the Nation https://scienceblogs.com/ en The Nation Corrects Vox on Sanders Tax Hike https://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2016/04/14/the-nation-corrects-vox-on-sanders-tax-hike <span>The Nation Corrects Vox on Sanders Tax Hike</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>A while back Vox produced a tax modeler that would tell you how your taxes would change with Sanders plan. It raised most people's taxes by a few thousand dollars. But the modeling was misleading because the same plan would probably reduce health care costs for those same individuals.</p> <p>I pointed that out back at the time but most of the response to me pointed out was the ridiculous recitation of completely wrong information (from both sides of the debate) so I dropped it because it really doesn't matter. President Sanders or President Clinton would not produce any tax plans. Not their job.</p> <p>Anyway, The Nation, which has gone all in with Bernie as I'm sure it should, came out with a counter modeler for taxes. so the Vox piece is <a href="http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/3/25/11293258/tax-plan-calculator-2016">here</a>, The Nation's piece is <a href="http://www.thenation.com/article/voxs-tax-calculator-is-wildly-misleading-so-we-made-a-better-one/">here</a>.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/gregladen" lang="" about="/author/gregladen" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gregladen</a></span> <span>Thu, 04/14/2016 - 12:44</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/election-2016" hreflang="en">Election 2016</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/bernie-sanders" hreflang="en">Bernie Sanders</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/tax-plan" hreflang="en">Tax Plan</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/nation" hreflang="en">the Nation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/universal-health-insurance" hreflang="en">Universal Health Insurance</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/vox" hreflang="en">Vox</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-categories field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Categories</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/channel/policy" hreflang="en">Policy</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1470509" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1460691665"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Right! Most 'mericans can't even do simple math and could care less about the future! Believing that a bomb from ISIS is terrifying but driving your car is safe! Is a good example of their math inability! Most people don't realize the escalating costs of health care as they get older, so paying an extra $2000/yr at 20yrs old is terrible, but this would allow you to get $100000 worth of medical treatment at 70yrs old. The math is simple but no one does it!!!!! Especially when you think you will be dead by 60 because of all the drugs you used!!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1470509&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="WwzLMF7K1UbsVvbqEOgYxI60vh0U6SigG09YcC6IkQE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">L.Long (not verified)</span> on 14 Apr 2016 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1470509">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1470510" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1460713431"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Completely irrelevant. </p> <p>In a Bernie v Kasich (or even Cruz) general election, what would matter would be the ads:</p> <p>"Bernie is promising to take away your employer-provided health insurance, raise your taxes, and cut your compensation."</p> <p>Completely True, unlike many Republican charges. And Bernie would lose massively.</p> <p>Remember Harry and Louise?</p> <p>It is magical thinking to argue about the merits of a plan that will never be implemented.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1470510&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Cni0_HyKsFIcorx9evXzQjRwvlD6OmN2wrpwi2Nr7YA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">zebra (not verified)</span> on 15 Apr 2016 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1470510">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1470511" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1460820083"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>L.Long check your math :) If at age 20 you are paying an extra $2,000 per annum for insurance and do so for 50 years before requiring $100,000 worth of healthcare then you have already paid that $100,000 (50x2000) so no real benefit. You could have invested that money and reaped some interest/capital gains etc instead of letting some other entity get it. I'm all for single payer btw - being Canadian it's saved my life on more than one occasion - I just think you need a better example :)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1470511&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PaW7h4G1QwWA3U7DS6kHe8pNFJwWc7mjOdxw0EIKLdM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Douglas C Alder (not verified)</span> on 16 Apr 2016 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1470511">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/gregladen/2016/04/14/the-nation-corrects-vox-on-sanders-tax-hike%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:44:09 +0000 gregladen 33906 at https://scienceblogs.com Do the Hustle https://scienceblogs.com/casaubonsbook/2012/05/30/the-hustle <span>Do the Hustle</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>From The Nation, <a href="http://www.alternet.org/economy/155491/where_are_the_missing_5_million_workers_in_the_underground_economy" target="_blank">Laura Flanders has a piece</a> on what happened to all those long-term unemployed people who have given up - with a flattering quote from yours truly (the quote is further along, to give you an incentive to read the whole thing ;-)).