Dora The Explorer https://scienceblogs.com/ en The Verdict on the new Dora the Explorah https://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/03/20/the-verdict-on-the-new-dora-th <span>The Verdict on the new Dora the Explorah</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Julia and I looked into this and we have concurred, and this Jury of Two is prepared to pass judgment. </p> <p>This is the original Dora the Explorer:</p> <p></p><center><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/wp-content/blogs.dir/472/files/2012/04/i-1310e483c781f00deec1aae62cdac997-DoraThe-ExplorerPosters.jpg" alt="i-1310e483c781f00deec1aae62cdac997-DoraThe-ExplorerPosters.jpg" /> <p></p></center> <p>And here (below the fold) is the new Dora:</p> <!--more--><p></p><center><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/wp-content/blogs.dir/472/files/2012/04/i-559b9b13b5a6c2b994b34f60feec6548-dora_the_explorer_31709-200x316.jpg" alt="i-559b9b13b5a6c2b994b34f60feec6548-dora_the_explorer_31709-200x316.jpg" /> <p></p></center> <p>The original Dora had a backpack and a monkey, she had boot-like explorer shoes, sensible clothing, what looks to me like a watch with a compass built into it, a very sensible haircut, and a thirst for knowledge. When Julia saw the new Dora, she was a bit shocked. "No backpack. What about the monkey? Pockets? How can you be an explorer with no pockets? They turned her into a Barbie." </p> <p>"But what about her shoes?" I said, on Dora's behalf, just in case.</p> <p>"The shoes suck, if you're an explorer."</p> <p>I had to agree.</p> <p>And it gets worse. It is obvious that the new Dora has been somehow de-ethnic-isized (though Julia and I were both unsure of what Dora's ethnicity was to begin with) and as <a href="http://www.vivalafeminista.com/2009/03/why-mattel-nick-have-it-wrong.html">La Feminista</a> points out, you can't be the Number One Latina Sciencey Role Model and have the option to change eye color in the computerized version, which apparently is the case. </p> <p>La Feminista confirms that Boots the Monkey is out. And, the shift from sensible to cute footwear is outrageous. For an explorer. </p> <p>What IS interesting about this Dora thing, and may well in the end be a success, is this whole idea of tracking the age of the generation to which Dora was introduced. It will be interesting to see what happens over the years as Dora experiences high school, with the social pressures to be stupid and to not be good at math because she is a girl; college, with the drinking parties and obnoxious frat boys; graduate school with the feudal patriarchal system, where someone gets to put their name on your written work because they bought some expensive machine that they let you use; and the job market where Dora may have to spend 12 years as a nomad before she can have any sort of job security at all.</p> <p>Right. I can see the 35 year olds of 22 years from now coming home from a long day at The Lab and checking whatever the mid 21st century has to offer in lieu of Tivo to catch up on the latest episode.</p> <p>When she's 32, I'll bet Dora gets the monkey back. Because it's science. And you know what they say about science. </p> <p>If you want a friend, get a monkey.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a></span> <span>Fri, 03/20/2009 - 15:15</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/feminism" hreflang="en">feminism</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/science-education" hreflang="en">Science Education</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/dora-explorer" hreflang="en">Dora The Explorer</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/science-education" hreflang="en">Science Education</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388575" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237581003"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>At least she still has 10 fingers...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388575&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iM9pNhob0Fn9yTtgHnQ_4gwCCt7eCzfjzybfU_qRgWA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">EJ (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388575">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388576" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237584506"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>And it gets worse. It is obvious that the new Dora has been somehow de-ethnic-isized (though Julia and I were both unsure of what Dora's ethnicity was to begin with) </p></blockquote> <p>Really, Greg? How is it obvious that they have "de-ethnic-isized" Dora from looking at her, oh king of "there is not race"? La Feminista points out that you can change her eye color, but do you really think people don't look at her and think "Latina" anymore? </p> <p>You seem to have strange ideas about who can belong to a particular group. As soon as they are not brown enough or ethnic enough for you, you judge?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388576&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tWCAmEn00QhnXWrkwuK-a6YjmLiC-3Agoj8Y44AdopA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Isis the Scientist (not verified)</a> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388576">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388577" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237586310"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I think they definitely bleached her hair a little to brown with highlights and she may have had a bit of a MJ on the skin too.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388577&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="arQdG75sCOdqttjccFy0TbMlKWiOA-kjCxSh6gSDdxo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://archaeoporn.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Thadd (not verified)</a> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388577">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388578" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237587020"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It is obvious that Dora has been converted to a Barbie-esque character, resulting in a loss of character. The old dora did not bring up issues of marketing-driven sexualized imagery. This one does. This is a marketing ploy that some people will buy into and some people will see for what it is.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388578&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="eCOus7ROAYiVr8hbtmyEZEQRNJLDdLpvaSWLrACe1yM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Sara (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388578">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388579" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237587527"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ha! This is not even slightly subtle. Dora is a total sellout to American prurience. Isis, I think, might be working for Dora's marketing firm.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388579&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Yb3AxpTA-tqjo_y0gfH0uaMvZoaITQfAECLS1I-1wn4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Andrew (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388579">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388580" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237587947"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I thought Dora lightened a couple ways, and thought of the <a href="http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/durchschnittsgesichter/durchschnittsgesichter.htm">average face</a> stuff, but it seems the averaging is not true.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388580&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EqqjtBlXjYUy0SHM_XPxCV96BeD6GoIB2GFadRviNyw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dave X (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388580">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388581" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237588087"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The new Dora is fine. The old Dora was fine. Swapping the old Dora out for the New Dora is icky. This sends a rather explicit message. Kids who related to the old Dora in part because the old Dora was not a classic hotty cute chick are getting a little elbow in the gut with this change. Thank you Mattel.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388581&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4ANDRZnlD6XpCtZivtB8xYlV7OV7d5AHZIvXgxA0Ysk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Elizabeth (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388581">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388582" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237588708"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Laden, don't you understand that Isis The Scientist is really known as Isis the Queen of the Hot Latina Club, and no one shall opine in this area without her approval?</p> <p>As for Dora, this is the first I have ever heard of her or certainly ever seen a picture of her, and I agree with Julia's assessment. If I had to pick one of these Doras to be stranded in the woods with, I would pick the one with the backpack and the monkey. There might be snacks in the back pack and the monkey is one who could climb to the top of the tallest tree and tell us ... oh no, monkeys can't talk. Never mind. But at least we would have the tasty snacks. And if necessary we could eat the monkey. </p> <p>Sorry, I am distracting myself. I'd take either Dora, I do not really care.