She Blogged WHAT? https://scienceblogs.com/ en Shush! This is an Examining Room! https://scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska/2009/05/21/shush-this-is-an-examining-roo <span>Shush! This is an Examining Room!</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It can't be avoided. Once a year you make the trek to the gynecologist's office for the annual exam. For various reasons, the whole experience is extremely unpleasant for me, and yet I go, because I try to take care of my health. And hey, I have health insurance! And it pays for the annual exam. Lucky me, I don't even need a referral to see my gynecologist. Though I do get to pay the higher copay for "specialists". This is especially maddening as my primary care physician, a woman I respect and dearly love, could do the exam for me - and does, for many of her other patients - <em>but my insurance will not let her</em>. </p> <p>Ah, but I'm getting sidetracked. Let me tell you what really hacked me off about this year's pilgrimage to Stirrup-Land. Something happened that I haven't experience since I was a child. </p> <p>I was <em>shushed</em>. </p> <p>Here's how it happened. </p> <!--more--><p>The first part of the exam is the breast exam. The woman who was doing my exam is the same physician's assistant who mangled the uterine biopsy that caused me such pain prior to the whole <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska/2008/07/why_not_blogging_my_d_c.php">D&amp;C episode I blogged last year</a>. She's a cheerful, friendly sort, and I like her, or want to, but this is now two strikes against her. </p> <p>She started in on the right breast. "Wow," I said, "that really hurts!" "Yes," she happily reassured me, "women's breasts get much more tender as they age and get old." <em>Thank you</em>. Then she moved on to the left breast. </p> <p>Sweet mother of Christ! I swear to you that it hurt worse, <em>way worse</em>, than having it mashed between the plates for a mammogram. I yelped in pain and involuntarily exclaimed "oh my god that really hurts!" </p> <p>At which point, <em>she shushed me</em>. "Be quiet! The patients in the other rooms will hear you and be upset! They'll think I'm really hurting you!" Oh, because, yeah, this isn't <em>actually</em> hurting me. How dare I misrepresent reality so. </p> <p>Then she said something really extraordinary: "Hopefully the person in the next room is some woman who's had ten kids and doesn't care about anything." </p> <p>Because if you've given birth, especially multiple times, you know (1) what <em>real</em> pain is and (2) you know not to make a big deal about it. 'Cause you're a good girl, a big girl, a nice girl, a polite girl who would never think of disturbing others. Kind of like the women in the following study (thanks to Alice at <a href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/sciencewoman">Sciencewomen</a>, who was inspired to forward this to me upon hearing about my experience) from <a href="http://gas.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/17/1/54">Gender &amp; Society, Vol. 17, No. 1, 54-72 (2003)</a> DOI: 10.1177/0891243202238978:</p> <blockquote><p><strong>Giving Birth Like A Girl<br /> </strong><br /> Karin A. Martin,<br /> University of Michigan</p> <p>Relational, selfless, caring, polite, nice, and kind are not how we imagine a woman giving birth in U.S. culture. Rather, we picture her as screaming, yelling, self-centered, and demanding drugs or occasionally as numbed and passive from pain-killing medication. Using in-depth interviews with women about their labor and childbirth, the author presents data to suggest that white, middle-class, heterosexual women often worry about being nice, polite, kind, and selfless in their interactions during labor and childbirth. This finding is important not only because it contradicts the dominant cultural image of the birthing woman but because it reveals that an internalized sense of gender plays a role in disciplining women and their bodies during childbirth. The feminist sociological literatures on birth are concerned with how women and their bodies are controlled, yet they have overlooked this other dimension of control that is not institutional but is a product of how gender is internalized. </p></blockquote> <p>I say if it hurts, you should feel free to yelp. And no doctor or PA should be shushing you. I am ashamed to say that when my PA shushed me, I let her make me feel embarrassed, and I actually apologized to her. That is just messed up. </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/thusspakezuska" lang="" about="/author/thusspakezuska" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">thusspakezuska</a></span> <span>Thu, 05/21/2009 - 15:26</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/apologists-oppressors" hreflang="en">Apologists for the Oppressors</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/burns-my-shorts" hreflang="en">Burns My Shorts</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/health-insurance-makes-me-crazy" hreflang="en">Health Insurance Makes Me Crazy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ludicrous-language" hreflang="en">Ludicrous Language</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/naming-experience" hreflang="en">Naming Experience</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/she-blogged-what" hreflang="en">She Blogged WHAT?</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/annual-exam" hreflang="en">annual exam</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/birth" hreflang="en">birth</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/breast-exam" hreflang="en">breast exam</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/discipline" hreflang="en">discipline</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/gender-identity" hreflang="en">gender identity</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/gynecology" hreflang="en">gynecology</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/technology" hreflang="en">Technology</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309295" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242936023"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Word. :-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309295&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_t0BleDyrCCiL_XkPwzaXzzCeqTDkDpolC3ZiQhkcQ8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/sciencewoman" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alice (not verified)</a> on 21 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309295">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309296" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242936703"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>yikes! so true: "How dare I misrepresent reality so"... put your scales back on for your own good! nothin' happenin' over here, sing a happy tune, la la la, grope away like the tits are pieces of meat! </p> <p>burns my shorts doubly: "some woman who's had ten kids and doesn't care about anything", yeah, because those slutty slut sluts who can't keep their legs closed don't give a rat's ass if a nuclear holocaust hit. She obviously can take lots of pronging with all those cherubs running loose as evidence of her domination. MAN UP!</p> <p>I'll pass on the article momentarily. There's only so much puke I can generate daily. [last night's laugh fest drained half my body weight through my eyes and nose, I'm weak today]</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309296&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="UbGMb2JF0Sq96bdqzLXiKdIKKM4mrfE4t8Q60A_lTsU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">jc (not verified)</span> on 21 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309296">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309297" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242937806"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Crap. That's just unprofessional, even before you get to all of the batshit nonsense. She wasn't shushing you for anyone's sake but her own, and dishonest about it to boot.</p> <p>There are only two justifiable reasons to shush someone in pain:<br /> 1) To make it possible to communicate with the patient. It's really hard to do anything about an injury if you can't get anything other than screams.<br /> 2) To make it possible to care for someone else. This very rarely comes up, but I've been there (pt with minor injury making it impossible to care for someone with serious head trauma.)</p> <p>Comfort of the caregiver doesn't even make it to the radar.</p> <p>Oh -- and not being trained to do proper breast exams I could so readily be wrong <b>but</b>: in all other forms of manual examination that I <i>have</i> been trained to do, using so much force that you cause serious pain makes it impossible to discern abnormalities. Which means she was not only hurting you unnecessarily, but wasn't even getting a good "read." Epic fail.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309297&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="sG4GTj6ZQYT2zA46xXX-cYKiT7FedFmcsIjnmD-mHKY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">D. C. Sessions (not verified)</span> on 21 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309297">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309298" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242943484"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>worry about being nice, polite, kind, and selfless in their interactions during labor and childbirth</i></p> <p>I apologized to my doctor for some of the things my body did while I was trying to push my kid out. (She laughed and said it happened all the time. Still... I thought they were kinda gross.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309298&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yW1-9PjT_XT7N2nESVtdBdYRf2t2_jX40tArnOrwNFY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/stressrelated" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Kim Hannula (not verified)</a> on 21 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309298">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309299" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242944240"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Apologists for the Oppressors" is a GREAT category name.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309299&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="g66xdDoFvQ6C0PW_OM-7wC_bzKl0czOPny1jOa7BkF4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://profacero.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Professor Zero (not verified)</a> on 21 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309299">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309300" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242945479"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If the examiner was causing you enough pain that you wanted to complain then she owes you an apology - which would have helped reword her 'age' comment into something more constructive. And if examining the other breast hurt [more than the one that she should have already apologized for causing you pain with the examination] you would be absolutely correct to yelp loud enough that other patients hear you and are alerted to the fact that another human being is being subjected to unnecessary pain. Every sentient being is entitled and justified to object to being in pain.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309300&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ftLnMVeGUINfyDVA3b60lq2Vxp9GO58SBgonNFgwLgY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous Pseudonym (not verified)</span> on 21 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309300">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309301" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242968546"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I strongly suggest you make a formal complaint against this person. It won't cost her her job, unless she's piling up such complaints by the bucketload, but it might just get her a swift kick in the ass. If something doesn't change her attitude to her patients, she's going to really damage someone one day.</p> <p>Don't be embarrassed about letting yourself be bowled over, either. A physician is in a position of authority, one to which we are trained from childhood to respond, and the fact that it's always a bit scary to be at the doctor's only reinforces that power. On top of that, as you mentioned, is all the extra "be a nice girl" training that women get. Your PA took advantage of that in a most unprofessional manner. It's a *pity* you didn't puke on her shoes right there and then, but it's not your *fault*. :-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309301&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rrWhjsrz9yrkowbrvqt6o5FkBNvM84ZJ7cESWkVx5BQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sennoma.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bill (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309301">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309302" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242968819"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>P.S. as I keep saying, "health insurance" is a misnomer. The multi-billion dollar industry that goes by that relatively and deliberately innocuous name in this country is in fact a protection racket.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309302&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9R_4l6_yEaduizbyI6sU107en_4otMuNSfr8mKQQvyQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sennoma.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bill (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309302">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309303" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242970430"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>WOW. I agree that a formal written complaint is needed, both to the person in charge of the gyn office and a copy to whatever state medical board licenses PAs.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309303&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-hof5M2LxofbRpz7g0GPGtNXNch-kWz5uDKeIRxFSAM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Carlie (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309303">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309304" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242971159"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I think D.C. is spot on about the reasons to shush a patient, particularly when you're asking "What hurts?" and all you get is "aarrruuugh! *&amp;^%$, it hurts, it hurts!" Although, when I'm on the other side of the bed, I'm a grade A wuss - so I try to be as considerate about it as possible.</p> <p>Obviously this PA needs a stern talking to - breast pain during a manual exam can an important clinical finding. It is usually nothing more than the patient has sensitive breasts, but it's still something to note so you can be less of a cause of discomfort to the patient in the future. (And warn them that, if they're of age, mammography may hurt, but is really important.)