64 https://scienceblogs.com/ en Mad scientists make multiple headed jellyfish https://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/2007/08/06/mad-scientist-make-multiple-he <span>Mad scientists make multiple headed jellyfish</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's mad, I tell you, madddd! Mad scientists these days. Always going around saying, "Hey, you know how that animal could be better? If it had another head. Muahahaha!"</p> <p>Anyway, the (possibly mad) scientists Wolfgang Jakob and Bernd Schierwater wanted to know more about the genes that determine the body plan of multicellular organisms. In mammals, these genes are called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeobox">Hox genes</a>, and in organisms that have circular symmetry like jellyfish they are called Cnox genes. We know that these genes broadly pattern the body plan of multicellular organisms because in a variety of settings if you knock out these genes they result in some weird -- and slightly grotesque -- body forms.</p> <p>Such is what Jakob and Schierwater did with a species of jellyfish called European hydromedusa or <em>Eleutheria dichotoma</em>. They used a technique called <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/2006/10/2_americans_wins_nobel_for_dis.php">RNA interference</a> to selectively down-regulate different Cnox genes to see what the results would be for the body form. (Here is <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0000694">the paper in PLoS One</a>.)</p> <!--more--><p>The figure below shows some of their data:</p> <p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/wp-content/blogs.dir/454/files/2012/04/i-64dab6702a48741f82450d5da89a2600-journal.pone.0000694.g001.jpg" alt="i-64dab6702a48741f82450d5da89a2600-journal.pone.0000694.g001.jpg" /></p> <p>The top row lists the particular Cnox gene that they knocked down-regulated. The bottom row describes what happened.</p> <p>My suspicion is that didn't in and of itself blow your skirt up. However, this is interesting for two reasons. One, in order to understand the function of Hox genes it is often easier to look at creatures that are more easy to manipulate and that are more likely to actually be born if they have developmental abnormalities of this severity. (Most mammals are not viable when Hox genes are knocked out.) Two, looking at jellyfish says some interesting things about points at which evolution diverged. Jellyfish have a completely different body plan than other animals -- circular as opposed to segmental. However, if we were to find that Cnox and Hox genes are related in both structure and function despite this difference in result, this would strongly suggest that the two genes diverges in a common ancestor long, long ago.</p> <p>It might also go a long way to explaining stuff like this poor chap:</p> <p><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/wp-content/blogs.dir/454/files/2012/04/i-29214c1770c4509a3492220f105a44c8-08_Freaks_070718_03.jpg" alt="i-29214c1770c4509a3492220f105a44c8-08_Freaks_070718_03.jpg" /></p> <p>He has the dubious honor of being in the <a href="http://www.livescience.com/bestimg/index.php?url=08_Freaks_070718&amp;cat=freaks">Freaks of Nature section on LiveScience</a>. Animals like this one are sometimes born in the wild, but it is rare that they actually survive long enough to be observed.</p> <p>Hat-tip: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070801/sc_livescience/scientistscreate12headedjellyfish">LiveScience</a></p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/purepedantry" lang="" about="/author/purepedantry" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">purepedantry</a></span> <span>Mon, 08/06/2007 - 03:50</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/64" hreflang="en">64</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/development" hreflang="en">development</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/evolution" hreflang="en">evolution</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/genetics" hreflang="en">genetics</a></div> </div> </div> <section> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/purepedantry/2007/08/06/mad-scientist-make-multiple-he%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:50:22 +0000 purepedantry 127621 at https://scienceblogs.com NYTimes on Sensory Integration Disorder https://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/2007/06/05/nytimes-on-sensory-integration <span>NYTimes on Sensory Integration Disorder</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>A great article in the NYTimes about <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/05/health/psychology/05sens.html">the debate over a sensory integration disorder</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>The problem, these therapists say, is in the brain, which is not properly integrating the onslaught of information coming through the senses, often causing anxiety, tantrums and problems in the classroom. Such difficulties, while common in children with developmental disorders like autism, also occur on their own in many otherwise healthy youngsters, they say.</p> <p>No one has a standard diagnostic test for these sensory integration problems, nor any idea of what might be happening in the brain. Indeed, a diagnosis of such problems is not yet generally accepted. Nor is there evidence to guide treatment, which makes many doctors, if they have heard of sensory problems at all, skeptical of the diagnosis.