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388582&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="69loSB9T1YvLUVVryxXDbABlrp_bulwkkQbo48nTj3E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Son of Dora (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388582">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-1388583" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237589496"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Elizabeth: That is exactly how I view it. The dialectic transformation reifies the barbionormative.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388583&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tOgSX2ESyd8NIvgUUHhKYyo-onoylZ0-mNiDj-VOT8c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388583">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388584" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237589613"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Isn't Isis tired of trying to seem meaner and stupider than she can really be?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388584&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Yc2J7RLQXTIMzk7x0oAqaGX-Y_QVLWd0yETOI_4QlhM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mankel (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388584">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388585" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237589737"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I apologize. I tried to stop the previous comment but it was too late. Sorry.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388585&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2vSk9BJSZPXL-i9jSmwinNClZ7ud37uie75cO2U0k5k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mankel (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388585">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388586" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237590361"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I just heard that they are going to change Saint Patrick's Day to Shamrock Day. This will join the makeover of Dora in the pantheon of cultural homogenization. It started with the preppies. We should have killed them all when there were only a few. But now it is too late.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388586&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2arCp__JICilUepze09GLlFD60ZSic4Hsd_ZyRh1xEk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://levi934101.navigare.es/blog/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Isabella (not verified)</a> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388586">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388587" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237590884"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The old Dora was Mayan and the new Dora is Brazillian OBVIOUSLY. Oh, and Boots - a Lemur/Rooster hybrid. I am hanging on to the thin hope that the new Dora doesn't spend ALL her time exploring the mall or her growing infatuation with the school quarterback.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388587&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="mcp2ayj03YWMdiiVdSP4E5TX4e0oQe9tekpmwGwimNE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Paulsen (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388587">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388588" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237591213"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Eric, you speak the uncomfortable truth. Innocent curiosity has been replaced by ditsy protohormonic shoppingmallitude.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388588&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lNjyyYP_Y8d9KGg-A4CpYQMAsaT_ciwClS0Rzcb1aMs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Son of Dora (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388588">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388589" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237592401"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>At least one outlet labels Dora as "the new sexy explorer" and mentions Nickelodeon "teasing" consumers with the silhouette. </p> <p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?entry_id=37198">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfmoms/detail?entry_id=37198</a></p> <p>The word "skank" has been used. Bitch had an explicit study of Dora's ethnicity and put it in relationship to some of the issues being discussed here, before the new Dora was teasing us. Before she was transformed she was part of the exploitation process:</p> <blockquote><p> Doraâs starring role in the lucrative global television market stands in sharp contrast to the role real Latinas have played in a more literal form of television production, in which maquiladora trumps exploradora. First created in the 1960s, maquiladoras are foreign-owned Mexican factories in which imported raw materials and components are assembled into products that are exported for sale. Women constitute about 80 percent of the maquiladora workforce; according to Maquilapolis, a documentary by Vicky Funari and Sergio De La Torre, women are recruited because factory owners consider them docile low-wage laborers.</p></blockquote> <p>And now the new version seems more suited to the a different setting entirely, which I will not even say out loud. From Fourth Wave, which I think captures my thinking on this well enough:</p> <p>"Have you seen how Dora the Explorer is being marketed nowadays? This once-proud symbol of girl agency &amp; power now stars in sexed-up, passive incarnations in toy stores, on cereal boxesâ¦and even, more and more, on her TV show."</p> <p>source:<br /> <a href="http://www.fourthwavefeminism.com/2009/03/whats-happening-to-dora-explorer.html">http://www.fourthwavefeminism.com/2009/03/whats-happening-to-dora-explo…</a></p> <p>It is always more of the same in pop culture.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388589&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zx_M7wLhpT3b9sd87zCkh4WVJ61jU2fAC5SgLqCvNf0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">che girl (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388589">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388590" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237593331"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Isis, how does the generation of whiteness in an animated character with an explicit ethnicity not jive with a concept that race is an invalid construct? I think people look at her now and say "Dondi." I believe Dondi was an Italian boy and he liked shopping.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388590&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="svpnZSceKOQ8faj7eGFu9oAaz_YP93CJK8A-f2Btzww"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Grace (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388590">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388591" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237593460"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><em>The dialectic transformation reifies the barbionormative.</em></p> <p>I love the barbionormative! Meaning I hate the barbionormative.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388591&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="dNbYC86JBys57OvppzKLlxqenA5Epqd0cJeUkvBK28s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">che girl (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388591">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388592" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237593677"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Boots most definitely is a monkey and speaks primarily English.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388592&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rmud6TTqR7B_wcMNFl1PBgeygR134jBaevPgryzFYk4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Son of Dora (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388592">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-1388593" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237594429"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>OK, so if the monkey can speak English it is probably not going to have a hard time getting a new job. There are not a lot of talking monkeys out there.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388593&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="u_B77eipSPSQorG4oMMWIL_4_RI8TFk-oM-XjiOX2Ao"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388593">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388594" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237595016"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ditzy? Skanky? </p> <p>Look, it's bad enough they've gotten rid of the cute little round-bellied kid and the things that actually make her exploring practical. No need to project. I'm perfectly happy to let these things stay in your head where I don't need to see them.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388594&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Q6sYIZUKMRPzW9-Z6jyjzb7Gg0SjRE-8f3_R3n_4iO4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://almostdiamonds.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Stephanie Z (not verified)</a> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388594">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388595" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237596002"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I am not sure what a Skanky is. But I'll take two just in case. The new Dora does have "ditzy" body language.