</p> <p>Also, not only was the age comment exceptionally rude, but it's been my experience that as women age, we tend to have LESS pain with a manual exam. This is due to the fact that breast density decreases with age and therefore the examiner doesn't have to press as hard to discern any masses in the breast. With young women sometimes you really have to wail on the breast to determine anything at all, something that always makes me cringe and feel the urge to apologize profusely.</p> <p>I'll echo bill in saying that this may be something you want to speak to the physician or office manager (or whomever is in charge) about.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309304&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JvtCq8wYQ9erXMpy0y_hmyLgbo7Gwp4v4kMAC3apRss"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dr.FabulousShoes (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309304">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309305" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242973827"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I have had numerous experiences with PAs, and now refuse to see them (already on the list are a few MDs and all DOs). I've had PAs tell me the most asinine things, such as misdiagnosing eczema as scabies, totally missing a subcutaneous infection (with classic symptoms). </p> <p>All patients need to understand that they are not at the mercy of the medical "professionals" whom they consult. The medical people work for THEM, not the other way around. You are totally within the bounds of propriety to order the biopsy-botching PA out of the room, and insist on seeing someone else, preferrably someone who has a supervisory function over the PA.</p> <p>You also have the option of leaving the practice completely in favor of another one, depending on the town you live in. In mine, there is only ONE OB-GYN practice left in the entire town of 135,000 people.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309305&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LTAiVQ41vjEikAJyEoGJ959Dwpyx2AvNCnfbruTQa24"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">TGAP Dad (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309305">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309306" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242973966"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow. I agree, an official complaint should be filed to the board that oversees her. She's injured you to the point of severe pain twice due to incompetence or errors, and then she was extremely unprofessional about it. Even if she's nice, she really should not see patients unless these problems are addressed. (And if you go back to that office, I'd make it very clear you will not let her touch you and require a different assistant!)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309306&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="i4Ze8oECECIrnCg-WjGqZ8PvQqDSQX_NcjuNyspggUc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://volcanista.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">volcanista (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309306">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309307" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242976409"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm going to pitch in to the chorus saying, you need to write a formal letter of complaint. If she is mashing you that hard, and paying <i>that little attention</i>, then she is filing to do her job at the most basic level, and not only is she victimising patients (you included, but not alone, I bet), but she probably isn't getting nearly as much info as she ought to be from the exam and that endangers peoples lives.</p> <p>A formal letter from a well-educated and well-written individual ought to prompt at least a bit more awareness, and hopefully more of a review of best practice and patient care. But it doesn't serve anyone to let her get away with this nonsense.</p> <p>Which is not a criticism of your reaction on the spot, by the way -- I relate to that too much. I was trained for years into obedience and apology for inconveniencing anyone, and apology is almost a reflex action. It has taken some serious pissed-offness to train myself out of that to any large degree.</p> <p>But letters...letters are <b>good</b>.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309307&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="HcRce_Sfa3QilTklMG4QEZnS-zeOpLMIHTinRK19Ov4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Luna_the_cat (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309307">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309308" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242976527"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ack, <i>failing</i> to do her job, not "filing".</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309308&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7KpwHxSDawlXB7_yRR2x5WtQoh6WRDU5uzomkKegecc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Luna_the_cat (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309308">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309309" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242977820"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Put me in the chorus. Not only write a letter, but make a phone call to the "customer relations" dept, tell your regular physician, and anyone you encounter who is scheduled to see this woman.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309309&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LIucO7j2Waib3YmW33Km_AtyUEGP3eNRr38SiFzyPs8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">mdiehl (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309309">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309310" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242977844"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>UUUUUUGH, Zuska. But this reminds me that I need to make a trip to get my vagina tuned up. Damn it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309310&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5JPWegIa7wHgGi3z0mSCOOaj6gQiN2mEGn6cQljmTsQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Isis the Scientist (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309310">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309311" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242978155"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Put me in the chorus. Not only write a letter, but make a phone call to the "customer relations" dept, tell your regular physician, and anyone you encounter who is scheduled to see this woman.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309311&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pgEq809Iwx-Sav0EWqwGCp6Cf0tl8wTyho2Sqz7-9Pw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">mdiehl (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309311">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309312" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242978300"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>'Nuther vote for a formal complaint. You're not the only one she's doing this to and it needs to stop.</p> <p>Why a woman who has such contempt for other women wants to work in women's health is beyond me.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309312&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FfsbFYW9W_TgElGPiYw1a6vrjlyM68AxsDlfUsc2ZvI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stickypaws (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309312">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309313" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242979092"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow! What the hell! Yes, I would complain, too. Yeesh!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309313&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Puyc7_yD5lqGxOQTlRZAswjwgrQnZ1bWsn2yAj3Xq84"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">human (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309313">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309314" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242980599"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Absolutely you should complain. Causing pain is bad, and IGNORING it is worse. The pain could have been an indicator of something. </p> <p>And honestly, if that woman hasn't had tons of ladies yelping in her rooms, she clearly hasn't been in practice very long.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309314&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kqL4fuQTEluYgD0ivtEXgPJ46v3eTFW3EsHRp2UlisI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/neurotopia" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Scicurious (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309314">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309315" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242990422"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, I hate to pull an AOL "me, too!", but I definitely think you should say something. Even if there is no immediate reaction, then it at least starts an audit trail, and maybe you would not be the first complaint!</p> <p>As far as other folks "hearing you", one would think that all kinds of noises would happen in a doctor's office. If I heard a blood-curdling scream from the next exam room, my reaction (after I came back down onto the table :-) ) would be <i>sympathy</i> (as in, "that poor person must have a serious problem"), not "holy crap, the doctor's mauling that person." This PA's amazingly paranoid.</p> <p>Addressing the childbirth article, when my wife had our second son (and she fits the demographic exactly), all kinds of bodily functions happened, which she was incredibly embarassed about, and she still gets upset about. I was right there, and I never felt it was "gross" or thought she should "control herself". If I were passing a bowling ball, you can bet all kinds of things would happen, and I wouldn't give a damn! But of course, that is the ugly privilege rearing its head...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309315&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="U3s6LfAkoz8b08w1kHUBxqY766K_-yy2o-dFxSW-3zM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">RichB (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309315">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309316" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242991751"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow, what a response! You are all awesome. And you have convinced me that I need to make a formal complaint. If I get any response I will let you know here.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309316&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="eTE4lEpQ0neWfnzeLxAve5oNP71uMl7-0Fx4hEhGUTo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zuska (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309316">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309317" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242993278"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I think my comment got eated... here's trying again...</p> <p>I would also lodge a complaint and/or change doctors. Seriously, insensitivity aside, since when do breast exams hurt worse than mammograms? (granted, I've never yet had a mammogram, so I can't say for sure, but it sounds like you've got a point of reference). And the insensitivity is epic.<br /> Since it seems appropriate, I'll go ahead and point out my favorite part of Lessons for Girls: Trust your instincts<br /> <i>"By that, I mean judge people based on how they treat you, not based on hypothetical models of how people behave."</i><br /> This was <b>not</b> a nice PA; though there's no reason to assume malice on her part, you need not think of her as "nice".</p> <p>Although I will say, my mental image for "let's hope the woman next door has 10 kids and doesn't care" is a woman surrounded by urchins a la Monty Python Meaning of Life in the next room. And I suppose a bit more yelping wouldn't make much of a difference in that case ;)</p> <p>The bit on "politeness during childbirth" is really interesting. The Carebear is reluctant to be there for delivery, I think due to an assumption that the dominant cultural image will be the scene. I was not foolish enough to promise to be nice, but that was more because I'm going into this with the attitude that I don't really Know how it'll be then because I don't Want to be nice. Hmmm. Must puzzle over that one a bit.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309317&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wU-eiRGL86DvlxI6fBpNjFTogxYHKPr2bp09JnlmMuQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">becca (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309317">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309318" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242995391"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Wow, what a response! You are all awesome. And you have convinced me that I need to make a formal complaint.</p></blockquote> <p>Thank you, Zuska [1]. Health care quality is something that affects us all, pretty much out to the limits of connection. However indirectly, you're doing us all a favor.</p> <p>Besides, you deserve good care.</p> <p>[1] Speaking purely selfishly; I don't pretend to represent anyone but myself.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309318&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ns3O0PBrGMAPghwRJyWuQS4k_FNr6HZ7s_zLq5P-5Sg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">D. C. Sessions (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309318">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309319" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1242998992"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"You might frighten the other patients"? Come on! What is this, a pediatrician's office? That was, quite literally the last time I heard that comment. (My bother had to be physically restrained to get his shots, so my job was to tell all the other kids he was a sissy and it didn't hurt.) I have certainly shouted and cried at the gyn, and all they had was sympathy.</p> <p>Your PA reminds me of a dental hygienist I had once; very friendly except for the stabbing.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309319&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xGYiFfM5N74SV_LLcwMTTtitctpdvS4S_j4ixwGsYGo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309319">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309320" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243001948"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>As an MD, I'm telling you that you HAVE to lodge a complaint. First, if a breast exam hurts that much then there is a problem with your breasts or you are being examined by a fuckwit. Given the comments to your complaints, I am going to assume that the latter is the case.