</p></blockquote> <!--more--><blockquote>Yet in some urban and suburban school districts across the county, talk of sensory integration has become part of the special-needs vernacular, along with attention deficit disorder and developmental delays. Though reliable figures for diagnosis rates are not available, the number of parent groups devoted to sensory problems has more than tripled in the last few years, to 55 nationwide. <p>And now this subculture wants membership in mainstream medicine. This year, for the first time, therapists and researchers petitioned the American Psychiatric Association to include "sensory processing disorder" in its influential guidebook of disorders, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. Official recognition would bring desperately needed research, they say, as well as more complete coverage for treatment, which can run to more than $10,000 a year.</p> <p>But many psychiatrists, pediatricians, family doctors and school officials fear that if validated, sensory processing disorder could become rampant -- a vague diagnosis that could stick insurers and strapped school districts with enormous bills for unproven therapies. The decision is not expected for three or four years, but the controversy is well under way. </p></blockquote> <p>Read the whole thing.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/purepedantry" lang="" about="/author/purepedantry" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">purepedantry</a></span> <span>Tue, 06/05/2007 - 06:03</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/64" hreflang="en">64</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/development" hreflang="en">development</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/mental-health" hreflang="en">mental health</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2389416" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1181039800"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm curious why no one has sought to establish a neurological basis for this. It seems like the first step would be to determine whether there was hypereceptivity peripherally or whether all the normal information was warped during processing. I'd also want to see what happens with GABAergics, like antiepileptic drugs. I would think that trying to turn down the volume on the thalamus would help. Has someone started that kind of work?</p> <p>But mostly, I want to know if this is more common in women. I know a few women that are just waaaay to sensitive and finicky, and now I wonder if they live at the mild end of this potential spectrum disorder. For now, I'll just attribute this to my previous theory that women can be nutty.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2389416&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="oXpQQfvbzjYfj0E2FR-2lTlFZ4iWdLfms8cmO1_dcZ8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://rebirthofrenaisauce.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Renaisauce (not verified)</a> on 05 Jun 2007 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/31807/feed#comment-2389416">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2389417" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1181043255"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Official recognition would bring desperately needed research, they say, as well as more complete coverage for treatment, which can run to more than $10,000 a year."</p> <p>This whole sentence seemed a bit spurious to me. Surely we need to research first, before we can officially recognise the condition and work out how best to treat it??</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2389417&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6Jnx1RqvNk5kZNAUyXMF7_RyA2CWfovLhLB2tyFFWIQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://notexactlyrocketscience.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ed Yong (not verified)</a> on 05 Jun 2007 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/31807/feed#comment-2389417">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2389418" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1181154370"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Actually, the NY Times article was somewhat misleading. This condition IS officially recognized in several sources, i.e., Regulatory-Sensory Processing Disorder is an accepted diagnosis in Stanley Greenspan's Diagnostic Manual for Infancy and Early Childhood and the Zero to Three's Diagnostic Classification. It just hasn't made it into the APA's DSM, which until fairly recently included homosexuality as a mental illness. </p> <p>As far as I know, there has not been a statistically valid gender breakdown of incidence, but you can be sure women are more verbal about sensory preferences and intolerances :)</p> <p>Meanwhile, as an OT and the coauthor of Raising A Sensory Smart Child (<a href="http://www.sensorysmarts.com">www.sensorysmarts.com</a>), I can say that an enormous amount can be done to help both children and adults overcome their sensory issues. I take a very functional approach to treatment, focusing on skills that need strengthening, and taking the underlying sensory issues into account. For example, if a child has difficulty with handwriting, I do not spin him around and around. That is pretty stupid and indefensible, and unlike what the NY Times seemed to imply, not a practice done by most OTs. However, if a child has vestibular (movement and balance) issues, he or she WILL have difficulty sitting still with stable upright posture, and possibly with handling subtle changes in head position. He might have difficulty interpreting sensory input in the proprioceptors (joint receptors) of his hands. He might have difficulty with visual perceptual skills, so that he cannot perceive which direction lines are going or discriminate between a diagonal and vertical line. So, I, like the vast majority of OTs take a "whole child" approach to any skill impairment, including assessing and enhancing sensory integration skills in order to improve the daily life skills needed for learning, playing, and so on.