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388595&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Y-CHmTosaSmJKUF6sBE1voG1GPON8VtE96j04t2myHo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Son of Dora (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388595">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388596" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237597334"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm not too bothered, really. My daughter likes Dora, but has mostly outgrown her. I think Mattel was looking for a way to fill a less-expensive niche than the American Girl dolls. And if I had to choose between being begged for Bratz or Barbie and being begged for a "big girl" Dora, I'd go for the Dora every time.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388596&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="qWiZfYPEAFBpUWvjbTKYC64JGhBZ3K1Hh2ZGpawy5KY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://steingrueblwe.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Heather (not verified)</a> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388596">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388597" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237598938"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>i would say that new dora i globalized version and definitively no spirit at all, it looks like Britney spears and totally non-interesting comparing to old Dora, also i think kids will not like new one ,its just spirit-less!!!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388597&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Y800y_qcLI2li94Mv6ELY5fhDQMQHz3iy0hhN3caBp4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">maja (not verified)</span> on 20 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388597">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388598" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237614339"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don't know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.</p> <p>Joannah</p> <p><a href="http://myscones.com">http://myscones.com</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388598&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KMvMKt8aR3JO9SelolYAqloyBukPFZpQ2CVVIwpSH74"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://myscones.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Joannah (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388598">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388599" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237618103"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>When my kids first found Dora (they were very young), my daughter from China was convinced that Dora was Chinese. My daughter from India was convinced that the character was Indian. I let them think what they wished, until they eventually figured it out. </p> <p>The new Dora is cute, but she has lost all her charm and individuality. And she will probably lose all the little boys that watched. </p> <p>I wonder how the original creators/illustrators feel. I also wonder how an older Dora will affect the format designed for preschoolers.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388599&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2_twWStMybEabNjOMML6K6QA5Z_fVILSH3mwsV3kS1A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.misscellania.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Miss Cellania (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388599">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388600" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237621947"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Maybe it's a simply a ploy aimed at hitherto untapped markets. Perhaps by slimming down the new Dora, her owners hope to penetrate third world populations?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388600&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZCiplSyOejV-a7ikKmRCTrPz3mIPTPvFhyqSURvbCnA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ian (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388600">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388601" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237622313"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The first Dora was flat and one-dimensional. Just as Betty Crocker gets a once-a-decade makeover to keep her contemporary, so did Dora. Geez, people, she is not sexy or skanky, she is just more reflective of her current generation. Scroll up and take a look at old Dora. I'm not seeing a lot to like. She's animated, and not very well at that.</p> <p>I'm not sure if both Doras exist in Nickelodeon world as TV shows for both the toddlers and pre-schoolers (and to enhance their reach from a retail/marketing perspective), or if they've swapped the old for the new, or what...but y'all sound to me like a bunch of people who like to get fired up over a steaming pile of nothing. If you have kids in this young age group they'll be over Dora in a year, and onto characters/personalities which are much more offensive than an explorer sans backpack. </p> <p>Interesting subject, Greg. :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388601&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6ZTLiZpeY4oVxHK5Hymx1syv16nVORb8Cyy6H-1XUVw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">April T. (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388601">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388602" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237622901"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>She still looks Latina to me, but the thing that disturbs me is that she is shedding her "tomboy" ways so she is less threatening to boys. Wearing a teddy, pedal pushers, ballet shoes; she is ready to move from outdoorsy things that boys do to more indoorsy things that girls do.</p> <p>Dora explores dance class, Dora explores Little Victoria's Secret, Dora doesn't get dirty anymore. (Nothing wrong with dance class, by the way.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388602&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iQ3f0oH738Pe1IXXZYTex7O6bg1DccVP0hduwIwitmc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://tuibguy.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mike Haubrich, FCD (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388602">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388603" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237625458"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I am utterly puzzled by the idea of what a "Latina" <em>should</em> look like. Can someone describe this mythical/mystical ideal?</p> <p>I don't think the monkey is any great loss. Monkeys shriek, bite, scratch, pull hair, fling sh*%, and masturbate publicly and frequently. Rather like certain bloggers, now that I think of it. </p> <p>Metaphorically speaking, of course.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388603&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="q8dClI7jw60I0xNDaWLYJRrNUUV2_dufsYYSa6Nwv8A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barn Owl (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388603">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388604" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237630338"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Barn Owl, who's talking about what a Latina should look like? We're talking about what this specific Latina has looked like and how that's changed and how it's hard to make a change without implying there was something wrong with the original.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388604&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="AnOzrostSLA0cdrIpkWW-VV135hSbDx2iCf7Cpxmw8o"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://almostdiamonds.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Stephanie Z (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388604">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388605" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237631590"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Who the heck is Dora the Explorer?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388605&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Oay0BGR4usDSEXByQ-LI1npDNenVUUktNohubyPXKj0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.IslandParkNews.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">CalderaGal (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388605">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388606" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237632033"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I don't know what all the fuss is. The producers of Dora indeed wish to follow their support base through life, and in order to do so, must expand the character. Who is to say that the new Dora will not have explorer boots, backpacks and a guide moneky? They may have Dora teach kids how to prepare for the many adversities they may encounter before setting out? Like don good hiking shoes, a backpack full of useful items, etcetera, regardless if it is to the mountains across the bridge and to the ocean ... or to the urban jungle...the mall.