</p> <p>I have shushed patients, but I'm in pediatrics. Trying to calm a fussy baby is generally acceptable behavior. And some adolescents just need to be shushed on occasion.</p> <p>My best GYN story involves my brother who is in that specialty. I was complaining about my first pap smear with the cervical brush which I found uncomfortable. He said that the brush didn't hurt. I asked him when he last had his cervix brushed, and he shushed about it immediately.</p> <p>Complain, please. This practice has a loose cannon they need to know about.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309320&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="qXOiKhf7uLCiROaHaf_UIG-QrGU7ZSPiWUMoAmygc0c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://pascalesthoughts.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pascale (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309320">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309321" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243002055"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><em>The Carebear is reluctant to be there for delivery,</em></p> <p>whaaat? you tell Cb from me that this is not to be missed. not. whether you are yelling and screaming or not. be there. period. done.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309321&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EX7RnD4P3E7YSArFwMf-gsq8-pOZAUSteY2DuRGzYQ4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DrugMonkey (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309321">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309322" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243003546"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I say if it hurts, you should feel free to yelp. And no doctor or PA should be shushing you. I am ashamed to say that when my PA shushed me, I let her make me feel embarrassed, and I actually apologized to her. That is just messed up.</p></blockquote> <p>You disappoint me Zuska. On the bloggesphere you have no problem barfing over someones shoes, usually when appropriate, including mine. Yet here it was entirely appropriate, yet you did not. Come on, you can do better.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309322&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="juWwYFRKpFXjLAws5jqUGelpaa_aZoXmxrTUEoWcqxo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.wagicalplace.com/about.shtml" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Danimal (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309322">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309323" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243004387"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>You disappoint me Zuska. On the bloggesphere you have no problem barfing over someones shoes, usually when appropriate, including mine.</p></blockquote> <p>Easy, Danimal. I get the impression that there are subtleties to shoe-puking protocol that may interfere in this case. Best to defer to the expert -- Zuska.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309323&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="u6xTDptZC9Pk7FNxpD9vFT5nSiZ1_PJDG9dff_S3C-0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">D. C. Sessions (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309323">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309324" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243007934"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>You also have the option of leaving the practice completely in favor of another one, depending on the town you live in. </i></p> <p>And, of course, on your insurance company, who has negotiated the best deal for themselves and may well not authorize payment if you go elsewhere.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309324&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3PgR9mc4wSmbUQTQU0vgsGDqElNqu6lPprMR-l3eDuY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://thegreenbelt.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">The Ridger (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309324">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309325" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243011014"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Zuska, you should definitely pursue this with the MD and/or clinic manager, and then find another practitioner. Her behavior is completely unprofessional and dangerous, especially in light of the relatively vulnerable positions we all find ourselves in at the ob/gyn. Good luck with that. </p> <p>That said, your (soon to be ex-) PA sounds very like the labor and delivery nurse who was present during the 3 hour pushing marathon immediately preceding the birth of my son. In the throes of my intensely painful contractions, I, too, was 'shushed', as she sternly explained to me that I was 'wasting energy' by screaming and that I should instead internalize it all and use it to power the pushing. Being in labor is kind of like having a 'get out of fake politeness free' card, though. I emerged from my laser-like focus on delivering what felt like a 30 pound medicine ball just long enough to waste a bit more energy, roaring "Get her the fuck out of here!" at my horrified husband. </p> <p>He did.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309325&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="X_r2s9YnTO4AieDoJRA-H41uWtcCFpaXAwqOMNF01WA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Jennifer B. Phillips (aka Danio)">Jennifer B. Ph… (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309325">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309326" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243018805"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Good to see the formal complaint coming. It needs to be done.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309326&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="DiSz19LQJ9s6wVPLqH7AZV96aEq72Qxy-HyGLwjnKpg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://academiccrossroads.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Academic (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309326">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309327" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243027166"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is nonsense. I've had breast exams and mammograms, and there's no reason for the first one to give you anything but mild discomfort-yes, even "as we age." She doesn't know what she's doing, and shushed you to cover it up. </p> <p>She's incompetent, and could do more damage than just what you know about. I'm glad you're complaining about her. At the very least, she needs more training.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309327&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KorCtGvrfY1et5skwgVFKwR7BQfaeEx0AJzDfz8stqc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">emjaybee (not verified)</span> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309327">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309328" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243038135"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>As an MD, I'm telling you that you HAVE to lodge a complaint.</i></p> <p>Z doesn't HAVE to do anything about this incident that she doesn't want to do. Fuck you and your "I'm an MD so I get to tell you from On High what you MUST do". Sincerely, fuck you very much.</p> <p>That attitude is the source of malpractice, mistreatment and mangled boobs, and its unfortunate prevalence among clinicians is why I go through 'em like tissue paper until I find one with a bit of humanity left.</p> <p>I mean, can you not hear yourself? Did it really not even OCCUR to you that yet another medic trying to push her around might not be high on Z's wishlist right now? (To be clear, this is not aimed at "protecting" Z -- you pissed me off on my own behalf. It just astounds me that you didn't so much as consider the possible impact of your remarks -- or if you did consider it, you didn't care.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309328&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SpJvfRpenIVHGNtJNucPmPJwTGzznlAv9gSpVcOVdP0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sennoma.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bill (not verified)</a> on 22 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309328">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309329" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243077410"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Others by now have voiced how unprofessional this medical assistant's handling of your pain was. If you wish to return to this gynecologist's office, I would recommend that you talk with the doctor about this and make it plain that this behavior is unacceptable. You may need to run, not walk, to a different GYN. </p> <p>Your experience reminds me of my experience with the RN the last time I saw my former internist. The RN handles a lot the work, including transferring records to other medical offices. She too is friendly and well-meaning, but scatter-brained. Last year while I was undergoing tests for leukemia/lymphoma and thyroid cancer, on two occasions the RN failed to fax over necessary records before tests. On the second occasion I showed up for a thin-needle biopsy, only to find that sonogram images &amp; report of my thyroid had not been sent over in advance, despite my calling the RN two times to remind her to do so.</p> <p>The straw that broke the camel's back, about six months ago, was when I went in for my annual well woman exam. I should tell you that even though it is amply documented that I underwent premature menopause in my 30s due to immune problems, every time I would go in this RN would ask the date of my last period. When I reminded her that my last period was about 10 years ago, the RN said cheerfully, 'Oh, how lucky you were to get it over early!' Never mind that I had fertility problems and was never able to carry a child to term. I was very shocked at her insensitivity. I realize I should have said something. I had already been thinking of switching doctors, but at this point I knew that I would never go back to this doctor. Thinking about this now in view of your experience, I realize that I need to follow up on this and make my dissatisfaction known.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309329&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FVkoeM20jguAZcmpu9z3h8Fq1TLNvupSPIBUpCNrs8g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Octavia (not verified)</span> on 23 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309329">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309330" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243078509"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Grrrr. This kind of crap is one of the reasons I often find myself apologizing to patients on behalf of our profession overall. It's not all PAs, or all DOs, or all NPs, or all MDs - it's unfortunately many clinicians of all stripes. </p> <p>I have little new to add; it's true, as many have said, that clinical breast exams shouldn't hurt, and that the woman was flat-out wrong when she said breasts become more tender with age (never mind the ageist/sexist idiocy in the rest of that comment). Bill is also correct that no one has the right to tell you what you *must* do. Formal complaints may (emphasis MAY) have an impact if the system in which she practices follows up on such. If you do decide to lodge a complaint, I'd suggest addressing to the office manager of the practice with cc's to the supervising physician and your insurance company. </p> <p>And, Zuska, once again I apologize on behalf of my profession. <i>First, do no harm</i>. Some of my colleagues just don't get that.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309330&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="36drd9Wj7jdES7woxMVjrXz68oxwWG6xThgFmbCBL7U"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://twowomenblogging.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jay (not verified)</a> on 23 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309330">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309331" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243080430"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I really appreciate the practical advice on how to lodge the complaint. </p> <p>And, I'm glad to see comments on this thread are working again!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309331&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uPr1T2BaBkMZB8X2aNcpiwgWf9WleAZ1TT0s02PmSQ8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zuska (not verified)</a> on 23 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309331">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309332" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243084971"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Re behavior in childbirth: my children were born at home, and I made whatever noise I felt like. My magnificent midwives were completely blase about the racket, of course, having heard it all before many times - although one of my neighbors asked my husband if I was all right, and then - bless her heart - sent over a fruit salad.</p> <p>The only time a breast exam ever hurt me badly was when an RN carried it out and then told me I was too fat to have babies. Wrong on both counts, obviously. I switched providers right away.</p> <p>Best of luck in sorting out your situation. You deserve better treatment. We all do.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309332&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zvQxTmj24tyRKwu13VJnc8Ki_WHmBsmuK54cQuYj_Io"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">naomi (not verified)</span> on 23 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309332">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309333" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243108010"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>the RN said cheerfully, 'Oh, how lucky you were to get it over early!'</i></p> <p>Wow. Was this the RN's first week on the job??? Because that may be one of the most insensitive things I've ever heard. I swear, after the post and these comments I'm taking in a huge bouquet of flowers to my next annual visit. I got lucky enough when I moved to my current location to find a place where all of the staff have been incredible. As an indication of the view they take towards patients, when you go in to change, the little pile of folded paper gown has a Hershey's kiss on top with a little note that basically says they know these visits suck, so have some chocolate to try and make it a little more tolerable.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309333&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aWwFiCQ9cDEuN04Y5oUWLOd1Ig9uQF7At4Oebum0s2A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Carlie (not verified)</span> on 23 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309333">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309334" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243119060"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow, Carlie. Just...wow. That sounds so wonderful.