defence https://scienceblogs.com/ en Crickets forewarn their offspring about predators before they're born https://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2010/02/09/crickets-forewarn-their-offspring-about-predators-before-the <span>Crickets forewarn their offspring about predators before they&#039;re born</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p class=" "><span>Mothers can teach their children much about the world, but some mothers can do it without ever meeting their young. Take the field cricket <em>Gryllus pennsylvanicus</em>. A female cricket isn't exactly a caring mother. Once she lays her eggs, she abandons them to their fate. But amazingly, she can also forewarn her young of the dangers they might face. If a pregnant female is exposed to a wolf spider, her experiences affect her unborn young. When they hatch, the baby crickets are more likely to freeze when they smell wolf spiders nearby. </span> </p> <p class=" "><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-e32a176f5ccf3b9b7c53309769fbbbd6-Cricket.jpg" alt="i-e32a176f5ccf3b9b7c53309769fbbbd6-Cricket.jpg" /><span>If mothers sense a threat in their environment, there are clear advantages in being able to prepare her young to face those threats. Over the last decade or so, scientists have discovered that many animal and plant mothers </span><a href="http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v401/n6748/abs/401060a0.html"><span>do exactly this</span></a><span>, even before their young are born. If pregnant water fleas are exposed to the smell of a predatory midge, they produce young that are armed with larger "crowns-of-thorn", defensive spiky helmets that make them difficult mouthfuls. In the same way, aphids produce more winged offspring if they sense danger. Even the humble radish can generate a generation with sharp, spiky hairs. </span> </p> <p class=" "><span>In all of these examples, the adaptations are physical ones. The case of the crickets, documented by Jonathan Storm and Steven Lima at Indiana State University, is the clearest example yet of mothers preparing their young for life by influencing their <em>behaviour</em>. Physical defences wouldn't do much good here, for even the largest of crickets are easy pickings for spiders. </span> </p> <p class=" "><span>Storm and Lima bred crickets that had never seen a wolf spider before. They placed pregnant females in cages with wolf spiders whose killing fangs had been disabled with wax. After a while, the females were removed and allowed to lay their eggs. Storm and Lima collected the hatchlings and placed them in plastic arenas lined in paper saturated with the faeces and silk lines of wolf spiders. </span> </p> <!--more--><p class=" "><span>Compared to youngsters born to naive mothers, those born to females with experiences of spiders were 27% more likely to freeze when surrounded by their silk or droppings. If the arenas were lined with clean paper, or paper saturated with cricket odours, the youngsters didn't behave any differently - it was only the spider smells that kept them still. </span> </p> <p class=" "><span>This small difference in behaviour often meant the difference between life and death. Storm and Lima placed the young crickets in naturalistic environments, complete with hiding places. When spiders were introduced, the forewarned youngsters spent about twice as long in their refuges and they survived for much longer. </span> </p> <p class=" "><span>The same thing happens in the wild. Storm and Lima collected pregnant female crickets from areas where wolf spiders are known to prowl, and others that are free of these hunters. Just as in their lab experiments, the hatchlings were more wary of spidery smells if their mothers lived in areas where spiders roamed. And it's clearly the <em>mother's </em>experiences that change her offspring's behaviour. When Storm and Lima exposed the eggs or nymphs of naive females to the scent of spiders, the youngsters' behaviour weren't affected. </span> </p> <p class=" "><span>Predators are likely to pose constant threats to a prey species from generation to generation. As such, Storm and Lima think that these sorts of pre-natal parental tip-offs should be fairly common in nature. It's just that we haven't looked very hard for them yet. In other possible examples, </span><a href="http://www.jstor.org/pss/4222271"><span>pregnant skinks</span></a><span> that smell snakes on the air produce young that flick their tongues out more often when snakes around. </span> </p> <p class=" "><span>For now, we don't know how the mother crickets manage to tip off their young. Their behaviour could be changed through "epigenetic" means, by adding molecular tags onto their DNA that change the way specific genes are used and controlled. A mother could also convey information to her unborn young with hormones. By placing the right balance of hormones into her eggs, she could influence the development of her offspring's defensive behaviour. </span><span style="font-family: &quot;Minion-Regular&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;"></span> </p> <p class=" "><strong>Reference:</strong> <span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=The+American+Naturalist&amp;rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1086%2F650443&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fresearchblogging.org&amp;rft.atitle=Mothers+Forewarn+Offspring+about+Predators%3A+A+Transgenerational+Maternal+Effect+on+Behavior&amp;rft.issn=0003-0147&amp;rft.date=2010&amp;rft.volume=175&amp;rft.issue=3&amp;rft.spage=382&amp;rft.epage=390&amp;rft.artnum=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.journals.uchicago.edu%2Fdoi%2Fabs%2F10.1086%2F650443&amp;rft.au=Storm%2C+J.&amp;rft.au=Lima%2C+S.