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388606&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VP8XWeWjI-vGTZANsAKwxTw5WMeB6rng-jHJl8BIReA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gb (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388606">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388607" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237632180"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I showed my daughter(9) (who grew up on Dora and learned some spanish) the image of the new Dora and asked her who it was. Immediate response was 'Barbie' followed one second later by 'Dora'. The marketing is working.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388607&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cHUI2D-Vug2RsgTmXlYbf3tgpn6E5-lQXyeP2ZAlR60"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gb (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388607">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388608" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237634825"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ Stephanie Z: Greg is the one who noted that Dora has been "de-ethnic-isized" and that an eye color change somehow eliminates Latina-ness. The new Dora is in a different graphic style, and so I don't see how comparison with the old Dora necessarily reveals anything about her Latina-ness. Dora now reads as a more fashion doll-like character to me, but "Latina" brings to mind so many different women whom I know, that I just don't register a cartoon character as reflecting any of them in particular. </p> <p>Also, it may be that you are seeing a critic or enemy, where there is none. It's entirely possible that I didn't have Greg in mind when I referred to monkey-like bloggers.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388608&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="K7c_QBpV18xHqBr5IZbYLa2IndRUKfeAYvgBPe6DJos"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barn Owl (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388608">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-1388609" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237635270"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>My original take on TransDora was not about the ethnicity bit. This was pointed out to me by Feminista and my daughter. I hold no great claim on that observation nor do I care much. If the new Dora claims Latina as her identity, and speaks Spanish and stuff, then she's Latina. </p> <p>Having said that, there probably is an argument for the reconstruction of Dora as something else. Studies have shown that individuals who self identify as non-white prefer white dolls. This applies variously to the kids and the parents. I have to think that such preferences are highly variable across time and space, but I also KNOW (as do you, dear reader) that Mattel has this under control. They have the studies you and I do not have. The Barbi-ization of Dora is an obvious marketing strategy, and having the main character in a product line be less-ethnic is probably a marketing strategy as well.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388609&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="c307BScQw5UishV6cKEa43TD0BBhKsqXLH7JZMIQ7D4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388609">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388610" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237636338"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Barn Owl, it's also possible that you're seeing defensiveness where none exists.</p> <p>It isn't that changing her skin or hair color makes her less Latina because all Latinas are any one thing. It's that changing her skin or hair color makes people more likely to assume she's Anglo. </p> <p>There's been quite a bit of talk about writers creating characters of color in the other parts of the blogosphere in which I hang out. One of the things being pointed out in that discussion is that the <a href="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/03/13/mary-anne-mohanraj-gets-you-up-to-speed-part-ii/">specific details</a> of an individual's ethnic identity are just as important as the specifics of any other part of their identity. Going generic isn't only lazy. Generic characters tend to read as being part of the dominant group represented in a culture. So moving Dora closer to the dominant group means that people who are not of the dominant group will likely see her less as someone they identify with.</p> <p>As for the eyes, I'll view that with much less skepticism when kids can change Barbie's eye color too.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388610&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4xsu0yirZkRggpKmytiYQHA3XqJhTzGFSqCOqJVXjrI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://almostdiamonds.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Stephanie Z (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388610">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-1388611" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237636572"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>There will be little kids with little eyeballs in them.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388611&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tRj44SwTqsCkUmRGmNzxB8WhAS_kJu8Ggt91FNjREhU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388611">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388612" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237637585"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Are we sure they're actually dumping the old Dora? My guess is that they're going to keep the old Dora that's marketed towards preschool kids intact, and are just creating a parallel Dora marketed towards older girls, which wouldn't be a bad thing. </p> <p>I watch more Dora and Diego than is healthy for an adult (I have a two and a half year old boy who's nuts for both of them), and the series are so intertwined that I don't think they could update Dora without updating Diego as well, or abandoning Diego altogether. I can't find evidence that they're doing either.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388612&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rqwrN9Sz8eQeDwdzDnqds1CSs0S1Bx_dO0mJn8B8TMw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">José (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388612">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388613" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237638119"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><b>Elizabeth | March 20, 2009 11:28 PM</b></p> <blockquote><p>The new Dora is fine. The old Dora was fine. Swapping the old Dora out for the New Dora is icky. This sends a rather explicit message. Kids who related to the old Dora in part because the old Dora was not a classic hotty cute chick are getting a little elbow in the gut with this change. Thank you Mattel.</p></blockquote> <p>I agree. There's nothing inherently wrong with either image of Dora but there's definitely something disturbing about the transition from the former to the latter. It comes cross as an affirmation of the Barbified image to which girls are expected to conform - both in body image and behaviour.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388613&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="orO2CHlxczSKMgwZrrQWq6lYKPLHSUBX4BqvCU5_0sI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="The Chimp&#039;s Raging Id">The Chimp&#039;s Ra… (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388613">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388614" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237642542"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Come on Greg, to be fair we ought to <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/03/dora_revealed.php">wait and see</a> what Dora is up to.</p> <p>Furthermore, it's good she lost the monkey. Sends <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/03/the_science_behind_why_chimpan.php">the wrong message</a> to kids!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388614&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="63pK9uKG0InKOkmtvbgPRSWjZLna1dwtNlB7LS--0ls"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/intersection" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Sheril R. Kirshenbaum">Sheril R. Kirs… (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388614">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388615" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237644184"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Can I be brutally honest about one thing? I want to at least hope that there's some upgrade in the programming. The original Dora show was stupid, stupid, stupid -- painfully repetitive crap that somehow managed to not even measure up to some of the most basic children's books. There is an astonishing amount of potential in that character that has never even come slightly close to being realized.</p> <p>In conclusion, bring the monkey back and lose the shoes -- give the girl, you know, some boots. Flat heels. I don't much care about the clothes.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388615&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="GNkjS1ykIl_1r-fCHJQeSTp-8cX6QiR7Mmw54dQCpNQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://offseasontv.