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309334&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ORAhc4jAnwSyTsFTBsn0JoHSg7TrYhOoDspeW6P110Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zuska (not verified)</a> on 23 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309334">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309335" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243188548"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I hope that didn't sound like nyah, I have a good doctor. It just really surprised me that it's so bad other places. Interestingly, most of the staff I've interacted with have been NP/CNMs rather than OB/GYNs.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309335&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pCcZB1eFTxwUbjQDSPp0a58Cz_U-cm45nfhcMBkhMcU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Carlie (not verified)</span> on 24 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309335">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2309336" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243199407"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The (very young, certainly pre-gravid) trainee midwife, when I was in labour and not enjoying it, kept saying "you're not doing yourself any fabours." Bless.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2309336&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vynoGNMMw1wwtnNKG4-W14fCMDUo-wSLwV4gwSIYhi4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">orlando (not verified)</span> on 24 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2309336">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/thusspakezuska/2009/05/21/shush-this-is-an-examining-roo%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Thu, 21 May 2009 19:26:06 +0000 thusspakezuska 115816 at https://scienceblogs.com Menopause: It Helps You Save On Winter Heating Bills https://scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska/2008/12/23/menopause-it-helps-you-save-on <span>Menopause: It Helps You Save On Winter Heating Bills</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Last winter it was not uncommon for me to go to bed wearing <em>two</em> flannel nightgowns. I would hunker down under our thickest comforter, pressed up against Mr. Zuska for warmth. Mr. Zuska, like many men, is an astonishing heat source, for which I have been grateful on many a chilly night. </p> <p>This winter, things are different. I wear a short-sleeved t-shirt and a pair of cotton shorts to bed. We haven't broken out the heavy comforter. Sometimes I can't tolerate being too close to Mr. Zuska's blast furnace body. </p> <p>What changed? It's menopause! </p> <p>The mid-forties seem a little young to me for menopause but apparently it's not unheard of, and here I am in the middle of it. The hot flashes started in July, and I was truly miserable in the summer. From one minute to the next, it would feel as if someone had suddenly turned the heat up fifteen degrees (that's Fahrenheit, and yes, rest of the world, we here in the U.S. are still stubbornly clinging to our Fahrenheit scale and feet and pounds and all the rest of it.) This would last anywhere from two to five minutes, then gradually subside. In the beginning this happened every half hour. It's much less frequent now. </p> <p>It's a strange sensation, not exactly like just being yourself outside on a hot day. It's more like the hot day has gotten inside your body and you just want to crawl out of your skin to get away from it. You know the heat is going to stop in a few moments, but for those few moments you feel you absolutely cannot tolerate it. </p> <!--more--><p>The key, as I have been told, is layers, so you can peel them off and put them back on as needed, though this is of limited utility in the summer. There's only so much clothing you can wear at once in the summer and you can't really peel down to your bra in public, no matter how desperately you feel you must. So summer was pretty miserable for me.</p> <p>But then the weather cooled and ahhhhh....nothing like a hot flash to warm you up on a chilly day! It's amazing. When they come, even my normally chilly fingers warm up. </p> <p>I find two other "side effects" that go along with this hormonally-induced temperature roller coaster. One, on average, I do not feel as cold in general. And I don't mind keeping the house at a cooler temperature because when I start flashing, the cooler temp is most welcome. These days we set the temperature to 58 at night and 64 for the daytime. Even when I'm not flashing, these cooler temps don't seem as bothersome to me as they would have last year. </p> <p>Two, and this would seem to contradict number one, but here it is: occasionally I have what I can only call a "cold flash". I will suddenly start feeling very cold, then shivering, and I just cannot get myself warm. It's the same sensation as with the hot flash - it feels like the cold is inside me. I wonder, have any of you other menopausal old crones experienced anything like this? It's much, much rarer than the hot flashes but it does happen. Once it happened when we were at the movies. I was wearing a t-shirt and sweat jersey but had to put my coat on. I was <em>still</em> shivering and Mr. Zuska gave me his coat to drape over my legs. Finally the uncontrollable shivering settled down. </p> <p>But the overall increased warmth thing is what really amazes me. I can't stand wearing my flannel nightgown to bed - way too warm - and turtlenecks are pretty much ruled out. If possible, all clothing should be cotton. I do wonder if, when the hot flashes finally end, I'll go back to being my usual chilly self, or will this increased tolerance of cold temperatures stay with me? </p> <p>If you're in menopause, or you've been through it, share your stories with me here. How do you experience hot flashes? Do you have "cold flashes"? Do you feel warmer overall? And don't you just luv not havin' teh periods anymore?!?!??! </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/thusspakezuska" lang="" about="/author/thusspakezuska" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">thusspakezuska</a></span> <span>Tue, 12/23/2008 - 10:16</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/daily-struggles" hreflang="en">Daily Struggles</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/naming-experience" hreflang="en">Naming Experience</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/she-blogged-what" hreflang="en">She Blogged WHAT?</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308399" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230052376"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>When you have a hot flash, is your body actually retaining more heat and increasing your core temperature, or is it just a sensation of being hot?</p> <p>BTW, it's fucking great that you're blogging all prolific and shit, Z! w00t!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308399&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2rIVO7jOM_DtcHPdsTWbLDuxTSDVWBHIRgsmMzsqu-E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://physioprof.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Comrade PhysioProf (not verified)</a> on 23 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308399">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308400" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230069237"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>My wife was forced into menopause at 51 yrs due to surgery. Last winter I practically froze as no matter where we had the thermostat set it was too hot, what a difference a year makes - this year I found her resetting the thermostat 2 C higher :) I'm much happier and more comfortable - so that should answer your question about will it stay with you :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308400&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ilBZZwJ42E6QOgsslyrHdhttFTtYQt7T7MHDKs10cYo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thealders.net/blogs" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Doug Alder (not verified)</a> on 23 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308400">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308401" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230271960"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ah, power surges. There is a lot of variability in how women experience perimenopausal symptoms. I began having hot flushes, the ones that happen at night only, in my early 30's and in my early 40's started with heart palpitations and short-term memory challenges. ahaha Anyway, I am now 50 and still have hot flashes. They come and go as they have for years -- I might have them for a week or two or so and then not again for months. I get 'hot' ears still -- one ear or part of one ear -- hot flushes along both cheekbones and across the bridge of my nose, sometimes down my neck -- bright red and generating enough heat to warm a small town!I have not menstruated in almost 2 years, so I am passed that 'official' and magical menopausal mark. I know many women with more severe hot flashes, where they simply drip with perspiration and they fear having flashes during inconvenient times,like business meetings, wedding receptions, because they are so debilitating. And, then there are cultures which report no perimenopausal effects. Go figure we'd live crappy enough lifestyles to earn this consequence! Well, live clean and that seems to minimize the experiences and embrace this next stage of your beautiful womanly body!</p> <p>I enjoy reading your blog. Thanks for your great thoughts and attitude!</p> <p>Wendy</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308401&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NclTgZ1TL_l5IrTlpqHeAoaXnCBa1D1j9ZM8c4WuBW8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wendy (not verified)</span> on 26 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308401">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308402" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230287642"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I've been running cold since my mid-30's when insulin resistance kicked in.</p> <p>I've been having hot flashes since late June, after the third dose of chemo for breast cancer. I'm lucky that the hot flashes are not as bad as some women (leaving aside that I'm lucky to be alive), but the 'cold flashes' make me miserable. Contrary to what people say about heat being worse than cold, you can cool down pretty quickly with a nice iced drink (or just by kicking off the covers), but it feels like it takes hours to warm up. Here's a good source for more flash information: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/7fzdvc">http://tinyurl.com/7fzdvc</a> </p> <p>You may be fortunate to enter menopause early; the fewer menstrual cycles your body must endure, the fewer opportunities for milk duct cells and uterine cells to go astray while dividing and become cancerous.</p> <p>Oh me? 46 when diagnosed, 47 now. My 'care team' is very pleased, but I'm BRCA positive...which means I heal agressively, while generally not doing very well on tumor suppression. Just don't get me started on Chemo Brain, though BTW, glutamine helps with all kinds of memory issues.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308402&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Hrggj6ai_m4Yk1WfdC4XbtoUSxMbG4GoJsN-ALHR6tw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Tree (not verified)</span> on 26 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308402">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308403" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230306317"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Tree, thanks for the website and for sharing your story. I'm sending all my positive thoughts your way. And thanks for spending some of your time here reading my blog. Glutamine, eh? I may have to try that.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308403&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vp-H7Y2zBvbhPTxM42fj19Cjz3fx-KyPrE3qFC_ngco"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zuska (not verified)</a> on 26 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308403">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308404" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230342036"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I have had hot flashes now for 5 years. They are much worse in the summer. I hate them because of the indignity of it and the constant reminder that I am not young and fresh, which is what our culture wants. I have to stick my face close in front of a fan at work, so my co workers know when I have one. Only in the last year has anything made any difference in it, namely that I now have acupuncture treatments and also take an herbal remedy prescribed by my acupuncturist which has wild yam extract. This makes me have far fewer hot flashes as long as the outside temperature is cool that is, less than about 40 or 50 degrees. As soon as the temperature rises outside, nothing will stop the indignity. I hope that maybe someday I'll just grow out of it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308404&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="En93kdXXXLnAEsSNgzoCy1joFCWlxBQZkyXAE7OGmUI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.pyracantha.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pyracantha@gmail.com (not verified)</a> on 26 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308404">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308405" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230500954"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I've been combing the web for weeks now looking for hot flash info and I had to leave a comment on your blog -- you are the one and only woman I've come across who puts a positive spin on hot flashes (sometimes when it is really cold and chilly, a hot flash doesn't really seem like a bad thing). Hmm... let's see how much I could save on this year's oil bill with hot flashes? </p> <p>@Tree, liked the link. Here's some of the best info I've found (especially since the latest news on HRT and breast cancer has me scrambling for holistically based approaches to symptom control): <a href="http://www.womentowomen.com/menopause/hotflashesnightsweats.aspx">http://www.womentowomen.com/menopause/hotflashesnightsweats.aspx</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308405&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="v3U5Awfu_Vly-xRt_EPbMJq9mZsHWPZDMzU8YgaQDWY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://viewsonwomenshealth.