&amp;rfe_dat=bpr3.included=1;bpr3.tags=">Storm, J., &amp; Lima, S. (2010). Mothers Forewarn Offspring about Predators: A Transgenerational Maternal Effect on Behavior <span style="font-style: italic;">The American Naturalist, 175</span> (3), 382-390 DOI: <a rev="review" href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1086/650443">10.1086/650443</a></span> </p> <p><strong>Image: </strong>by Cody Hough<br /> </p> <p><strong>More on animal mums:<br /> <br /></strong> </p> <ul> <li><a id="a132391" href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/09/paper_wasps_-_caring_mothers_evolved_into_selfless_workers.php">Paper wasps - caring mothers evolved into selfless workers</a></li> <li><a id="a087688" href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2008/09/fearless_mice_are_neglectful_mothers_but_social_butterflies.php">Fearless mice are neglectful mothers but social butterflies</a></li> <li><a id="a087153" href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2008/10/maternal_hormone_shuts_down_babys_brain_cells_during_birth.php">Maternal hormone shuts down baby's brain cells during birth</a></li> <li><a id="a096453" href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2008/12/sponging_dolphins_keep_it_in_the_family.php">Sponging dolphins keep it in the family</a></li> </ul> <p><a href="http://twitter.com/edyong209"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-77217d2c5311c2be408065c3c076b83e-Twitter.jpg" alt="i-77217d2c5311c2be408065c3c076b83e-Twitter.jpg" /></a> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Not-Exactly-Rocket-Science/209972267204?ref=ts"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-988017b08cce458f49765389f9af0675-Facebook.jpg" alt="i-988017b08cce458f49765389f9af0675-Facebook.jpg" /></a> <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/scienceblogs/Ruxi"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-6f3b46114afd5e1e9660f1f502bf6836-Feed.jpg" alt="i-6f3b46114afd5e1e9660f1f502bf6836-Feed.jpg" /></a> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Not-Exactly-Rocket-Science-Yong/dp/1409242285"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-deec675bab6f2b978e687ca6294b41a5-Book.jpg" alt="i-deec675bab6f2b978e687ca6294b41a5-Book.jpg" /></a> </p> <p><script type="text/javascript"> <!--//--><![CDATA[// ><!-- tweetmeme_style = 'compact'; 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(Amazon suggests it must have been "Unraveling DNA" by Kamenetski, 1993.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2345312&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EXTTmi9YRSpN7ASBR3RgDcZVtpgF7DJa8k-N65UR14s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Nathan Myers (not verified)</span> on 09 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2345312">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2345313" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1265739698"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Never believed that mad monk Mendel and that fellow Darwin. </p> <p><i>Natural Cynic</i>, I am sure, agrees that it is about time for LaMarck to be recognized.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2345313&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="X6Ee7q1cSXJdvuXlpPROCbm7pgrnFvgnjobFpXeAscA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://foxyurl.com/7Bh" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pietr Hitzig (not verified)</a> on 09 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2345313">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2345314" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1265763630"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is awesome. It would be extremely difficult, but supremely interesting and important, to find out whether a similar effect occurs in humans...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2345314&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="P1OX8hNlvsh-o_PrM70MGb9eE9WzuTPtaR21u6JXX3w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ionian-enchantment.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael Meadon (not verified)</a> on 09 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2345314">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2345315" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1265793136"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>it sorta can, take a look at statistics of woman who were abused or had an addiction or some such during pregnancy, then (if applicable) how the children reacted to the susbstance/stimuli.<br /> In short if a woman had a drug problem what was the effect (if any) on her shild when old enough to act on his/her own.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2345315&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="puLwO9ZhCQJO_MLZo8H0Xm6CUPFYm6v2smdrN5Hu-OI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Blargh (not verified)</span> on 10 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2345315">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2345316" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1265822872"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Blargh, yeah, sure. But there are <i>many</i> confounds in such comparisons. If the offspring of drug users, say, are prone to delinquency, is that because they share genes with their drug-using parents that predisposes them both to drug-use and delinquency? Or is it because of damage sustained in the womb due to drug use? Or is it this kind of cricket-like epigenetic warning? We can't know...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2345316&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="AfhivlXMCGthqYeD-7k7PklBlX9JN-SFg_NxZfntziM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ionian-enchantment.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael Meadon (not verified)</a> on 10 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2345316">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2345317" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266299986"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>See: <a href="http://akshatrathi.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/carving-personalities-from-the-womb/">http://akshatrathi.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/carving-personalities-from-…</a><br /> (Though there is a huge oft-uncontrolled for confound: genetics).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2345317&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="WVMj4rmkC6UyjhelAm6G95si3EymF7VFMmdo9uEaFSQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ionian-enchantment.