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Brian X (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388615">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388616" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237646667"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Brian X </p> <blockquote><p><i>The original Dora show was stupid, stupid, stupid -- painfully repetitive crap that somehow managed to not even measure up to some of the most basic children's books. </i> </p></blockquote> <p>I disagree. While watching show like Dora, Diego, and Blues Clues makes me want to shoot myself in the head, I can't deny they've had a positive effect on my son. They're interactive, keep kids engaged, and do teach them some surprising things. I remember on my sons 2nd birthday, we pulled into a parking garage, and my son said, âLook! We're in a cave! Echo! Papa, did you know that bats use echovucation to see in the dark.â It turned out he had learned that from one of those horribly repetitive Diego sequences.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388616&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5bm0iXap0PZAMbglRG_PiJRLV5F7eQTjeThVaRgo1IU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">José (not verified)</span> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388616">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-1388617" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237665428"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Sheril, excellent point about the monkey, I had not thought of that, and thanks for the links. </p> <p>And it is true that everything will depend on what Dora ultimately does. I just hope she can take the pressure!!!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388617&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="sjjgPJvcw9maYWTic2Yu9fHIA9kCKu1Kq7gNnhNK80k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 21 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388617">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388618" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1261118677"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>so ugly</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388618&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JOpH4fLoOG011p8pXzeqtX05R0wXW4TIS0kK-CUuQHE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://0838133" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">zachary (not verified)</a> on 18 Dec 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388618">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388619" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1269578932"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>My 3 year old will be the ultimate test for this<br /> But Dora now matches her cousin Diego in style<br /> And he still knows talking animals and has atalking bag</p> <p>So there is hope - we'll see</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388619&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_zUZ57SEqP0SladoNQfd9Z1-lTXLxamPn3Attzpejyk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bob the explorer (not verified)</span> on 26 Mar 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388619">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1388620" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1272413809"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The original Dora had a backpack and a monkey, she had boot-like explorer shoes, sensible clothing, what looks to me like a watch with a compass built into it, a very sensible haircut, and a thirst for knowledge. When Julia saw the new Dora, she was a bit shocked. "No backpack. What about the monkey? Pockets? How can you be an explorer with no pockets? They turned her into a Barbie."</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1388620&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1wX2CjjhawVY2vnYJHt1Fbft6fOpsKtAsS91DLiVRTY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.wholesaleeshop.com.au/Solar-Charger/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">teresa (not verified)</a> on 27 Apr 2010 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-1388620">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/gregladen/2009/03/20/the-verdict-on-the-new-dora-th%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:15:20 +0000 gregladen 26240 at https://scienceblogs.com Dora Revealed https://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/03/17/dora-revealed <span>Dora Revealed</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><form mt:asset-id="7916" class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;" contenteditable="false"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/wp-content/blogs.dir/433/files/2012/04/i-b996225df07d36f1258bb9f3b52c32ec-dora2.png" alt="i-b996225df07d36f1258bb9f3b52c32ec-dora2.png" /></form> <p>Here <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSTRE52F7LD20090317">she</a> is...</p> <p>You've read about <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/03/just_imagine_a_doll_that_empha.php">the controversy</a> and now it's time to weigh in. According to <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSTRE52F7LD20090317"><em>Reuters</em></a>, Dora will continue solving mysteries related to the environment, wildlife, and school while maintaining her sense of adventure. </p> <p>As I wrote last week, I hope the middle school aged explorer remains curious, clever, self confident, and kind. And if she chooses to do so while wearing cute shoes, she's entitled. <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist/2009/03/trampy_toys_and_what_we_tell_o.php">Isis</a> and I agree that brains and social consciousness are not defined by appearances.</p> <p>So folks, what do you <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzK3Jl64dyc&amp;feature=related">think</a>? </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/intersection" lang="" about="/intersection" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sheril</a></span> <span>Tue, 03/17/2009 - 06:27</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/culture" hreflang="en">Culture</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/education" hreflang="en">education</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/dora-explorer" hreflang="en">Dora The Explorer</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/girls" hreflang="en">girls</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/education" hreflang="en">education</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-2275379" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237287213"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It all depends on how Dora's work shakes out in the Peer Review process, really.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275379&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hrJo5A9EcutZ29M13yKaGNv1OSUY5XkyN0QKoBibVWg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275379">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275380" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237288396"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Maturing looks with maturing good values equals a winner. GO DORA!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275380&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BMTKqcm7F3oHFKNVIPBME8PbmzLlXGCvrrZDKt4ml_w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Linda (not verified)</span> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275380">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275381" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237289258"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I LOVE the new Dora!!!! She reminds me of my little sister...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275381&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="i4MbnLmztVYMo9vPcb2H7k8fIe_N9kZDrc48_XQ93hg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Isis the Scientist (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275381">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275382" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237291964"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What would the reaction be if Dora were made to appear totally nerdy with soda bottle thick glasses and combat boots. Someone would have gotten outraged about perpetuating a different stereotype.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275382&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="MbrNp52KFWLuPgZnuEgONpyMn02Dzqu3toWsTrMbXmw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://cagreening.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wes Rolley (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275382">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275383" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237292494"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Cute shoes, meh. Important thing is whether she wades through the mud puddles or lets the shoes dictate not to.</p> <p>More apt for the prior note, but some other thoughts. While there's some truth to the claim that men 'go' for pretty women, once you get down to brass tacks, what it is that men think is pretty varies a lot between men (for those old enough, it's the 'Ginger vs. Mary Ann' or 'Jennifer vs. Bailey' argument writ large). Plus, there's the matter that photographic prettiness can seldom outweigh the personality. I don't know what they look like, but given Meghan McCain's responses to Laura Ingraham's attacks, no question that Ingraham is one who won't remain 'pretty' longer than her first sentence or two. </p> <p>My shoes comment has a serious point to it. This ties back to the body image comments in the previous post. That is, about the same time I was encouraging my daughter to play sports (any and all), and coaching her 13 year old baseball team, research came out that girls who were physically active survived puberty better, and with better body image, than girls who weren't. So it really is important that Dora keep wading through mud, climbing trees, swimming, running, etc.. She needn't be good at the physical activties, and probably shouldn't be at all of them. But run along keeping one foot in front of the other even though others are faster.