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jacqueline (not verified)</a> on 28 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308405">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308406" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230509676"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Waking up generally triggers a hot flash. I've always been a light sleeper, and I frequently have insomnia, so I wake up and flash fairly often. The books say hot flashes wake women up, but for me, it's the waking that causes the hot flash. </p> <p>Sometimes I have hot flashes during the day. I also get the rare cold flash. </p> <p>I like this meditation, although I haven't quite figured out how to read it and do it both.<br /> <a href="http://www.menopause-metamorphosis.com/An_Excerpt-109-kundalini_meditation.htm">Kundalini Meditation</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308406&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FljJbLuAkiMlWxnaJLbwbltD_deTvua0MmVYBjhyPb4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Quercki MoonSinger (not verified)</span> on 28 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308406">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308407" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230540624"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yes, layers are the key! I don't seem to have the overall increase in warmth that you describe, Zuska. In between hot flashes I'm just as cold as I've always been, so can't get away with lowering the thermostat. The flashes come and go in frequency, and I hope they will decrease now that my ob/gyn says my hormones are officially menopausal. It's when they wake me up at night that it really bothers me. I don't sweat as much as some women, so that has not been an issue.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308407&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-XJ8XBcgsml_ElxtwhNVyTe--TBlapJKiG6T091hZbY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">PeggyL (not verified)</span> on 29 Dec 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308407">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308408" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230924126"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>A quick practical note-- even when you're not menstruating, it is recommend that you keep using birth control for at least 12 months after your last period.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308408&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LoaegxQrYtXt-eAwe7wZnls2p5Vi3X5dvmmtLWpzxaI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.FairerScience.org" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pat (not verified)</a> on 02 Jan 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308408">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308409" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1231355911"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Have had the flashes for 6 years or so now. Nothing quite as special as having one while teaching or in a meeting when you are supposed to be talking. Comrade PhysioProf, they are sometimes called "hot flushes" and this is accurate. The reason you get them is the blood all goes to your extremities and you sometimes flush in the face as well as feeling hot (and your skin is hot to the touch). Layers of clothing and a personal fan (manual or electric) help but there is no cure that I have found. I can corroborate the utility in helping cure cold feet or hands. Just wait for the next flash and you are warm. No more flannel nightgowns for me! And the cats get thrown off the bed with the covers sometimes! But gotta love the no longer cycling thing...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308409&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="gTHuspHcZSEqjxKCaJueqo7N_zds3P2TC2tanCzGLRM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Beth (not verified)</span> on 07 Jan 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308409">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308410" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1232458880"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hot Flashes! No more cold feet.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308410&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="t6t9XSF5R4LKLjhknXozUfeGTmT3G-6H_b8Ze3vY7dA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DNA Lady (not verified)</span> on 20 Jan 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308410">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308411" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1232542014"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm looking forward to menopause. My core body temperature sits about 36.3C normally and I'm <i>always</i> freezing, unless the temperature gets up to around 37C or above. Robert Service summed up my feelings as to why I'm looking forward to hot flashes: "Since I left Plumtree/Down in Tennessee/It's the first time I've been warm!"</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308411&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7CXKbDqBI0j8FPPQqp7A5IODHHxH2xgC5PJoYZK_h8w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Interrobang (not verified)</span> on 21 Jan 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2308411">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/thusspakezuska/2008/12/23/menopause-it-helps-you-save-on%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:16:36 +0000 thusspakezuska 115741 at https://scienceblogs.com Why Not? Blogging My D & C https://scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska/2008/07/24/why-not-blogging-my-d-c <span>Why Not? Blogging My D &amp; C</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Blame it on Abel, who <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/terrasig/2008/02/liveblogging_the_vasectomy_chr.php">blogged his vasectomy</a>, and Janet, who <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/ethicsandscience/2008/07/blogging_my_mammogram.php">blogged her mammogram</a>. Also blame <a href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/drugmonkey/">Drugmonkey</a> and <a href="http://physioprof.wordpress.com/">Physioprof</a>, who along with Abel, Janet, and others encouraged me to Blog My D&amp;C. Yep. So here goes. </p> <!--more--><p>It all started innocently enough back in May with my annual exam. <em>First appointment.</em> My nurse practitioner was bothered by my history: no periods since September 2006, followed by the sudden surprise! of brief bleeding episodes in February and mid-May. Various doctors of mine have been debating as to whether I am in menopause, or I just have screwed up hormone levels that need to be straightened out. The nurse practitioner is on the menopause side, and so the two bleeding episodes, from her point of view, warranted taking a uterine biopsy.</p> <p>Note to readers: If anyone ever wants to biopsy your uterus and says "It doesn't hurt much, just a little cramping," do NOT believe them. Insist on some sort of sedative. Though I was told that it would be just "mildly uncomfortable" with "maybe a little cramping", I nearly elevated off the table from the astonishingly intense pain (followed by cramping on and off the rest of the day). And it was all for naught; she was unable to obtain a biopsy sample. She decided not to proceed with the exam any further at that point. She ordered a vaginal ultrasound to get a look at the condition of the uterus, and asked me to come back for the exam after getting the ultrasound. </p> <p>So I scheduled the ultrasound (<em>second appointment</em>), which was uncomfortable but not painful, and then returned for the exam and to discuss the results. <em>Third appointment</em>. The results showed some thickening of the uterine lining, and she recommended a D&amp;C, or dilation and curettage, which would be performed by a gynecologist on staff I'd yet to meet. (<a href="http://www.emedicinehealth.com/dilation_and_curettage_dandc/article_em.htm">This site</a> has a great description of D&amp;C, reasons for having one, etc.)</p> <p>I set an appointment with him (<em>fourth appointment</em>), and we discussed my history and the ultrasound results. Together we concluded that a D&amp;C was the prudent course of action. He explained that the procedure would involve dilation of the cervix to allow entry into the uterus with various implements, including a camera that would let him take a look at everything (hysteroscopy). I would be sedated, and he promised that recovery would not be bad at all - "just a little cramping and some spotting of blood". Naturally, I was suspicious of this! </p> <p>There was, of course, a pre-op appointment (<em>fifth appointment</em>). A very reassuring nurse took my history, list of meds, and allergies. She decided she needed to get an EKG on me because of some other stuff in my medical history, just to be safe; it was fine. Then it was time to draw blood. Sadly, my veins did not wish to cooperate. In fact, they had gone into hiding. She called in the lab technician, who draws blood all day long; she also could not find any veins. She finally drew blood from a spot on the inside of my arm about three inches below my elbow. Do not let anyone do this to you, especially if you take Plavix. Otherwise, you will end up, as I did, with a two-inch long, one-inch wide, garish purple bruise. They advised me to drink plenty of water the day before the procedure, to help beef up the recalcitrant veins. </p> <p>Interestingly, I was not asked to stop taking Plavix before the procedure. Apparently the risk of extensive bleeding is slight compared to the risk of going without the Plavix for protection against stroke. </p> <p>Pre-op instructions included nothing to eat or drink after midnight, take morning meds with a minimal sip of water, remove all jewelry including piercings, and wear loose clothing. I found it both funny and sad that women had to be told not to wear high heels. Who would want to walk around on high heels after having someone poke around inside your uterus? Apparently, enough women do, that an admonishment against this behavior needs to be included in the pre-op instructions. Another pre-op instruction was the requirement to have someone to drive me home, and stay with me for 24 hours following the procedure. The sedation would include a combination of three drugs: propofol, versed, and fentanyl. Sedation, amnesia, analgesia. That works for me! </p> <p>I was told to report to outpatient surgery at 6:30 a.m. The very nice pre-op nurse had scheduled me first in the day to minimize my fasting time, so as to also minimize the chances of triggering a migraine from going without food for too long. Yes, she was a migraine sufferer, too. If you are a migraine sufferer and have to fast for a procedure, don't wait for a kind nurse to help you out; ask for your procedure to be scheduled as early as possible. </p> <p>I got up at 5 a.m. to shower and at the last minute decided to shave my legs, too. Didn't want anyone in the operating room gossiping about those hairy-legged feminists. Mr. Z and I were at the outpatient surgery waiting room at 6:15 a.m., which was a mistake. Being early gave me extra time to work up the anxiety I was experiencing. They really should have someone to greet you at the door who says, "Welcome to the outpatient surgery waiting room; here's your valium!" I registered, with photo ID and insurance card, and was informed that my insurance required a $150 copay upfront. Good thing Mr. Z had his wallet with him because I had not brought mine, seeing as how they instructed me to leave all valuables at home. What would you do if a neighbor or friend had brought you the hospital? Ask them to pay for you? There had been a message left on my phone the previous day from someone at the hospital "regarding your insurance". Too bad they didn't call me till 4:30 pm on the day before surgery, and I didn't get the message in time to call them back. The person didn't say anything about copay. Perhaps they could have included that info in the phone message? Just sayin'. </p> <p>So - goodbye to Mr. Z and back into the prep room or whatever it is called. My anxiety level went up another notch, but a very nice nurse soothed me a bit. Off with all the clothes, on with two of those lovely hospital gowns - the first with the opening to the back, second with the opening to the front, like a bathrobe. Tres chic. And a pair of those fab hospital slipper socks, with the non-skid treads on the bottom. Upside: warm toes. Downside: no one gets to see my pedicure. </p> <p>The very nice nurse spoke calmly and slowly to me, explaining that the anesthesiologist would come see me and then the doctor, and then I would go into the surgery room. The anesthesiologist flounced over to my corner, apparently bored and angry. She spoke so fast I could only understand every third word or so. Her obvious lack of interest in communicating with me and apparent disdain for her required task frightened me into silence. I was not happy that this was the person who would be in charge of my breathing, but I felt powerless. She was there for maybe a minute and then was gone. I was angry with her for being such a jerk, and angry with myself for not having the nerve to ask her to slow down so I could understand her. I mean, even if I hadn't been mentally impaired by anxiety it would still have been impossible to catch anything she said. </p> <p>Next the doctor came to speak with me, and he was all that the anesthesiologist was not: calm, friendly, reassuring, he spoke slowly and asked if I had any questions. And waited for me to think of questions. He asked for my permission to talk to Mr. Z after the procedure, and then asked if I wanted a copy of any photos he might take during the procedure. Photos? Ooh, yes please! </p> <p>Then suddenly it was time to go into the operating room, and my anxiety level spiked. There were four or five people in the room; I can't tell you what they all did as I was too anxious to take note, but they were very, very, very kind people. They were aware of my family history - I have a brother who, thirty years ago, was ruined during a routine hernia operation when he was not given enough oxygen; he's been in a nursing home ever since. The people in this operating room offered their sympathy, and reassured me. They told me that the whole time I would be sedated, blood pressure, oxygen level, and heart rate all would be constantly monitored. </p> <p>Before I got on the table in the operating room, I had to take off the "bathrobe" gown, leaving only the one that opens in the back. Then I had to lay down on my bare back with the gown just covering me. The table had a hole right about where your butt would go - I had to position my butt right at the edge of this hole. I didn't see any stirrups but I'm presuming they had to be there somewhere. Someone strapped a large belt over my waist, and my arms were taken to either side. At this point, as in my appendectomy and gallbladder surgeries, it felt weirdly like being put on a cross. Maybe that's just a peculiarly Catholic anxiety? One arm is devoted to monitoring equipment, I think, and the other goes for the iv. The whole setup leaves one feeling particularly vulnerable. By now I was shaking with anxiety, and tears were leaking out the corners of my eyes. One of those nice people took the edge of blanket covering me and gently wiped my eyes. That little gesture meant a great deal to me. The first prick of the needle in my hand burned - a local anesthetic, I was told - and then I felt something cool and it's a bit uncomfortable, and then...