"Sapiens" Is Not A Plural

Can I put in a plug for "biceps" too, while you're on the subject?

Yes, please do.

And "forceps".

While on the subject, I've also heard the Swedish equivalents of "one centimete" and "one contain".

Oh, and note that "dice" is plural. It's one die.

So that's what Frank Black means on the first Pixies album when he, quoting bassist Kim Deal, says "You fuckin' die".

Eventually these misconceptions get accepted through general use, which is one of several reasons why we no longer speak Latin/Old North Germanic. I don't think you can hold the line on datum/data any more, and I suspect that die/dice will go the same way in my lifetime. Homo sapiens, though, is a formal term which can't be varied without screwing up all the rules of taxonomy. So no way.

"Homo sapiens, though, is a formal term which can't be varied without screwing up all the rules of taxonomy."

You say that almost as though the great march of language change cares about your trumpery little rules, little human. :)

You say that almost as though the great march of language change cares about your trumpery little rules, little human. :)

You have it backwards. Nomenclature doesn't care about language.

I was kidding, David, but I can see where you might have got confused. Sorry about that.

This is an example of "back-formation", a process that has been going on since time immemorial. Not that that means that we should encourage it! It explains why, in English, it's a cherry rather than a cherrise and a pea rather than a pease, for instance. My own disfavorite example these days is "kudo".

I did a study of small children acquiring English as their 1st language. You would really get a kick out of all the wondrous inventions they come up with! One little girl came up to me (age 4) to ask, "What when we are not scared?" I answered, "Brave." She then announced, "I am not scared of things any more. I am brave of them." Oy!
How about the comedian who calls people up on the phone and tells them their son has been tested and discovered to be a HOMO (Loud voice)...sapiens (quiet voice). They go to pieces (on the air) and insist, "Oh no he's not! He likes girls, he plays football..." (thinking he meant homosexual).
So, now that we have that straight, how are you at Greek? If the fellow who sails in a "naus" is a "nautes", then is the fellow who rows with a "plate" a "plates" ? Sorry, I don't have a Greek font, but those are long "e"s, not the ones that look like a backward "3".

My Greek is faeces, but I make a good feta salad.

"O look, a Homo Erectu! And the remains of his Canis Lupu still faithfully guarding his master." Sounds good; should start using this form more.

Now, now, Janne -- "canis" ends with an S and is thus clearly a plural. Therefore you have to inflect the adjective, so it's "one cani lupu, "two canis lupi". (-;

"Erectu" would be supine ablative but wouldn't match with "homo", of course.

/ Mattias

I once heard some - oviously who had heard about the data are - data is controversy say - "these datas is"

The brain is a wonderful thing...

daveG

But "one centimete" and "one contain" isn't Swedish, is it?

Kontakt, I think Pär meant that he's heard "en centimet", "en contain". Not that it makes much of a difference.

Personally I always had a bit of trouble with the swedish word "racket". I want it to be "rack"...

By the way, Martin, while you're at it - why not inform people that only the genus is capitalised, whereas the species epithet is never capitalised? Ok so it's a minor quibble but given that nomenclature and naming conventions are so easy to look up I really don't get why even science journalists get this one wrong... /flail

"Oh, and note that "dice" is plural. It's one die."
What about 'two die four'?

Now this is a much more sapient pattern:
louse - lice, mouse - mice, douse - dice

Felicia, I've heard "rack" used in southern Sweden: "tog du med ditt rack?", with "racket" as the definitive(?) form: "det här racket är uruselt".

If we get really fussy, sapiens is NOT an adjective ending in s. The s is actually the nominative singular case ending. Sapiens really ends in t, but the t is deleted preceding the s. Compare the nominative singular sapiens with the genitive singular sapient-is, the accusative singular sapient-em, the nominative plural sapient-es, etc. Regrettably, few English speakers use the full set of Latin case forms. But one could: "Joe is a homo sapiens." but "Behind me, I glimpsed a hominem sapientem."

Now, if somebody would just explain why we need to distinguish between hominiDs and hominiNs.

One of my favorite examples of a mis-analysis is what happened to the word for "king" in Coptic, which I discussed in this Language Log post.

Cool! In Swedish, we've borrowed the plurals "caps, cakes, rails" and made them into singulars, en keps, ett kex, en räls.

Oh, hey, I actually know the difference between hominiDs and hominiNs. The first ones, hominDs, are all our ancestors, you see. That term arose when all the paleoarcheologists thought our human family tree was like the River Nile, just running straight back, with no branches. Later, they discovered all those Australopithecus this, that, and the other, and realized they couldn't all be our direct ancestors. So they decided they needed a term for human-like-possible-ancestors-but-not-necessarily. That's where the hominiNs came in. Personally, I think we could have simply redefined the original word and saved ourselves the bother, but they didn't ask me. They never do! Very narrow-minded of them, isn't it? (By the by, I have a degree in this area).