<br /> Lindsey Biel, OTR/L, New York City</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2389418&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8ce-FLcyNESbeOId8SaRrEMg0tQuDFyUGXVYbdUurZs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sensorysmarts.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Lindsey Biel, co-author Raising A Sensory Smart Child">Lindsey Biel, … (not verified)</a> on 06 Jun 2007 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/31807/feed#comment-2389418">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2389419" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1181248109"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Lindsey, I just mentioned you the other day on one of my sites (I forget which one). </p> <p>What I have found with many OT's is that they are trained in Occupational Therapy, not Sensory Integration and lack that knowledge. Although they have probably been exposed to the disorder, it is certainly not something they are well versed in and thus can not effectively integrate sensory therapy. </p> <p>We have had to create our own sensory diet based on our child's needs and then "supplement" with the OT at school, not vice-versa. In a more perfect world it would be the other way around. </p> <p>Mom of a hypo-hypersensitive child with vestibular, proprioceptive, tactile, auditory, oral motor, and visual dysfunction. Hmmm, did I forget anything? Little Pickel is a FUN kid!</p> <p>Pickel<br /> <a href="http://adopttwoboys.blogspot.com">http://adopttwoboys.blogspot.com</a><br /> <a href="http://www.discussingautism.com">http://www.discussingautism.com</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2389419&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ubVV_aJGLfR4L8Vjeap_Y2tirY7aLnci18J0N9TO5aY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://adopttwoboys.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pickel (not verified)</a> on 07 Jun 2007 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/31807/feed#comment-2389419">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2389420" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1181256685"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The complete version of the article was a reasonably good and well balanced, but there were two important errors.</p> <p>There is empirical research about the effects of sensory integrative techniques. The landmark articles is "Improving Academic Scores through Sensory Integration" by A. Jean Ayres published in the Journal of Learning Disabilities in 1972.</p> <p>There are also standardized tests of sensory integration and related issues, most importantly "Sensory Integration and Praxis Test" available through Western Psychological Services.</p> <p>While I firmly subscribe to the fact that there is much more to learn, more then 30 years of practice confirms that we have a solid basis from which to proceed.</p> <p>Sue Sonkin, MS, OTR/L</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2389420&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BrI2VNPUPmamgsEgIfNW_o-VR5WppKz2aBBGxagStI0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.wceed.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Sue Sonkin, Dir., WCEED">Sue Sonkin, Di… (not verified)</a> on 07 Jun 2007 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/31807/feed#comment-2389420">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/purepedantry/2007/06/05/nytimes-on-sensory-integration%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:03:53 +0000 purepedantry 127569 at https://scienceblogs.com 12 month olds, but not 6 month olds predict other people's actions https://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/2007/05/16/12-month-olds-but-not-6-month <span>12 month olds, but not 6 month olds predict other people&#039;s actions</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>No, this is not like voodoo prediction where they will know what will happen 12 years hence. </p> <p>All of us, however, are capable in degrees of predicting what is going to happen over short time scales. This predicition falls into two general categories. First, we can predict the behavior of inaminate objects such as knowing how a ball will flight when we hit it just-so with a bat. That implies that we understand how physics work on some inituitive level. </p> <p>Second, we can understand how animate objects such as people behave. For example, if I see someone removing objects from a container to a place on the table, I can reasonable predict that where they will move new objects based on a similar course that the old objects took. It is a prediction based on consistencies in what I observed before about human motion, and it is based on the premise that people operate in predictable ways. However, to do that I need to first recognize that the other person is a person, that they possess <em>agency</em> in psychology speak.