</p> <p><em>...hello! It's the recovery room! w00t! I'm still alive! And not brain-damaged! Whoa, but those are some mighty unpleasant cramps.</em> </p> <p>A nurse brought something that looked like a pool float, several long tubular sections joined together. She placed it on me and draped a blanket over top - soothing warmth all over. I think I heard someone say they inflate the pool float-y things with the hot air from a blow dryer, but possibly I just dreamed that in the drug haze. My thanks to whoever engineered that rig - it's very relaxing. Also, they gave me percocet (after a little ginger ale and a few crackers). Cramps, begone! </p> <p><a href="http://www.emedicinehealth.com/dilation_and_curettage_dandc/page4_em.htm#During%20the%20Procedure">Here is what I missed</a> thanks to the sedation:</p> <blockquote><p>Dilation (the first step): While grasping the cervix with a clamp, the doctor will pass a thin, flexible piece of metal called a sound to determine the depth and angle of the uterus. These measurements allow the doctor to know how far into the uterus the curette can be safely inserted. The usual method of dilation is to insert a thin, smooth metal rod gently along the vaginal canal and up into the tiny cervical opening. The rod is left in place for a moment, then withdrawn and replaced by a slightly larger rod. This process is repeated until the cervix has expanded to about the width of a finger. This method takes about 10 minutes...</p> <p>Hysteroscopy and curettage (the second step): After dilation, your doctor holds the vagina open again with the speculum. The doctor may also reach into the cervix with a tiny spoon to obtain a specimen of the cervical lining. At this point, the hysteroscope is usually inserted into the uterus so that the doctor may look at the inside of the uterus. The doctor may see fibroids, polyps, or overgrowths of the endometrium. At that time, instruments may be inserted through the hysteroscope and biopsy, or removal, of these things may be accomplished. </p> <p>The doctor will now place a slightly longer and larger curette through the dilated cervix and up into the uterus. This is a metal loop on the end of a long, thin handle. With steady, gentle strokes, the doctor will scrape or suction the uterine wall. This tissue is sent to the lab for analysis. When the curettage is completed, the instruments are removed.</p></blockquote> <p>Here's one of the pictures from my hysteroscopy. Don't ask me to interpret for you.</p> <p class="center"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska/wp-content/blogs.dir/405/files/2012/04/i-c043e85c90d2ea286f2da90586a52e02-uterus crop [320x200].jpg" alt="i-c043e85c90d2ea286f2da90586a52e02-uterus crop [320x200].jpg" /> </p> <p>I can't remember how long it was before they decided I could move from the bed in the recovery room, to a chair, or what the decision was based on, but pretty soon I was in the hospital version of a Barcalounger. They gave me pads to sop up the blood but surprisingly (to me) there really wasn't any blood flow. Before I got dressed, the nurse gave me a wet towel to clean myself; there apparently was a fair amount of blood <em>on</em> me from the procedure, but I wasn't bleeding. Mr. Z was brought in to hear the post-op instructions since I obviously couldn't be trusted to remember them. Then he went out to bring the car around to the exit, I got wheeled out to meet him, and we were on our way home. It was 10 a.m. </p> <p>Most of the rest of the day was spent lying around in a foggy post-sedation haze, while Mr. Z brought me this and that to eat, generally fussed over me, and kept asking me if I needed anything. Mr. Z rawks. I experienced some uncomfortable cramping throughout the day, but it was not intolerable. They sent me home with percocet for post-operative pain, and it was certainly adequate. Though I was told I might have bleeding which could be heavy, and could last up to two weeks, I have barely spotted. The recovery has been much easier than I expected. The doctor told me, and Mr. Z, that "everything looked good" and that he did not see anything of concern. </p> <p>I have a follow-up appointment with the doctor in a week, at which time I assume I'll hear about any biopsy results. This will be the <em>sixth appointment</em> in this saga, plus the procedure day itself. It is obvious that attending to your health takes serious amounts of time. How would a woman with a full-time job and very limited vacation or sick leave manage six appointments and a whole day off for the procedure, just to deal with ONE health issue? </p> <p>Post-op instructions included no heavy lifting for two weeks, and no douching, intercourse, or tampons for two weeks. I specifically asked about gardening and was told "no" for at least the next week or so. So of course, it rained like hell last night, blowing out the heat and humidity we'd been stuck with for days, leaving us with a day of perfect weather, and garden soil loosened by the rain, just begging to be weeded. By the time I can get back to the garden the weeds will be knee high and the soil baked dry again, I'm sure. I was casting longing looks at the garden all morning. Then, after what I thought was some relatively minor physical activity, I experienced another bout of cramping, so I decided against sneaking out to weed the garden without telling Mr. Z. I do not like being kept out of my garden. I will be glad when this time is over. </p> <p>And that's it! Now I am officially one of those people who shares every intimate detail of their lives with total strangers on the internet. You know, just like I promised myself I would never do. If you had asked me, when I first took up blogging, whether I'd be posting pictures of the inside of my uterus on my blog, I'm pretty sure I'd have answered "what the hell are you talking about?" And yet, here we are. Just don't tell my mom. </p> <p>A side note on women and gynecological procedures:</p> <p>Many women are survivors of sexual abuse or sexual assault. For them, even routine gynecological exams can be a traumatic experience. A procedure like a D&amp;C, which places one in an even more vulnerable state, can be even more difficult to undergo. It's important to be able to communicate openly with your health care provider about your history. A good gynecologist will talk with you about your fears and explore ways to reduce anxiety. These can include simple techniques like making sure that the health care provider tells you explicitly everything that he or she will do at each step before proceeding, and checking in with you periodically to see how you are doing. If you find it difficult to advocate for yourself in this way, you may want to take a trusted friend with you to your exam. Most gynecologists these days are aware that sexual abuse and sexual assault are all-too-common experiences for women, and that they can affect a woman's ability to tolerate exams and procedures. But if you run into someone who is not sympathetic, don't just put up with it, or worse, avoid taking care of your health because of it. Find a new doctor. </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/thusspakezuska" lang="" about="/author/thusspakezuska" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">thusspakezuska</a></span> <span>Thu, 07/24/2008 - 14:14</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/she-blogged-what" hreflang="en">She Blogged WHAT?</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-categories field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Categories</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/channel/brain-and-behavior" hreflang="en">Brain and Behavior</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307649" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216924736"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Z., you are my total hero.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307649&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LpYUsLKoSgZEKHSqT9uoSM83eFNQYhvX-Q3t4QAzBbg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/drugmonkey" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DrugMonkey (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307649">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307650" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216927165"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Zuska, you rock.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307650&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CKKvridrq7-B9QO7qTyZ7b-eujOA83deXeK7ni56GmM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sennoma.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bill (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307650">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307651" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216927700"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Mr. Z rawks, but so do you! I'm glad you shared this.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307651&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fZz7m26n2U74_IsGt-Dg2jUnEwmDNDpsYpf4_Ex47yc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://k8grrl.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Kate (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307651">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307652" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216927903"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow, that procedure freaks me out reading about it! Good job!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307652&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="p0gOTcbNEhisB9Ph7Pft-6notbLHWVUJ6QAe4l_J1rM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://academiccrossroads.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Academic (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307652">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307653" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216929204"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I really admire/am in awe of how you captured an experience that would've had me sobbing in the corner. Two little slits in my scrotum are absolutely nothing compared to a D&amp;C and yet hundreds of thousands of US women go through this annually with little attention or fanfare. The majority of these procedures are diagnostic with the potential for revealing bad news. I am glad to learn that the majority of the medical team were cognizant of the anxiety you felt.</p> <p>I especially appreciated how you finished with the commentary about special issues of women survivors of sexual abuse/assault.</p> <p>I am certain that many women who stumble upon this post will be grateful to you for writing it. I wish you a speedy recovery and a quick return to gardening.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307653&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ysjGfLcCuMRvQnVBDvniFPbqjbdbUc6QHfBqYGHEUCw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/terrasig" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Abel Pharmboy (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307653">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307654" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216929542"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Great post, Zuska!</p> <p>I had the same procedure done, along with removal of an E-I-E-I-Oma (no, seriously, a leiomyoma), under general anesthesia earlier this year. Reading your account, I'm glad that I remember almost none of it. My anxiety was not about the pain, but rather about the nausea from general anesthesia; fortunately, a surgeon friend told me what medication to ask for, and to emphasize that anesthesia made me VIOLENTLY ill. No problem, said the anesthesiologist, we'll give you something to take care of that. A friend of mine stayed with me in pre-op, and she had her toddler son with her, who was entertaining and cheerful for everyone, and took my mind off the impending surgery. Gotta love those anti-thrombosis stockings: so attractive!</p> <p><em>no douching, intercourse, or tampons for two weeks</em></p> <p>AKA "pelvic rest". The (male) recovery room nurse explained that to me, in between mocking the (female) hospital chaplain. I had very little pain or cramping, didn't even use most of the extra-strength Motrin. My main gripe was that my throat hurt from being intubated - I can only imagine how unpleasant it is following more than just a couple of hours.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307654&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="gKvCBJh08xGXygEUhHGTSnS70VyDhoM5qLm8KvbIoeM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barn Owl (not verified)</span> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307654">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307655" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216931823"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow, you are so brave - way braver than I am. You go, girl. And I too love that you ended with the commentary on gynecologists. . . seriously, finding someone you trust and are comfortable with is important no matter what your personal history is. As someone who for years saw gynecologists and NPs I wasn't comfortable with, I finally have one who doesn't make me feel weird or stressed. It not only reduces my anxiety, but makes those icky procedures much less painful. The body really is responsive to the brain.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307655&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="q-0nDzuFXi0qW_1xm9huWE9xYfzj8g7g7AtuUkj3ZGs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/bioephemera" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bioephemera (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307655">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307656" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216937822"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yep. Awesome post. Thank you so much for not letting the idea that women shouldn't ever talk about what goes on "down there" keep you from posting this. I often find myself saying that if women only felt that they could talk more openly about "feminine issues" all of this stuff would be a lot easier to handle.</p> <p>You most definitely rawk!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307656&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="nRnEL_Ptvbb8Ea-KT7f10hwzwJdG7-PoewM7j7n_SnA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://kidsndata.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">acmegirl (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307656">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307657" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216947563"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Great post, Zuska. I think that patient narratives like this should be a part of medical education. </p> <p>If I remember correctly from my Ob/Gyn clerkship, IMG_004 is a nice view of the junction between the fallopian tube and the uterus.