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275383&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NKNivsYYk73IhBAfvTC7wyvjQJP-DhoHDcqPdFowPJQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://moregrumbinescience.blogspot.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Robert Grumbine (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275383">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275384" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237294495"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I would love to think this is motivated by a desire to make science appealing to young women. It is more likely an attempt to expand the franchise to keep girls spending their parents money on Dora merchandise. </p> <p>On a personal note, my 5 year old granddaughter announced several months ago that she is too old for Dora and is now firmly in the grip of Hannah Montana mania. If the marketers can find a way to replace Hannah with a more grown up Dora they will gladly get my appreciation and money!!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275384&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="t0qsK0ANFe219B2uZbp-xl8y0GcfJvEAOpPeCv7jZYg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Kevin (not verified)</span> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275384">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275385" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237296182"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>If the marketers can find a way to replace Hannah with a more grown up Dora they will gladly get my appreciation and money!!! </p></blockquote> <p>Hannah's nothing... Have you heard Britney's new single? It's terrific for dancing, but I dread listening to 8-yr olds sing '<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tJiXTLZJE">If You Seek Amy</a>'. [<i>say the title slowly out loud</i>]</p> <p>Children are exposed to all sorts of influences regardless of how much we try to shelter them. I hope Dora remains a positive role model and succeeds at promoting the message smart=attractive.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275385&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4wLr7zJBwdzmnbbeGCBCEmgkk3M-PqjDAEE5y8Mz9Fo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/intersection" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Sheril R. Kirshenbaum">Sheril R. Kirs… (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275385">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275386" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237296398"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You know, I thought the silhouette looked a lot more sexual than the full-color image. Before, I had the impression she was wearing a mini-skirt and revealing a lot of leg, now we can see that these are leggings! I really don't see much of a problem with this.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275386&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="--p4qSz5TckGuS92R0nplLxLspbASXFEvzlWMuVy-CI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://candidengineer.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Candid Engineer (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275386">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275387" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237296717"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Who cares what she looks like? It's what she DOES that matters! Don't forget Aristotle's point that the decisions characters make defines them. And that spectacle falls pretty far down the list of priorities.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275387&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="mAiBrfWDjA3m3hT_sWqTv95P_kbh25gslznxOw87nRw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Erasmussimo (not verified)</span> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275387">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275388" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237297127"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>You know, I thought the silhouette looked a lot more sexual than the full-color image. </p></blockquote> <p>I suspect that was a good PR move to create buzz. If so, it certainly worked.</p> <blockquote><p>It's what she DOES that matters!</p></blockquote> <p>Exactly :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275388&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LsOnbo9GGUikgtfyDIxnKHQXULsF_lDOM1JBM3pXd-E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/intersection" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Sheril R. Kirshenbaum">Sheril R. Kirs… (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275388">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-2275389" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237297323"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Dora is obviously a stereotype promoting the patriarchal demand that women be depicted as having preternaturally large heads.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275389&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NzJYkCFsvcAix_pRMSy6Yv5Kq5_iRpnygdCodPz7JAY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275389">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275390" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237302571"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, she's not a mall rat (Bratz) or a preppie, but I wish she'd be more outdoor-looking.</p> <p>I mean, DANG!, do you see any POCKETS in that outfit?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275390&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="afDVqeclvvGY84lqrs-4C0fGSftvvl3_YxjyQ_EfRKQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://home.comcast.net/~stefan_jones/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Stefan Jones (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275390">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="31" id="comment-2275391" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237316745"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Stefan: Yes, and you CAN be stylish and well equipped.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275391&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xAbNrWxONVideKkPcrfsOPi0PXJ1Wp_wwKrkNiuwZb0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275391">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/gregladen"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/gregladen" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/HumanEvolutionIcon350-120x120.jpg?itok=Tg7drSR8" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user gregladen" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275392" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237329876"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Smart=attractive may not work with little girls (just like smart GI Joes may not work with little boys). What's the advantage if one cannot constantly dress up one's dolls in girly clothes? Tee hee.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275392&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ST9owivYJrdCOAVo6u9a8vA88n-4dY6xUq2LvUxmi9g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ashutoshchemist.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ashutosh (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275392">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275393" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237331766"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I hope she loses that ear-splitting shriek.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275393&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-oaBk3DZJKLLcynk1z0h14LcJNwmN_w-3QwV9ne3R6E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Richard Simons (not verified)</span> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275393">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275394" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237333018"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If you haven't seen this already you will like it<br /> <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220549&amp;title=stem-sell">http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220549&amp;title=stem…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275394&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pqZa0ZbLohM2CbTo66d0pAtGAJrha5UmSFpDbl6HNwE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ashutoshchemist.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ashutosh (not verified)</a> on 17 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275394">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275395" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237363817"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Isis and I agree that brains and social consciousness are not defined by appearances."</p> <p>But the new Dora is cute!! They should have made her over weight, mohawk hair style, with zits and yet smart as ever. That way we find out whether she is defined by appearance or not. My guess is the she is defined by appearance. Fat, odd hair style, with zits, yet smart won't fly.