</p> <p><em> Look around, it’s much more likely that the officially “unemployed” are busy, doing their best to make ends meet in whatever ways they can. Sex work, drugs and crime spring to mind, but the underground or “shadow” economy includes all sorts of off-the-books toil. From baby-sitting, bartering, mending, kitchen-garden farming and selling goods in a yard sale, all sorts of people—from the tamale seller on your corner, to the dancer who teachers yoga—are all contributing to the underground economy along with the “employed” who pay them for their wares.</em></p> <p id="paragraph8"><em>The “underground” is always with us. For better and often for worse, it’s how marginalized populations tend to survive—often not very well. (Think of the old, the young, the formerly incarcerated or foreign.) In recessions—surprise, surprise—“irregular” employment grows. Consider recent stories from Greece about wageless public “workers” swapping skills and trading food for teaching. </em></p> <p>The story includes the fascinating observation that we're seeing as much off-books, informal economy activity as during WWII under rationing.  While this is bad for the IRS, and often tough for the folks living in the informal economy, one of my main premises is that because the informal economy is both larger and more robust (ie, much more likely to survive in a crisis situation), it is foolish for Americans to put all their eggs in the formal economy basket.  We need to strengthen and diversify the informal economy in the US (the US has one of the largest informal economies in the world, but one of the smallest as a portion of total economic activity).</p> <p>Last year I got a ride back from a talk I gave with a lovely, kind young woman who told me about her and her husband's collection of economic activities.  A combination of temping, dog-walking and making internet sex videos, as well as robust barter, home sharing and sustainability activities made them fairly comfortable in 20-something terms.  They worried mostly about health care - she wanted to have a child, and was hoping that she'd be able to home birth because of the untenable cost of a hospital or birthing center birth.  I hear stories like hers over and over again, particularly among the recent college graduates who have never had full access to the formal economy, and don't seem likely to get it any time soon.</p> <p>It isn't just recent graduates, though, by any means.  Out here in the boonies, living in the informal economy has always been the norm - barter, under the table cash for farm-products, handyman work for cash (presumably unreported - I don't know that, but I'd lay odds), this is how a considerable number of my neighbors make their living.  Indeed, there have been years where barter for firewood or car usage has made it possible for us to get along.</p> <p>A couple of years ago, at a conference I attended, a minister working in low income neighborhoods in urban New Haven laughed at me when I talked about "the informal economy."  He said "Down here, we just call it "the hustle" and everyone has to have a hustle to survive.  We try and get them out of selling drugs, but whether they are watching their sister's kids or driving a cab at night off books, everyone has to  have a hustle."</p> <p>This is the reality of poverty, and it is coming to a neighborhood near you - I actually like "the hustle' way better than "cottage industry" or "work in the informal economy" - its got a good rhythm and you can dance to it - and you may have to, sooner rather than later.  Given that, the key to an informal economy that support the influx of workers from the next major global economic crisis and the one after that is to strengthen it - and get your own hustle.</p> <p>Sharon</p> <p> </p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/sastyk" lang="" about="/author/sastyk" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sastyk</a></span> <span>Wed, 05/30/2012 - 07:20</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/uncategorized" hreflang="en">Uncategorized</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/alternet" hreflang="en">Alternet</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/economy" hreflang="en">economy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/informal-economy" hreflang="en">informal economy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/laura-flanders" hreflang="en">Laura Flanders</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/hustle" hreflang="en">the hustle</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/nation" hreflang="en">the Nation</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1886576" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1338421971"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>We do the hustle quite a bit. My husband is helping a neighbor with his haying in order to put up hay for our sheep next winter. Hay has become quite expensive compared to what it once used to be when we started with sheep.</p> <p>He also shears. He sheared 20 sheep for the two new ewes . He also sheared 10 sheep for a car that needs a little work. </p> <p>I often trade kids clothes with friends. We have worked out a community work party coop for help with projects around the home. </p> <p>Once we pay off some debt out monthly income requirements will be substantially less. So as long as we keep hustlin' our lifestyle should be simple and easier to afford.