Tuk6FqcC7uAln-Zc85-tNrqe_M"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Peter Lund (Denmark) (not verified)</span> on 01 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168326">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168327" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262418381"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://digitalcuttlefish.blogspot.com/2010/01/danish-cartoonist-1-muhammad-0.html">http://digitalcuttlefish.blogspot.com/2010/01/danish-cartoonist-1-muham…</a></p> <p>I'd quote the whole thing here, but it is blasphemous, and I don't want the Religion of Peace coming after you with hammers.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168327&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kGI-jEDmwFTQDSylZsmub5CFHZ1BERpeEkoPC18sCy8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://digitalcuttlefish.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cuttlefish (not verified)</a> on 02 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168327">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168328" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262422105"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The Ten Commandments ("Thou shalt have no other gods before me.") blasphemes all religions except Judaism.</p> <p>Islam holds apostasy as an abomination, which blasphemes all religions except itself.</p> <p>Pot, kettle, black.</p> <p>BTW, Mohammad appears as a regular in the comic strip Jesus and Mo.</p> <p><a href="http://www.jesusandmo.net/">http://www.jesusandmo.net/</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168328&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zAgrmHUeTCVlhRoBVR_qcYMZLp0dFCSZMvh_DHtraPM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lemon Curry (not verified)</span> on 02 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168328">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168329" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262424965"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh! Oh! This is hilarious!</p> <p>So instead of getting rid of the blasphemy law, Dermot Ahern extends it to everyone else!</p> <p>Dermot Ahern can suck a fat one.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168329&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CnacEkFnVLFCQvU4aIHbAo_f4ead82QetTeRwPTIRV4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Katharine (not verified)</span> on 02 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168329">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168330" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262434641"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>the Religion of Peace</p></blockquote> <p>The "peace" of the grave.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168330&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_27T6tfVxir5gZg7VK7AY0xtzonjf68J4TSGFf6SHhY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Afterthought (not verified)</span> on 02 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168330">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168331" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262448850"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Fuck blasphemy laws.</p> <p>In fact, fuck god while He fucks the pope while the Pope fucks a choirboy while the boy fucks a copy of the blasphemy laws.</p> <p>Feel free to fucking forward this all over Ireland.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168331&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zli9dhpTJfQGqZFQdWG_LiflYTrf0LrjhxVv9cjOsFQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jason McFailes (not verified)</span> on 02 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168331">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168332" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262498541"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>For a bit of background, there's a constitutional requirement that .ie have a blasphemy law; the previous one was struck down in the courts in the 1990s, so the minister was following the letter of his job in introducing the new one. (There's no guarantee a referendum would have removed the requirement from the constitution successfully.) I would be very, very suprised if people were prosecuted under the new law.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168332&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="WijpPdUqEAUyIb6vfzjImuQO7vWdHCAnnrKi7XhEYs4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.parhasard.net/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Aidan Kehoe (not verified)</a> on 03 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168332">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168333" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262504079"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>"BTW, Mohammad appears as a regular in the comic strip Jesus and Mo.</i>"</p> <p>That's not true, it's a body double: <a href="http://www.jesusandmo.net/2005/11/24/body/">http://www.jesusandmo.net/2005/11/24/body/</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168333&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lC9uTPM-exAsmJLyPtc8G1qzIG40pPTim6NtHfIxgyc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JL (not verified)</span> on 03 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168333">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2168334" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1262509798"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>According to WKPD, blasphemy is still a crime in Northern Ireland, isn't in England and Wales, and probably isn't in Scotland.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2168334&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OK1LbozaSN9DDYzVvZi2aoux9rCH_MCN3C3DcMvIb8Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bioIgnoramus (not verified)</span> on 03 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/27424/feed#comment-2168334">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/gnxp/2010/01/02/over-in-secular-europe%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:06:26 +0000 razib 101127 at https://scienceblogs.com