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael Meadon (not verified)</a> on 16 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2345317">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2345318" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266608444"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I just wanted to stick up for crickets and say that they're not ALL so helpless; Jerusalem crickets are said to be able to deliver a nasty bite.<br /> I feel better now.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2345318&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iLyGmfAjS4ZEbsUXoU9IcAwUTLYYRM8jr7eqD836wEE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Christa (not verified)</span> on 19 Feb 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2345318">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/notrocketscience/2010/02/09/crickets-forewarn-their-offspring-about-predators-before-the%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:30:40 +0000 edyong 120435 at https://scienceblogs.com Tiger moths jam the sonar of bats https://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/07/17/tiger-moths-jam-the-sonar-of-bats <span>Tiger moths jam the sonar of bats</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://www.researchblogging.org/"><img class="inset" src="http://www.researchblogging.org/public/citation_icons/rb2_large_gray.png" alt="Blogging on Peer-Reviewed Research" width="70" height="85" /></a><br /> Bats view the world in echoes, timing the reflections of their own ultrasonic calls to navigate and hunt. This biological sonar, or echolocation, has made them masters of the night sky; it's so sensitive that some species take moths and other insects on the wing, while others <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgBOH-h6qwk">pluck spiders from their webs</a><strong> </strong>without entangling themselves in silk. But with such an efficient technology, it was only a matter of time before their quarry developed countermeasures. </p> <p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-0496538b080096b2e7cca3db177c6329-Bat_vs_moth.jpg" alt="i-0496538b080096b2e7cca3db177c6329-Bat_vs_moth.jpg" />Some insects gained ears; others simply rely on outmanoeuvring their attackers. But one group, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctiidae">tiger moths</a>, play bats at their own game. When attacked, they unleash ultrasonic clicks of their own to jam the calls of their pursuers, disrupting their ability to accurately gauge distances or even feigning echoes off non-existent objects. </p> <p>This technique has been suggested ever since moths were first discovered to click several decades ago, but Aaron Corcoran from Wake Forest University has found the first conclusive evidence that moths actually do this. They pitted moths of the species <em>Bertholdia trigon</em>) against four big brown bats (<em>Eptesicus fuscus</em>) against each other over the course of three days, in gladiatorial arenas surveyed by high-speed infrared cameras and ultrasonic microphones. </p> <p>When the three bats were pitted against moths in flight, they only managed to snag <em>B.trigona</em> on around one in five attempts. Even if the moths were tethered onto a stump, the bats still <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZ2hNZsCuE">fumbled their approach at the last minute</a>. A related moth species that doesn't click fared much worse and almost always succumbed to the bats. </p> <p class="center"> <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vrZ2hNZsCuE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vrZ2hNZsCuE&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></p> <!--more--><p>Tiger moths make their clicks using an organ called a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymbal">tymbal</a>, and by cutting this away, Corcoran managed offer muted individuals to the bats. Deprived of their organic castanets, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgq12GJV-qA&amp;eurl=http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/07/mothjam/&amp;feature=player_embedded">the vast majority of moths were eaten</a>, proving that the clicks were the cause behind the bats' failure. That also rules out the possibility that the clicks advertise the fact that the moths are unpalatable or poisonous, for the bats were all to happy to munch away on their silenced prey. Indeed, after the moths start clicking, the bats carry on with their attack - they just fail to actually close the deal. That too suggests that the clicks aren't off-putting in themselves. </p> <p class="center"> <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Qgq12GJV-qA&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Qgq12GJV-qA&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object></p> <p>Over the course of a week, the bats didn't become any worse or any better at capturing clicking moths. This implies that they don't need to learn anything about the defence, which again rules out the idea that the noises advertise a poor taste. It also rules out the idea that the clicks are meant to startle approaching bats, for experienced animals would soon become accustomed to that and learn to carry through with the chase. That didn't happen, even if it was the same moth and the bats were having another shot, seconds after a failed attempt </p> <p>The only remaining possibility is that the bats were jamming the bats - it's the sort of defence that is neither enhanced nor diminished by experience on the part of the bat, which is exactly what the data showed. The bats' behaviour also supported this theory. When they take other moths, their attack follows a regular pattern - approach the target, track its movements, and swoop in for the kill, all accompanied by their own distinct style of sonar pulse. But bats attacking clicking moths become confused, going back and forth along their chain of attack. </p> <p>It's clear that not all species of tiger moths click to jam bat sonar, and Corcoran suggests