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1886576&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vlhxBxWBmOzYmiroPb3N1ygrChFnJ24vV_0Q7FcHfLI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Karin (not verified)</span> on 30 May 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1886576">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1886577" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1338477860"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"The informal economy" is also huge in areas without a lot of access to outside stuff, traditionally. When things are expensive, and shipped from far away, you look around first to see what someone else has and doesn't need. Around here it's mostly known as "the transfer station". :) Dumpster diving is not just overlooked, it's actually encouraged. I feel like with the big box stores moving in to my area, we're losing that and it's nice when I see other people having "Transfer station fashion shows" and such.<br /> Someone once said of Fairbanks that only the super rich go to thrift stores, everyone else knows that a better deal can be had at the transfer station. Community support goes hand in hand with this, as people will pass along to friends or friends-of-friends or strangers what they don't need.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1886577&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZrgO6z3IayFc_Ne2jgD-lOQCxfJRk16Rm6ZwS4bMjxU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Sister X (not verified)</span> on 31 May 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1886577">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1886578" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1338478302"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"It has a good beat and you can dance to it." Made me smile~! </p> <p>While one of us has (firmly for now), we continually explore ways to "diversify" our economic activities. Not talking about mutual funds or stocks here but rather what relationships do we need to cultivate to maximize sharing, trading, work exchange, etc. Trading work on a farm for food, swapping food for space to grow said food, childcare exchange, garden supply swap and labor exchange. Building this kind of community keeps us connected to others in real, tangible ways and gives us all practice in something other than money exchange.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1886578&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="HiTvbUcFEC5dq4JGnszojcwZZtDxrO3Un_QaJWmdwFY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lisa Coons (not verified)</span> on 31 May 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1886578">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1886579" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1338506904"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I was just re-reading an anthropology article I had published a few years ago about spirituality, paganism and people's efforts to re-make themselves in a kind of utopian, revolutionary project: <a href="http://anubisbard.blogspot.com/2012/05/i-follow-some-blogs-that-deal-with.html">Witchcrafting Selves</a>. And one of the points I was pursuing was the way in which people trying to disentangle themselves from a culture they didn't want to be a part of (morally and psychologically) -- had to disentangle themselves from the economic relations that kept them wrapped up in the mainstream. It's harsh that so many people are being forcibly and ejected from the labor-for-wage economy against their will -- but that can be a precursor for forming new kinds of relationships - and an exit from our thoroughly dysfunctional system. Silver linings and all that, ya know.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1886579&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3Dpt2WzwlDnkrE1m2ca2bPq1Q2MxVIzExNRoTzXisnM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Andy Brown (not verified)</span> on 31 May 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1886579">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1886580" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1338550049"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Sharon, It's odd but your blog didn't show up in my RSS feed for the past month. I had thought you were on hiatus, and then suddenly a dozen posts showed up at once.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1886580&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="gwX2SKYd4UpZerxuNVN0YdCYH8IRHrsSfLGk_jK2MNM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Andy Brown (not verified)</span> on 01 Jun 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1886580">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1886581" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1338671330"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Bartering, trading, exchanging, or whatever terminolgy you choose, is a great way to get to know your community better. It can be of great benefit to know what goods and services are available within walking distance of your own home.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1886581&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="QU2WueTxf5HiKbb-op6w5FpxhUJnDyxfStqrIltsw4w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Gen (not verified)</span> on 02 Jun 2012 <a href="https://scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/8074/feed#comment-1886581">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/casaubonsbook/2012/05/30/the-hustle%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 30 May 2012 11:20:28 +0000 sastyk 63862 at https://scienceblogs.com