</p> <p>Much has been written about the neurological machinery that allows people to recognize agency. (<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/2007/04/neurological_personhood.php">I posted on this issue</a> with respect to morality a couple weeks ago.) The ability to recognize agency has often been attributed to the Mirror Neuron System (MNS) -- a set of neurons in the brain that activate when a person views another object or person to which they attribute agency.</p> <p>In understanding this development of agency and the MNS, it is reasonable to ask whether they develop at the same time. We know that the MNS is active by around a year of age. The question is whether skills such as the prediction of human motion are also active around that age.</p> <p><a href="http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v9/n7/abs/nn1729.html">Terje Falck-Ytter et al</a>, publishing in Nature Neuroscience, have addressed this issue:</p> <!--more--><blockquote>Recently, a strong claim has been presented about the role of the MNS in human ontogeny. According to the MNS hypothesis of social cognition, the MNS constitutes a basis for important social competences such as imitation, 'theory of mind' and communication by means of gesture and language. If this hypothesis is correct, the MNS should be functional simultaneous with or before the infant's development of such competencies, which emerge around 8-12 months of life. Furthermore, according to the MNS theory, proactive goal-directed eye movements during the observation of actions reflect the fact that the observer maps the observed actions onto the motor representations of those actions. This implies that the development of such eye movements is dependent on action development. Therefore, infants are not expected to predict others' action goals before they can perform the actions themselves. Infants begin to master the action shown in our study at around 7-9 months of life. <strong>Thus, if the MNS is a basis of early social cognition, proactive goal-directed eye movements should be present at 12 but not at 6 months.</strong> <p>Although habituation studies indicate that young infants distinguish between means and ends when observing actions, no one has tested the critical question of when infants come to predict the goals of others' actions. Using a gaze-recording technique, we tested the MNS hypothesis by comparing the eye movements of adults (n = 11), 12-month-old infants (n = 11) and 6-month-old infants (n = 11) during video presentations showing nine identical trials in which three toys were moved by an actor's hand into a bucket (Test 1). We compared gaze behavior, consisting of (i) timing (ms) of gaze arrival at the goal (the bucket) relative to the arrival of the moving target and (ii) ratio of looking time in the goal area to total looking time in combined goal and trajectory areas during object movement.</p> <p>In adults, the MNS is only activated when someone is seeing an agent perform actions, not when objects move alone. However, according to the teleological stance theory14, seeing a human agent is not necessary for infants to ascribe goal-directedness to observed events. This theory states that objects that are clearly directed toward a goal and move rationally within the constraints of the situation are perceived as goal-directed by 12-month-old infants. This implies that seeing an interaction between the actor's hand and the toys is not necessary for eliciting proactive, goal-directed eye movements. By comparing the gaze performance of adults (n = 33) and 12-month-olds (n = 33) in three conditions, we evaluated this alternative hypothesis (Test 2). The first condition, 'human agent', was identical to the one in Test 1. In the 'self-propelled' condition, the motion was identical to that in the human agent condition except that no hand moved the toys. We also included a 'mechanical motion' condition. We assigned subjects randomly to the conditions, and sample sizes were equal. (Citations removed. Emphasis mine.)</p></blockquote> <p>Basically what the authors did was the following. You show adults, 12 month olds, and 6 month olds videos of objects either being moved by a person -- the human agent condition (HA) -- or being moved by their own volition. The own volition has two types. In one type, they move on the same courses that they would have by the person. This is called self-propelled (SP). In the other type, they follow computer constructed courses that do not necessarily resemble those that they would take if a person picked the object up. This is called mechanical motion (MM). (This last control is necessary because you would like to distinguish whether the ability of the subject to predict is related to whether the motion is <em>biological</em> -- looks like it was generated by a person -- or not.)</p> <p>The end-points that the experimenters measured was the tendency of the subjects to look where the objects are going. This gets back to the example that I gave at the beginning of the post. If we can infer agency in a process, then we can predict the outcome of this process. One of the ways we show that we have predicted the outcome is by looking where the object is going to go rather than where it is right now.