that originally, the noises <em>did </em>evolve to signal a foul taste. Indeed, <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/05/moths_mimic_each_others_sounds_to_fool_hungry_bats.php">some moths mimic each others' sounds </a>to fool hungry bats. That, however, was a relatively simple defence and one that could be easily penetrated through experience. It was a stepping-stone to the more sophisticated jamming technique, the latest countermeasure in the arms race between bat and moth. </p> <p class="center"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-bcfe52594f3b4d7c2fb622c4337ee1a4-Moth_bats.jpg" alt="i-bcfe52594f3b4d7c2fb622c4337ee1a4-Moth_bats.jpg" /> </p> <p><strong>Reference: </strong>Science 10.1126/science.1174096 </p> <p><strong>More on bats and moths: </strong><a id="a119397" href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/05/moths_mimic_each_others_sounds_to_fool_hungry_bats.php">Moths mimic each others' sounds to fool hungry bats</a> </p> <p><a href="http://openlab.wufoo.com/forms/submission-form/"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/clock/Open_Lab_2009_150x100.jpg" /></a></p> <script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"> <!--//--><![CDATA[// ><!-- //--><!]]> </script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.reddit.com/button.js?t=2"> <!--//--><![CDATA[// ><!-- //--><!]]> </script><p> <a href="http://twitter.com/edyong209/"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-77217d2c5311c2be408065c3c076b83e-Twitter.jpg" alt="i-77217d2c5311c2be408065c3c076b83e-Twitter.jpg" /></a> <a href="http://feeds2.feedburner.com/scienceblogs/Ruxi"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-3a7f588680ea1320f197adb2d285d99f-RSS.jpg" alt="i-3a7f588680ea1320f197adb2d285d99f-RSS.jpg" /></a> </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/notrocketscience" lang="" about="/notrocketscience" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">edyong</a></span> <span>Fri, 07/17/2009 - 03:30</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/animal-behaviour" hreflang="en">animal behaviour</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/animals" hreflang="en">animals</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bats" hreflang="en">bats</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/butterflies-and-moths" hreflang="en">Butterflies and moths</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/insects" hreflang="en">insects</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/invertebrates" hreflang="en">Invertebrates</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mammals" hreflang="en">mammals</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/predators-and-prey" hreflang="en">Predators and prey</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bat" hreflang="en">bat</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/click" hreflang="en">click</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/defence" hreflang="en">defence</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/jam" hreflang="en">jam</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/sonar" hreflang="en">sonar</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/tiger-moth" hreflang="en">tiger moth</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ultrasonic" hreflang="en">ultrasonic</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/animal-behaviour" hreflang="en">animal behaviour</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/animals" hreflang="en">animals</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bats" hreflang="en">bats</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/insects" hreflang="en">insects</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mammals" hreflang="en">mammals</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2343319" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1247825680"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Correlated noise is the bane of any ranging system. It isn't that it makes the solution harder to find, but rather that the solution may be wrong, and if multiple solutions are seen they can't all be right.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2343319&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9i6sLBzIdc9MXMIOwJ98bqiK4RBATJOuTsjZSzC7jVo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">CRM-114 (not verified)</span> on 17 Jul 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2343319">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2343320" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1247829151"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Pure evil. That's what moths are. Does it shock me they control the powers of darkness? Not one bit.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2343320&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iyztMEpHUQo5Ta3N0Eg4SitaIbRKKxsTsZtMXYabobs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://observationsofanerd.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Christie (not verified)</a> on 17 Jul 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2343320">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2343321" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1247829289"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yeah, jamming my arse. If you pause the first video just right, you can spot the moment where the moth hits the bat with black magic.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2343321&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="65z1CaWWd8ujgOZlUT8OSyGN85Bm4JdAZMKhWW-A5Eo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ed Yong (not verified)</span> on 17 Jul 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2343321">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2343322" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1247832876"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Fascinating. I feel sorry for the moths getting things cut out of them for the experiment. Not pleasant. But the second comment reminded me of one of my children's views on moths.