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307657&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="A7Hei9GW0Cs6ZPIMWjMSi6D1QOcspoQGXWxNwxr7k-Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://hope-for-pandora.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">thomas robey (not verified)</a> on 24 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307657">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307658" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216961876"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>That is a great post. I remember when I was a little kid and one of my relatives had (what I assume to have been) such a procedure, and all anyone would say was (in an almost shameful whisper), "It's *women's* problems."</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307658&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4tiiIoOeNbG6siSBYK7yDFQuzRGrTddGS2Ka92Mvbbg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://physioprof.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">PhysioProf (not verified)</a> on 25 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307658">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307659" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216962739"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Zuska!<br /> This is a brave post, and I'm sure the information will be valuable to a lot of worried women.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307659&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6Fm0m2EbEAYhyzoWne1jd990Oeo64fALJJi04wbwWgE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://capacioushandbag.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">MissPrism (not verified)</a> on 25 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307659">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307660" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216969915"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Then suddenly it was time to go into the operating room, and my anxiety level spiked. There were four or five people in the room"</p> <p>Oooh, yes, i know this feeling. It isn't quite the same at all, but i had an Essure done almost 2 years ago now, for which they leave you awake. I'm convinced the sedatives are not for the pain, but to lull you into not caring that there are 8 people all staring at your naked lower half.</p> <p>"Many women are survivors of sexual abuse or sexual assault. For them, even routine gynecological exams can be a traumatic experience."</p> <p>THIS. Not just from the POV of the patient, being one's own advocate is important, but for the health care provider - not everybody is ready yet to discuss the trauma. Extra sensitivity is really helpful with those people, as well as the ones who just flat don't remember yet but still experience the anxiety but aren't entirely certain why.</p> <p>Thanks for a great post Zuska!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307660&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="mMhzAc5tA5_9tS4VyOHJwdsW20L7WR0p8bU12X3dFKw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">yttrai (not verified)</span> on 25 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307660">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307661" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216971381"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thanks for sharing this.</p> <p>Some years back I had a D&amp;C, going after known fibroids. Since Duke was unable to drive me, I scheduled it for a holiday week when one of the kids was home and available to get me there and back. However, I did not expect him to have to make any decisions with the doctor during the procedure. </p> <p>Given a choice between an epidural (after which they recommend an overnight in the hospital to make sure you are competent to ambulate) or a saddle block (local), I chose the latter. The doctor was dubious, but having had long hard labors to produce 4 children I knew my pain tolerance.</p> <p>It worked. During the procedure I could feel pressure, but no real pain. Recovery was OK (I fixed dinner that night). All-in-all a necessary inconvenience to stop the heavy bleeding that had become part of my life.</p> <p>The no gardening is to guard against you lifting, or even pulling weeds which might strain your back muscles that were traumatized by the procedure.</p> <p>Hope you are well past it by now.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307661&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pZGm6FdBBpawkyEUpo7QpL3S09xQOduCz6Cesa7Rtvo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Super Sally (not verified)</span> on 25 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307661">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307662" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1216975347"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thanks for this post! I wonder if a friend can come over and garden while you sit nearby--my mom did too much walking several days after the procedure and then had lots of bleeding. I think it's really great that you blogged about this--I bet anyone who reads this (like me) and then needs this procedure someday will feel much more prepared.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307662&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="e_RH84HNehT8c51-h2thn-vpPFwCW-HieJ306X_5F88"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">anon (not verified)</span> on 25 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307662">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307663" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217001449"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Cool blog usage!</p> <p>I had this procedure done about three years ago, in Canada. I live in a rural area, and there is a gynocologist who comes out with a nurse once a month to the local six GP medical centre. Or you can go to another doctor if you prefer, but for that you have to go into the city an hour's drive away. </p> <p>There were a few differences, but not many. My gynocologist did the same business of trying for a biopsy sample without a sedative, but desisted immediately, as soon as I expressed that I was hurtin'. I was fifty three at the time and hadn't had even any spotting for two years (until then), so was considered menopausal. So I was surprised to be given a pregnancy test first thing - standard, apparently.</p> <p>Only one of my arms was used for anything, at least while I was still conscious, and the anaesthesiologist was kind and even humourous. I woke up with an oxygen mask on my face, and had to breathe for about five minutes to get my oxygen levels up before being allowed to leave with a friend. Had very little pain or bleeding.</p> <p>At my follow-up appointment, I got the good news that nothing was wrong at all, and when I pressed for a reason for the bleeding, which had felt and proceeded exactly like a normal, light menstrual period, was told it may very well have been just that. Don't give up on the birth control too soon, people.</p> <p>So, two appointments and the procedure.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307663&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5JqSMKeJTKz60viVQgNgxWQccaK8uMBkl6KOJjjo--0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bee (not verified)</span> on 25 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307663">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307664" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217001650"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I lied - three appointments, because I did have an ultrasound done as well. If you whimper a little because your bladder is exploding, they let you go before all the pregnant ladies.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307664&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-cbqheSa8xE2QJ96CtrH1oGtG1Eg8X8SdlgiVF_4fLc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bee (not verified)</span> on 25 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307664">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307665" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217054745"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I had a hernia surgery three years ago, and I felt a twinge of recall at the bewilderment of being wheeled into the OR and seeing so much commotion going on. I had toured the very same OR with my son prior to my surgery as part of a pre-op pediatrics program at the hospital. I just didn't remember them discussing how many people would be involved.</p> <p>Then the anesthesiologist came in and gave me his full, caring attention. He prepped my arm, talked baseball while working, looked me in the eye when explaining what he would be doing while I was under. He then inserted the IV, and I blinked. Or so it seemed, but when I opened my eyes I was in a comfy chair with a blanket.</p> <p>While appreciate the surgeon and the remainder of the staff in the OR, the anesthesiologist made all the difference in my experience.</p> <p>I am sorry you had that experience with your anesthesiologist, Zuska. Thanks for blogging this, and also for bringing up the final segment amount sexual abuse trauma and advocacy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307665&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_HwLset4ky7wgN2DhNKzwNQYVrG3JqXpycYwi8mPbCs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tuibguy.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mike Haubrich, FCD (not verified)</a> on 26 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307665">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307666" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217067039"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm with you on the "just a little cramping" lie. I had an IUD inserted some years ago and boy hardy did that cramping hurt. I guess it must be a little bit like being in labor (never experienced that myself), but without the natural opiates!</p> <p>I also had a friend in college who had to get some of those "suspicious cells" burned off her cervix with LN. The (male) doctor assured her it wouldn't hurt. And he was wrong. Very wrong! It's like grad school when I used to get pinched by other kids, then I'd cry, and then they'd tell me "that didn't hurt", as though my nerves were reporting to their brain!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307666&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hYQg5i35ifYPV15MwKtP1LwwrCoiA9kA0ioEBmM5Eyg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://waywardelf.blogpost.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Andrea grant (not verified)</a> on 26 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307666">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307667" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217197330"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Zuska, get well soon!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307667&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="AMy947YfG9g94NV3H6nIEFROszA6axlSrlO068pb8rs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">yeesh (not verified)</span> on 27 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307667">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307668" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217206270"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hey, I beat you. Last year I blogged my radical hyst. for invasive cancer. Actually I blogged the pap, colposcopy, D&amp;C and hysteroscopy also.</p> <p>you are right about those non-painful biopsies. I remember the day I had my Colp and biopsies. The plan was that he would take one or two and "they will not hurt." Well he took 12 and let me tell you, thats alot of pain involved. The first 4 I tolerated pretty well and after that each one was more and more painful until I thought I would pass out. the nurse thought I was going to. We were both begging him to stop at about number 10.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307668&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KxaOJa9NTK5glRBuEPBQ97R6w9ZaEqbtoJqxbWF5NKo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cathy (not verified)</span> on 27 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307668">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307669" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217210512"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Z, I reposted my hyst and cancer post for you if you would like to read it. <a href="http://cathysplacetoblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/myths-lies-and-misconceptionsa-story-of.html">http://cathysplacetoblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/myths-lies-and-misconcept…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307669&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="V5tip8SuI1hH34RjLumTBNUi7Id9SN6ZAO2VI1pin-Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://cathysplacetoblog.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">cathy (not verified)</a> on 27 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307669">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307670" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217260850"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Zuska,<br /> thanks for blogging this. For some reason California Kaiser (at least in the early 2000's) does not do general anesthesia for D &amp; C's &amp; hysteroscopies. I was awake for mine, which ended up being just a hysteroscopy &amp; biopsy (fibroids). I sort of sat up and looked at the monitor at the inside of my uterus while they looked around. While I would never say the experience was cool (lots of crampiness) the inside of my uterus was pretty neat. Also I got to see the fibroid that was causing me to bleed to the point of having a transfusion.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307670&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="q701V7xALndiN6yKizi1UUdfD-PSefKTaq8IUzlRnDU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sea creature (not verified)</span> on 28 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307670">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307671" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217272940"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>wow. Now that's some overshare. Get Better Soon!!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307671&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Pl9QO8haroD0wh2-7ll282szx7VZbGVTGFZAzxmrIR0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JC (not verified)</span> on 28 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307671">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307672" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217364983"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow, Zuska. You amaze me more every day. I think it's so important that we share things like this in order to demystify (and destigmative) the female body and the appropriate medical procedures to care for it. Thanks for sharing.