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275395&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="jI58u4iXwqmzQRIzTYZXsSpyfK5E2MhC0E4XBi5ThCs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.wagicalplace.com/about.shtml" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Danimal (not verified)</a> on 18 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275395">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275396" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237394765"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Kids like merchandising. So if they're going to go for that, I prefer mine go for this Dora than Hannah Montanna.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275396&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="oGpi78dj-rsvdjun_lbp67fnzizFqxd1x8M9GtX2iFo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://liliannattel.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lilian Nattel (not verified)</a> on 18 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275396">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275397" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237404089"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Have you heard Britney's new single? It's terrific for dancing, but I dread listening to 8-yr olds sing 'If You Seek Amy'. [say the title slowly out loud]</p></blockquote> <p>I don't get it, Sheril. And I really, really want to.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275397&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="dYKo5ne2ktEVSzVGeM6sKJHf3v-fd6SbRqpzmz_Cu4Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Isis the Scientist (not verified)</a> on 18 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275397">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275398" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237404265"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Nevermind. I Googled it. Got it. Damn.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275398&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="eToF5nTYevGq5oKzOuRWecNE8DOEumaVA-oDOkicRs0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Isis the Scientist (not verified)</a> on 18 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275398">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/intersection/2009/03/17/dora-revealed%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:27:02 +0000 sheril 112466 at https://scienceblogs.com Imagine A Doll That Sends The Message Smart = Attractive... https://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/03/11/just-imagine-a-doll-that-empha <span>Imagine A Doll That Sends The Message Smart = Attractive...</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><form mt:asset-id="6985" class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;" contenteditable="false"><img src="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/wp-content/blogs.dir/433/files/2012/04/i-1e58460101722b1c2e4d8ea936c6d026-New dora.jpg" alt="i-1e58460101722b1c2e4d8ea936c6d026-New dora.jpg" /></form> <p>The blogosphere is <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-alvear/did-mattel-turn-dora-the_b_172735.html">buzzing</a> over <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/story?id=7033295&amp;page=1">the new</a> middle school aged <em><a href="http://www.nickjr.co.uk/shows/dora/index.aspx">Dora The Explorer</a></em> because of her <a href="http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/lifestyle/view/2009_03_09_Dios_mio%21_New_doll_is_more_like_Dora_the_Exploiter/">recently</a> released silhouette.</p> <p>Over at <a href="http://packaginggirlhood.typepad.com/packaging_girlhood/2009/02/lets-go-no-makeover-for-dora.html"><em>Packaging Girlhood</em></a>, Lynn and Sharon suggest:</p> <blockquote><p>If the original Dora grew up, she wouldn't be a fashion icon or a shopaholic. She'd develop her map reading skills and imagine the places she could go. She'd capitalize on those problem solving skills to design new ways to bring fresh water to communities in need around the world. Maybe she'd become a world class runner or follow her love of animals and become a wildlife preservationist or biologist.</p></blockquote> <p>Wait... what?! We've only seen her <em>silhouette</em> and have <i>no idea </i>what Dora's up to yet. And since when are brains and social consciousness defined by appearances? The notion is absolutely ridiculous. Further, I would love to see more messages to girls (<i>and boys</i>) that <strong>smart = attractive</strong>. Because <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2007/08/review_of_math_doesnt_suck_bec_1.php">it certainly does</a>!</p> <p>I hope that Dora remains curious, clever, self confident, and kind. And if she chooses to do so while wearing cute shoes, she's entitled. I could wax poetic on this one, but Isis has done a terrific job over at <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist/2009/03/trampy_toys_and_what_we_tell_o.php"><em>On Becoming A Domestic And Laboratory Goddess</em></a> so go take a look. In short, we each have <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2008/12/ladies.php">many dimensions</a> that make us interesting and unique.  Let's not judge Dora's character based on an obscure image before we learn more about who she is.  </p> <p>Of course, I hope she loses <a href="http://www.nickjr.co.uk/shows/dora/boots.aspx">the monkey</a>... Sends <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/intersection/2009/03/the_science_behind_why_chimpan.php">the wrong message</a> to kids.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/intersection" lang="" about="/intersection" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sheril</a></span> <span>Wed, 03/11/2009 - 05:32</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/culture" hreflang="en">Culture</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/women-politics" hreflang="en">Women In Politics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/women-science" hreflang="en">women in science</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/careers" hreflang="en">careers</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/dora-explorer" hreflang="en">Dora The Explorer</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/girls" hreflang="en">girls</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275251" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236764693"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>She looks like she has an oversized head. Nothing should be impossible for her.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275251&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PrOg1nOsAjqC__Kj0k92AVhASOKCBaYCWIabEJCVgso"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://ashutoshchemist.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ashutosh (not verified)</a> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275251">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275252" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236766361"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Great post. Smart is most attractive! Consider the men and women on Scienceblogs :&gt;</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275252&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SHf9jxmdTl7QoqElcQZ0JW3oDU1FWxrl_Z04Qc9VGPs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Daniella (not verified)</span> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275252">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275253" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236767315"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Looks to me like Dora has a gigantic head AND a mechanical claw for her left hand. But here's a thought: for a variety of reasons both cultural and evolutionary, females have, on average, better social reasoning skills than males. This is a perfectly respectable form of intelligence. So why not make such skills the object of admiration? Would we want to teach girls to ignore one of their great strengths and instead pursue just one dimension of intelligence?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275253&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lvzsVHdKbbtefInPt5qdAYA64brsHLY__NmHbP6kM4A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Erasmussimo (not verified)</span> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275253">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275254" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236777747"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm still trying to figure out how making people look more gender-typified and more "pretty" by culturally norms actually sends the message "smart = attractive".<br /> I don't think the problem is that we send the message "if you're smart, you must be dumb" (that message does exist, but it is so inane that at least we can mock it comfortably).<br /> The trouble as I see it, is that we send people (but <b>especially</b> young girls) the message that being "pretty" is what <i>matters</i>. It's a much more pernicious message- because it's pretty darn hard to deny on factual grounds that being pretty is an asset. I'm not sure this Dora helps on that front.