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2343322&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-OX9U37gw0teZ5JCQKRX6Nfak8VqNXVYVti_uGEmJsE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://liliannattel.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lilian Nattel (not verified)</a> on 17 Jul 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2343322">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2343323" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1247834279"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>There's just something about this sentence that reminds me of cheesy old science fiction movies (or current Saturday offering from SyPhy( nee SciFi)): <i>"They pitted moths of the species Bertholdia trigon) against four big brown bats (Eptesicus fuscus) against each other over the course of three days, in gladiatorial arenas surveyed by high-speed infrared cameras and ultrasonic microphones."</i> ... but don't you have an extra "against" phrase in there?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2343323&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yakyKkKxpM-J5hREkipm-tuCGVtcxV9fxh_9m1fmFto"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Guy (not verified)</span> on 17 Jul 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2343323">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/notrocketscience/2009/07/17/tiger-moths-jam-the-sonar-of-bats%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:30:32 +0000 edyong 120219 at https://scienceblogs.com Retrocyclins: a defence against HIV, reawakened after 7 million years https://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/04/29/retrocyclins-a-defence-against-hiv-reawakened-after-7-millio <span>Retrocyclins: a defence against HIV, reawakened after 7 million years</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://www.researchblogging.org/"><img class="inset" src="http://www.researchblogging.org/public/citation_icons/rb2_large_gray.png" alt="Blogging on Peer-Reviewed Research" width="70" height="85" /></a>HIV is an elusive adversary. The virus is so good at fooling the immune system that the quest for an HIV vaccine, or even a countermeasure to resist infections, has spanned two fruitless decades. But maybe a defence has been lurking in our genomes all this time. </p> <p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-f022d8022405d1ad31494fe962f388db-HIV_Daughter_Particles.jpg" alt="i-f022d8022405d1ad31494fe962f388db-HIV_Daughter_Particles.jpg" /><a href="http://www.cole.ucf.edu/Students.html">Nitya Venkataraman</a> from the University of Central Florida has managed to reawaken a guardian gene that has been lying dormant in our genomes for 7 million years. These genes, known as retrocyclins, protect monkeys from HIV-like viruses. The hope is that by rousing them from their slumber, they could do the same for us. The technique is several safety tests and clinical trials away from actual use, but it's promising nonetheless. </p> <p>Retrocyclins are the only circular proteins in our bodies, and are formed from a ring of 18 amino acids. They belong to a group of proteins called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensin">defensins</a> that, as their name suggests, defend the body against bacteria, viruses, fungi and other foreign invaders. There are three types: alpha-, beta- and theta-defensins. The last group is the one that retrocyclins belong to. They were the last to be discovered, and have only been found in the white blood cells of macaques, baboons and orang-utans. </p> <p>In previous experiments, Venkataraman's group, led by <a href="http://www.cole.ucf.edu/Students.html">Alexander Cole</a>, showed that retrocyclins were <a href="http://www.pnas.org/content/99/4/1813.abstract">remarkably good</a> at <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14585219">protecting cells</a> from HIV infections. They are molecular bouncers that stop the virus from infiltrating a host cell. The trouble is that in humans, the genes that produce retrocyclins don't work. Over the course of human evolution, these genes developed a mutation that forces the protein-producing machinery of our cells to stop early. The result is an abridged and useless retrocyclin. </p> <p>But aside from this lone crippling mutation, the genes are intact and 90% identical to the monkey versions. Now, Venkataraman has awakened them. She found two ways to fix the fault in human white blood cells, one involving gene transfer and the other using a simple antibiotic. Either way, she restored the cells' ability to manufacture the protective proteins. And the resurrected retrocyclins did their job well - they stopped HIV from infecting a variety of human immune cells. </p> <!--more--><p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/wp-content/blogs.dir/474/files/2012/04/i-bf42088f6eb14e5a3d051e7e4bbef373-Retrocyclin.jpg" alt="i-bf42088f6eb14e5a3d051e7e4bbef373-Retrocyclin.jpg" /><span>Venkataraman says that we can think of retrocyclin deficiency as "an inherited disorder, albeit one with an incidence of 100%. To "cure" it, she created corrected versions of the faulty human retrocyclin genes and loaded them into white blood cells. </span><span>Using glowing antibodies designed to stick to retrocyclins, she saw gleaming evidence under the microscope that the cells had made their own stock of these proteins. She even managed to purify the rekindled proteins themselves. </span> </p> <p><span>This clearly tells us that our cells have all the right machinery needed to actually make retrocyclins - it's just that the instructions have a typo in them. Most importantly, the restored proteins worked. They </span><span>prevented HIV from infecting up to 80% of the cells, and even reduced the levels of virus in cells that had already been infected. </span><span></span> </p> <p><span>Obviously, gene transfer techniques like this are hardly practical for poor African nations where HIV is most rampant. For retrocyclins to really play a role in the fight against HIV, we need a cheaper and easier way of reactivating them. And Venkataraman thinks she has found one - a group of antibiotics called