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307672&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="DdwC1wrMsWknbPeepoKCmRdHqg6bKbcZ4XUkpLwTLHc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/sciencewoman/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">ScienceWoman (not verified)</a> on 29 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307672">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307673" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217421256"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I think this is the first time I comment here.</p> <p>Way to go!</p> <p>I'll take to heart your point about informing your doctor, etc., about prior abuse; even letting them know about the fear and the reasons for it may help with the anxiety level. I'll do that next time.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307673&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="alWL5j-CNePx6K4hjz88x02usB6MxSQ46rGnPy9A5Ps"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://wanderinweeta.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Susannah (not verified)</a> on 30 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307673">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307674" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217516078"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I want to thank all of you so much for commenting here. I was fairly nervous about posting this, precisely because of that whole stigma about "wimmin's parts should be kept sekrit" stuff. The responses are very heartening. </p> <p>And Susannah, I am so glad you commented! I do hope you will be able to speak up, and that speaking up will help you manage the fear and anxiety a little better. If your doctor is not receptive and helpful when you speak up - find another doctor!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307674&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CLm1JaXjHR2LJahL_eXnKHCCbO3f8IQ6oUPxedGMxeQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zuska (not verified)</a> on 31 Jul 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307674">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307675" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217589107"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm way behind the curve on comments here, but I just wanted to say...this WAS brave of you to blog this.</p> <p>And also, I could feel my own uterus cringing and twitching while I read it. Owwww<a href="http://www......nnnnggggggnnnnnneeeeeee">www......nnnnggggggnnnnnneeeeeee</a>......</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307675&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="p9aXLeipur8JkZH2YWMxKHR4yQyXlX9i0ICY7IMxieQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Luna_the_cat (not verified)</span> on 01 Aug 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307675">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307676" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217665478"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I am 48, had some unexplained bleeding and an inconclusive endometrial biopsy. So next Friday, I too, am scheduled for a D&amp;C. My first surgery every, and I am quite nervous. </p> <p>I am planning to ask for MAC sedation instead of a general. The thought of being put completely out terrifies me. </p> <p>Did you receive your results?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307676&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="HuGIHsUP68nQe-t4esQwcTthl_zWKX6cMTKjVB9Pi-U"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">anita (not verified)</span> on 02 Aug 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307676">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307677" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1217687050"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yes, had my follow up visit this week and everything was fine, and got the a-ok from the doc to resume all regular activities.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307677&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aRGFK2bUTmDOUo3EfRC00sJWYhCYNzUn7SWizj3Bb18"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zuska (not verified)</a> on 02 Aug 2008 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307677">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307678" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1231332066"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Zuska,<br /> I am thankful I found your blog today. I am scheduled for my own D&amp;C w/ hysteroscopy in a couple of weeks. My biggest problem is fear of the anaesthesia (having never had any) and the fact that I am anxious re: anything medical lately. This all started for me a bit after my sister died last year. I would like to put it off, but the ultrasound showed a polyp and after agonizing on this for a month, I think I just have to get through it and put it behind me.<br /> The clinical information is out there, but your blog told me what a woman going through this really feels. I believe I will be thinking of you as I calm myself before the procedure. Power to the Z!! Thank you for your honesty. :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307678&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BGIbCl5cuOnUBQx3yjZZd-Tvg87sc5LiY1oF3uIQgDA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">december julep (not verified)</span> on 07 Jan 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307678">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307679" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1234156109"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thanks so much for posting this. I too am scheduled for a D&amp;C with polyp removal in a few weeks, which will be combined with gallbladder surgery, so I'll be out with general anesthesia, for which I'm grateful. Still, I'm very, very apprehensive about the whole thing, and especially about how I'll deal with cramping and bleeding afterward (I am one of those abuse survivors, and the whole notion of having to be so aware of my gynecological self on a constant basis for an extended period of time is extremely disquieting at best). It really did help to have a description from a real person, rather than just the clinical details -- thank you so much for sharing this and facilitating the conversation and comments from other women (and thanks to all of them too).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307679&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3uFe3TtS-sBMMguq2fUAHddWWIvZGtmk-MSeg9NgauY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">caryll (not verified)</span> on 09 Feb 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307679">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307680" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1234176121"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Caryll, thanks for reading and I'm glad we all could be of some help. I wish you the best of luck and, if you are reading this comment, come back and tell us how things went for you. Don't be afraid to ask questions all along the way and ask them to slow down and repeat stuff and give you time to take a breath and catch up if things are getting really traumatic for you. Hang in there! You will make it through okay.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307680&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="REb0QlcO3QnV-JjAjIWjP9t0dATb7bnQr_zLTr-yUo8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/thusspakezuska" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Zuska (not verified)</a> on 09 Feb 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307680">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307681" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1235732535"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thank you for this blog. It really helps to read about someone else going through the process. I just had this procedure done late yesterday and I'm trying to stay in bed and rest. I'm also a fan of gardening. It's been in the upper 70's and my garden is calling for me.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307681&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6aZLWllkg-efOOhILzEGNZ_pPCBext_uhbi10eqe0eU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Sher (not verified)</span> on 27 Feb 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307681">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307682" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1239878254"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I know it's been awhile since you wrote this blog, but I wanted to thank you anyways. I'm scheduled for a D&amp;C and am very nervous. Your account is helping to soothe some of my nerves. It's good to hear other women's accounts of making it through this. Your story also made me aware that they didn't even think to warn me about the "no heavy lifting" bit, which is going to be a major problem for me as it's REQUIRED for the job that I have to do only 4 days after the operation. Your story is the first time I've heard of this post-op requirement. I'm going to have to discuss that little oversight with the doc. They've been rushing me towards doing it because I'm moving out of the state within 3 days of having it done. They even want to go ahead despite a yeast infection, which worries me about the spread of infection. The doctor wanted to do it only under local anesthesia, which I discovered actually only numbs your cervix and NOT your uterus. All because "oh it won't be that bad that you need to be knocked out." The more I read other's accounts of D&amp;C's, the more I become convinced that I'm in the right to insist on general anesthesia. I don't want to be awake for that. And I say this despite being scared of IV's (VERY painful past IV experiences). I'm going to be thinking of what you wrote to help calm myself down while at the hospital. It's definitely reassuring to think of all the women who have gone before. Thank-you very much for sharing! I'm glad to hear that everything turned out fine for you in the end!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307682&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Y2iRhiDRajRUNUP_8ayAFtP_394zRge-XRRRn0t6Pi0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Myra (not verified)</span> on 16 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307682">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307683" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1243523618"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thanks so much for sharing. I did experience a bit of my own cramping while reading it - definitely a sign that this was incredible relateable.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307683&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vdgdzyKbszgVxgBuxzRraWjYcHmzxVGR_FbhkTyhZ-k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://angineer.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Angie (not verified)</a> on 28 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307683">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307684" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1247687866"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thank you so much for writing that. I'm actually having the same procedure done next week and was kind of nervous about the whole thing. They explain it to you but it's always good to get a first person point of view. I've had a d&amp;c before but not the hysteroscopy so I was a little curious how that was performed. Thanks again!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307684&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JEHo7bDRlVKGLrZDq_qJbirdtu8eLUoYmFP6xSscIug"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">marie (not verified)</span> on 15 Jul 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307684">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307685" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1263345978"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>very inforamtive blog<br /> here i want to share about tubal reversal<br /> surgical procedure that restores fertility to women after a tubal ligation</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307685&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="P_yepUSs8TYIMBMIncLRY1D7OjhExLMWxlyDPEI5M3k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mybabydoc.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">tubal reversal (not verified)</a> on 12 Jan 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307685">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307686" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266608279"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thank you for sharing this. I found it while searching for information on a D&amp;C. I am scheduled for one in a few weeks and am anxiety about not only the procedure but the recovery. (part of the reason I am going in is because of extremely painful periods..so am not a fan of cramping) I love your part about about Mr Z, and how he took such good care of you. My husband is the same way and unfortunatly will still be overseas when i have this procedure done and I won't be able to be spoiled by him. thank goodness I have my wonderful teenage daughters who will help me out. anyway, thanks again for posting. i feel better now.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307686&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Ik5bjZORGwRVkPKHxp3qCx24AZyCSC030Lu2RajFqeE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jennifer (not verified)</span> on 19 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307686">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2307687" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1280464319"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I think that you are amazing for sharing this. I just happened to be sitting at the computer "googleing" as I put it in formation on a D&amp;C and hystroscopy. I am having this procedure on Monday, 3 days from now. I went through the lab work you spoke of, and even without Plavix, have a horrible bruise! You're blog was very informative, and has helped to better set my nerves at ease. Thank you so much for sharing.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2307687&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zvqw27Q4VDlqopCqDwn_JHSDmdk13IUGxYW5YiSs2bY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Beth (not verified)</span> on 30 Jul 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/29630/feed#comment-2307687">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/thusspakezuska/2008/07/24/why-not-blogging-my-d-c%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:14:37 +0000 thusspakezuska 115688 at https://scienceblogs.com