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275254&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fWn-6jVRqkcAtQXiG0uzlELcy9Fzs7sfFJP7axiV_Qk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">becca (not verified)</span> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275254">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275255" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236779803"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Part of the problem with this though- is that we unconsciously perceive good looking women to be less competent. The same does not go for good looking men. I forget where I read this but it was probably in Virginia Valian's fine book. </p> <p>I'm with Becca 100%, I do not want my 11 and 6 year old daughters to internalize the societal message that being 'pretty' is what matters or what makes them valuable as people. That's a big part of the reason why I despise this whole 'hotness' discussion. I have daughters and they are exactly at this vulnerable age- and they do not have the strength of an adult to resist this message.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275255&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="frLgdybm0wbE_tFvBRk_jAHkdlWKI-G6m7wkfnLBdNg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://bluelabcoats.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">drdrA (not verified)</a> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275255">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275256" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236780548"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Good luck fighting that one, becca; the elephant in the room is that men prefer beautiful women over ugly women. Trying to convince girls that beauty doesn't matter is like trying to convince teens that they should abstain from sex until they're married. Moreover, you'll never convince men to ignore physical appearance in selecting mates. You're up against a bulldozer called "SEX" and you will only be crushed by it. A more effective strategy, I think, would be to convince girls that it's even BETTER to be smart AND beautiful. That way, homely girls could feel greater confidence knowing that they're halfway there. </p> <p>There's a TV show called "Bones" that my wife loves (and I occasionally watch along). It has a beautiful heroine who is also very smart, but her intelligence is the dominant factor, not her appearance. She comes off as a really smart woman who also happens to be beautiful. She's independent, fearless, aggressive, free of sexual shyness, can physically take down a man when necessary -- definitely a great role model. I think this kind of thing represents the approach we can take. Moreover, the writing is excellent, the character mix is colorful, and there's nothing blatantly feminist about it, so it doesn't touch off any defensive reactions from anybody.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275256&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="afUFybpeUaJcyMUgBj-t5wbRkhJWHF75qGun13w_neI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Erasmussimo (not verified)</span> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275256">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275257" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236781681"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>yorumsuz</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275257&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SMEbgDGJgvcd9L4ohn68u51W5vIeTSnUt-q5cRVq91Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.kelebek.gen.tr" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">kelebek (not verified)</a> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275257">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275258" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236781913"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>There are different ways to be 'smart' and being socially adept is part of it. Hygeine and looking one's best are often extensions of that. It's part of understanding culture which demonstrates intelligence through another lens.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275258&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hKm1ZO33tcpnUxI32ttv_xWikW7U5rJIe-bSR3IfmT0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">emily (not verified)</span> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275258">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275259" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236793890"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If being pretty is a prerequisite for breeding - why are there so amny "ugly" people in the world?</p> <p>At some point, people must decide that there are other factors besides physical beauty that make a mate attractive, otherwise where did YOU come from, dear readers?</p> <p>;]</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275259&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OwsNgo15o6abpMQpOPsmcELGLjgTuDji6ygIiWHxlIY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bink (not verified)</span> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275259">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275260" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236797692"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Men strive to "be with" the most desirable women (defined any way you want). The MOST attractive females then have their pick of the male litter. Think of two overlapping bell curves. The net result is that even a not-really-very-attractive woman can get an average guy (Bink--that's where you must come from), but the worst drek of a guy is shit out of luck.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275260&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_UpoDLUBKWvFLFYCeqOIvz_50UDXR4GLQXuw_nz_SQc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric the Leaf (not verified)</span> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275260">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275261" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236807556"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>My daughter adores Dora so much, she's watching her everyday, good thing is she's learning a little spanish...I wonder what she would look like if she's grown up.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275261&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tPKf4RJ3stDSAsOxAINEa4iw9-l79g5-hXoQmKbUNaY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.gamexp.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">eq2 plat (not verified)</a> on 11 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275261">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275262" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236838953"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>IIRC, at least according to statistical studies, intelligence increases the sexual success of women (happier sex life, more partners etc). For men it's just the opposite.</p> <p>I think it might be partly explained by the differences in intelligence standard deviations. If we assume there is a flatter intelligence distribution for men, smart women are surrounded by many men that are their intellectual equals - whereas average women have less peer men to choose from. And the opposite for men - smart men have only a few smart women they have to fight over.</p> <p>Of course reality is much more complicated, these are just thought experiments.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275262&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Kxvyt7T1rXIIBxslgGUXdCZ3ECCqth1GAz_UpMEfRBE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://gravityloss.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gravityloss (not verified)</a> on 12 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275262">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275263" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236839692"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The above has a caveat: If the smart women see the less smart men as desirable (as opposed to the overabundance of smart men) but the less smart men see the smart women as a threat, then there is a problem for a woman being smart - ie it is a problem if you don't assume a striving toward finding an equal partner.</p> <p>Of course, there are always easy ways of getting stupider, at least momentarily, like alcohol. :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275263&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Wf8Ty7TUGUEBbjlAWVIsggDI_2FsNE0yO_XF_YX9mxg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://gravityloss.wordpress.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gravityloss (not verified)</a> on 12 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275263">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2275264" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1236893306"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thanks for writing about this Sheril. I really go weary of the compartmentalization of women and the fact that there is no positive message for young girls. No wonder adolescence is such a hard time.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2275264&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="XUh2METKFuxlmP8MT4Msohy_TfEyHmYmHoWo-AR1W3w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.scienceblogs.com/isisthescientist" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Isis the Scientist (not verified)</a> on 12 Mar 2009 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/5668/feed#comment-2275264">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/intersection/2009/03/11/just-imagine-a-doll-that-empha%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:32:56 +0000 sheril 112454 at https://scienceblogs.com