aminoglycosides. </span> </p> <p><span>In bacteria, these drugs work by blocking them from creating proteins. But in the more complex cells of animals, they do something different - they react with the protein-making machinery of our cells so that they make slightly more mistakes than usual. Normally, that would be a bad thing but for retrocyclins, it's an unexpected boon. It means that the machinery barrels straight through the mutation that causes retrocyclins to be built half-finished. It doesn't stop prematurely, and produces a full-length protein. </span> </p> <p><span>Venkataraman found that one of these drugs, tobramycin, was especially good at restoring retrocyclins, and did so in both white blood cells and actual vaginal tissue. The drug slashed the rate of HIV infection by about 50% - a respectable figure but clearly a smaller one compared to the sizeable benefits bestowed by the gene transfer method. On the plus side, the technique didn't seem to harm the cells in any way. </span> </p> <p><span>These results are promising ones indeed, and Venkataraman thinks that with more work, aminoglycoside-based creams could be used to prevent HIV infections in the real world. </span> </p> <p><span>HIV kills by infecting the very cells that are meant to defend us from infections and destroying them. But retrocyclins are something it hasn't encountered before. Humans lost the ability to create these guardians millions of years ago and by reawakening them, we could have a new but ancient weapon against this sneakiest of foes. </span> </p> <p><strong><span>Reference: </span></strong><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=PLoS+Biology&amp;rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pbio.1000095&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fresearchblogging.org&amp;rft.atitle=Reawakening+Retrocyclins%3A+Ancestral+Human+Defensins+Active+Against+HIV-1&amp;rft.issn=1544-9173&amp;rft.date=2009&amp;rft.volume=7&amp;rft.issue=4&amp;rft.spage=0&amp;rft.epage=0&amp;rft.artnum=http%3A%2F%2Fbiology.plosjournals.org%2Fperlserv%2F%3Frequest%3Dget-document%26doi%3D10.1371%252Fjournal.pbio.1000095&amp;rft.au=Venkataraman%2C+N.&amp;rft.au=Cole%2C+A.&amp;rft.au=Ruchala%2C+P.&amp;rft.au=Waring%2C+A.&amp;rft.au=Lehrer%2C+R.&amp;rft.au=Stuchlik%2C+O.&amp;rft.au=Pohl%2C+J.&amp;rft.au=Cole%2C+A.&amp;rfe_dat=bpr3.included=1;bpr3.tags=">Venkataraman, N., Cole, A., Ruchala, P., Waring, A., Lehrer, R., Stuchlik, O., Pohl, J., &amp; Cole, A. (2009). Reawakening Retrocyclins: Ancestral Human Defensins Active Against HIV-1 <span style="font-style: italic;">PLoS Biology, 7</span> (4) DOI: <a rev="review" href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.1000095">10.1371/journal.pbio.1000095</a></span> </p> <p><strong><span>More on viruses:</span></strong> </p> <ul> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/03/the_death_and_resurrection_of_irgm_-_the_jesus_gene.php">The death and resurrection of IRGM - the "Jesus gene"</a> </li> <li><a href="http://notexactlyrocketscience.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/resistance-to-an-extinct-virus-makes-us-more-vulnerable-to-hiv/" title="Resistance to an extinct virus makes us more vulnerable to HIV">Resistance to an extinct virus makes us more vulnerable to HIV</a></li> </ul> <p><a href="http://www.addthis.com/feed.php?pub=edyong209&amp;h1=http://feeds2.feedburner.com/scienceblogs/Ruxi&amp;t1=" title="Subscribe using any feed reader!"><strong>Subscribe to the feed</strong></a> </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/notrocketscience" lang="" about="/notrocketscience" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">edyong</a></span> <span>Wed, 04/29/2009 - 02:30</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/genetics" hreflang="en">genetics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/medicine-health" hreflang="en">Medicine &amp; Health</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/new-drugs-treatments" hreflang="en">New drugs &amp; treatments</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/viruses" hreflang="en">viruses</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/defence" hreflang="en">defence</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/hiv" hreflang="en">hiv</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/retrocyclin" hreflang="en">retrocyclin</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/genetics" hreflang="en">genetics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/viruses" hreflang="en">viruses</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342348" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1240988743"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Very interesting, it's always facscinating what you can learn by studying the differences between similar species...something that is recognized all too infrequently in discussions about the value of animal research.</p> <p>Hobby horses aside, this is an exciting result. The authors of the above study mention a new drug called PTC-124 (a.k.a. Ataluren) that acts in a similar way to the aminoglycosides. This drug has the benefit of being a lot less toxic than the antibiotics (important for long term use) and has performed well in phase II clinical trials for Duchenne Muscular dystrophy and Cystic Fibrosis.</p> <p><a href="http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/news/626_the_latest_news_from_the_ptc124_clinical_trial#1">http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/news/626_the_latest_news_fro…</a><br /> <a href="http://www.cff.org/research/DrugDevelopmentPipeline/#CFTR_MODULATION">http://www.cff.org/research/DrugDevelopmentPipeline/#CFTR_MODULATION</a></p> <p>If the longer term monitoring and larger trials of PTC-124 for FC and DMD continue to indicate that it is safe and effective trials against HIV might start sooner than we might expect for such a novel approach.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342348&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="DTkPxLFLKbsOyryyBBW8iKnkA2zkUmKHrE3wTO0N7do"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.raisingvoices.