</p> <p>Here are the results (click to enlarge):</p> <p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/wp-content/blogs.dir/454/files/2012/04/i-9cb4752dd5efb81d8cacb1e84116c500-predictive gaze.jpg"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/purepedantry/wp-content/blogs.dir/454/files/2012/04/i-09190b33c1a3ee47e36cfc93f3995432-predictive gazesmall.jpg" alt="i-09190b33c1a3ee47e36cfc93f3995432-predictive gazesmall.jpg" /></a></p> <p>On the right you can see the arrival time of the subjects gaze prior to the arrival of the object -- how much their gaze beat the object there suggesting how quickly they predicted the arrival.</p> <p>You can see that for human agency type motion, both the adults and the 12 month olds predicted the arrival earlier than it got there. However, for 6 month olds, they do not predict with their gaze the arrival of the object. Interestingly, for adults and 12 month olds, the prediction did not take place when the object was not seen to be moved by a person -- the SP and MM conditions.</p> <p>On the left you can see that this data is recapitulated by the ratio of the time spent gazing at the goal to the total gaze time.</p> <p>These results show that adults and 12 month old possess a similar understanding of agency in human movements, but that 6 month olds do not.</p> <p>What does this tell us about how the understanding of agency develops and the MNS?</p> <p>The authors summarize three conclusions:</p> <blockquote><p>The present study supports the view that action understanding in adults results from a mirror neuron system that maps an observed action onto motor representations of that action. More importantly, we have demonstrated that when observing actions, 12-month-old infants focus on goals in the same way as adults do, whereas 6-month-olds do not (Test 1). The performance of the 6-month-olds cannot originate from a general inability to predict future events with their gaze, because 6-month-olds predict the reappearance of temporarily occluded objects. Finally, in terms of proactive goal-directed eye movements, we found no support for the teleological stance theory claiming that 12-month-old infants perceive self-propelled objects as goal-directed (Test 2).</p></blockquote> <p>The interesting one to me is the bit about predicting actions in 6 month year olds. We know that if you roll a ball behind a screen, babies at even 6 months of age can predict that it will come out the other side -- that it obeys physical laws. Their deficit in this regard is not general prediction, but prediction of the behavior of systems that express agency. This deficit subsides when they reach 12 months of age, in a time scale that parallels the development of the MNS.</p> <p>Also, the so-called <em>teleological stance theory</em> -- the agency is inferred in objects showing directed movements is not accurate. The 12 month old babies can distinguish between objects that look like they have agency and objects that are actually being moved by people.</p> <p>I love experiments like this 1) because they involve babies and I think babies are cool and 2) because it gets to the nitty gritty details of how human beings recognize each other. It's cool to think that 12 month olds are already on top of that.</p> <p>You know how babies develop stranger anxiety around 9 months. I wonder if the development of agency and the understanding that there are other people in the world has something to do with that.</p> <p>Hat-tip: <a href="http://www.f1000biology.com/article/id/1082993">Faculty of 1000</a>.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/purepedantry" lang="" about="/author/purepedantry" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">purepedantry</a></span> <span>Wed, 05/16/2007 - 03:02</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/64" hreflang="en">64</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/development" hreflang="en">development</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-categories field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Categories</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/channel/physical-sciences" hreflang="en">Physical Sciences</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2389301" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1179337450"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>As the father of a 7 month old I've read numerous articles citing that you can't spoil a new born baby, but nothing indicating what age you can. I guess this would be an indication that I should start watching for signs of manipulation as he begins to recognize the response to his actions.</p> <p>...and then just give into him because he's so darn cute.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2389301&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="nNMpMXOscCGXjL64htVDKLg-FgCcqflWg32teUN72s4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://spazsquatch.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael Bodalski (not verified)</a> on 16 May 2007 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/31807/feed#comment-2389301">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/purepedantry/2007/05/16/12-month-olds-but-not-6-month%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 16 May 2007 07:02:54 +0000 purepedantry 127547 at https://scienceblogs.com