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Paul Browne (not verified)</a> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342348">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342349" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1240988801"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Really friggin' cool, man. I bet abbie is drooling...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342349&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Q61Vgy6ImStcoQoy_wV2MOm-ZgCvLD78vQO2GdYlVTs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://scienceblogs.com/whitecoatunderground" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">PalMD (not verified)</a> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342349">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342350" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1240989533"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>That is seriously cool, and your explanation was lucid and easy to follow. Thanks!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342350&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="locRkm9GEhTeVh9wTZm9-XCl5WVHEhjh0-Ozio3kTwY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ingles.homeunix.net/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ray Ingles (not verified)</a> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342350">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342351" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1240993301"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This came to my mind:</p> <p>Genetic Mutation Immunity to Bubonic Plague and HIV <a href="http://is.gd/vmdF">http://is.gd/vmdF</a></p> <p>HIV Protection CCR5 Chemokine Receptor Mutation <a href="http://is.gd/vmfx">http://is.gd/vmfx</a></p> <p>Natural selection and resistance to HIV [PDF] <a href="http://is.gd/vmh2">http://is.gd/vmh2</a> </p> <p>Evaluating plague and smallpox as historical selective pressures for the CCR5-Delta-32 HIV-resistance allele [PDF] <a href="http://is.gd/vmhF">http://is.gd/vmhF</a></p> <p>The geographic spread of the CCR5 HIV-resistance allele<br /> <a href="http://is.gd/vmm5">http://is.gd/vmm5</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342351&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_5TBKCveuPb9T7vLMF4CGMfF-6rsCQaUDBexlPridwY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">XiXiDu (not verified)</span> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342351">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342352" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1240993682"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>So tobramycin will allow translation other human pseudogenes (the authors elude to this in the discussion). Are there some potential side effects here?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342352&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hjxUo3MhOYOyNuam4kcyUyVnQGltx1UySkN5nUO52qA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Tim Read (not verified)</span> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342352">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342353" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241010851"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wow. The title to this post was an attention grabber and the content lived up to the title. This is exciting. Thank you for sharing it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342353&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1ULsSo_jhuBOURNkdlOPOB330WQu6ZnIRX1tDWWjgMc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://liliannattel.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lilian Nattel (not verified)</a> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342353">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342354" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241014810"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Are there some potential side effects here?</p></blockquote> <p>Vitamin C production? :-) Or maybe the vomeronasal organ might start working again.</p> <p>BTW, you mean <b>al</b>lude, as shown by the "to" that follows it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342354&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FB1g3CWEqpuvOs5_uM2J9veNCl6UL3ia06G2cmfN_0Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">David MarjanoviÄ, OM (not verified)</span> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342354">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342355" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241031794"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ed,<br /> The one thing that is very questionable is using aminoglycosides in eukaryotes to "release" the retrocyclin. Aminoglycosides work by affecting the 30s subunit of the prokaryote ribosome. Eukaryotes--which includes the cells of humans--lack a 30s ribosome. You probably already know, but that is why antibiotics kill bacteria in us an don't kill us. Humans have 80s ribosomes, consisting of 40s and 60s subunits. Because we don't have 30s ribosome subunits, how would this be able to do anything to eukaryotic cells?<br /> Thanks.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342355&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="K0U3S4dfCQhPH0t9fZmexDGm5gkBMMTwHXBpORfdS4I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mick (not verified)</span> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342355">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342356" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241051938"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Mick, there's an equivalent site on the eukaryotic ribosome that the aminoglycosides bind to weakly. From the paper: </p> <blockquote><p>In bacteria, aminoglycosides bind strongly to the decoding site on the 16S rRNA, thereby hindering protein synthesis [26]. However, in eukaryotes, aminoglycosides bind to the eukaryotic decoding site with low affinity and induce a low level of translational misreading, which suppresses the termination codon through the incorporation of an amino acid in its place.</p></blockquote> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342356&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="m-HpE7upDMEZrh9OGm5g8wGv2gyYAFNBs1qegzNRzAA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ed Yong (not verified)</span> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342356">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342357" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241061230"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Tim Read, there are theoretical risks associated with this approach, but so far research looks promising.</p> <p>Using aminoglycoside antibiotics for treatment of HIV is probably not a realistic option, while they are very useful as antibiotics they cause side effects in some patients that get more common and more serious the longer they are taken for. While they are benificial if taken for a few days or weeks they are probably appropriate for treating HIV where they will probably need to be taken for several years (and at the very least for several months). </p> <p>However the paper above also mentions a new drug named PTC-124 that has been developed to have the same property of allowing the translational machinery to read through premature stop codons. PTC-124 has successfully completed Phase IIa clinical trials for the treatment of Duchenne muscular dystrophy and Phase II trials for Cystic Fibrosis, and so far indications are that it is far less toxic than the aminoglycosides. It is now in longer (2 years) and larger (&gt;100 participants) Phase IIb trials.</p> <p><a href="http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/news/626_the_latest_news_from_the_ptc124_clinical_trial">http://www.muscular-dystrophy.org/research/news/626_the_latest_news_fro…</a></p> <p>If further research continues to support the reactivation of retrocyclin as a means of combatting HIV, and clinical trial results for PTC-124 for CF and DMD continue to be positive, than PTC-124 may start to look like a very promising new anti-HIV drug.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342357&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="oFx-ytnKqcxZLwloGmGrcnM69t6jDNS8hKxQPoNW6D0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.raisingvoices.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Paul Browne (not verified)</a> on 29 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342357">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342358" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241068604"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Far away from something tangible, buy looks very very promising. Very good post.<br /> <a href="http://esns.blogspot.com/">http://esns.blogspot.com/</a><br /> <a href="http://twitter.com/ESS_BILBAO">http://twitter.com/ESS_BILBAO</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342358&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KHbq8mXGqTUfuGPxQ3KGDb1vlXh5fPlk2OEWr6yBf58"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://esns.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Karrasko (not verified)</a> on 30 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342358">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342359" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241077277"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The obvious problem here is that we don't know the consequences of reactivating a gene that has been switched off for 7 million years. First, there might very well be a reason why it was switched off in the first place (i.e. it may have provided some kind of selective advantage). </p> <p>Second, if the gene has indeed been dormant for 7My, we humans have evolved a lot during this time, and the reactivated gene might well interact badly with the new machinery that emerged while it was asleep.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342359&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2c11ALFuOYjJtnmBCP6PTKR7kdXYYRb52J8eT7MknWs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">toto (not verified)</span> on 30 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342359">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="105" id="comment-2342360" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241125500"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is amazing! thanks!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342360&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-TSxGbT14HbxOi7UpNXIQHJzmWZgmZRDFsppEwKxhUw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/sporte" lang="" about="/author/sporte" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sporte</a> on 30 Apr 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342360">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/sporte"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/sporte" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/59121-arsenic_protein-150x150-120x120.png?itok=o0ajJdDI" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user sporte" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2342361" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1241301747"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The answer to the concerns about the effect of restarting retrocyclin production in humans is a familiar statement that infuriates marketeers, politicians and pundits: We need more data. Between the "This has questionable consequences, do DON'T DO IT!" people and the "We gotta DO SOMETHING!" crowd, hardly anyone favors spending what it will take to actually answer the question.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2342361&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="i1xyfIF6wFFPMWim82ynKjFodM82AHZ7tQ91OjybXhE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Steve (not verified)</span> on 02 May 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/30582/feed#comment-2342361">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/notrocketscience/2009/04/29/retrocyclins-a-defence-against-hiv-reawakened-after-7-millio%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:30:21 +0000 edyong 120132 at https://scienceblogs.com