Scientologists blame psychiatry for 9/11

We'll have to add Scientology to Pal's list of disease-promoting groups. Via Screw Loose Change I learn that as part of their bizarre hatred of psychiatry, they've now taken to saying that 9/11 was caused by psychiatrists in addition to the holocaust. Apparently, Osama was just a regular guy until al-Zawahiri, a psychiatrist, got to him. Strange considering al Zawahiri was not a psychiatrist at all.

Scientologists Try to Explain how Psychiatrists caused 9/11 and the Holocaust from Chris Doyle on Vimeo.

Anyway, watch the crazy!

I'll have a post up on my experience on my psych clerkship soon.

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Hereâs part of The June 1983 Penthouse Magazine interview with L.Ron Hubbard Jr.

Hubbard: Scientology is a power-and-money-and-intelligence-gathering game. To use common, everyday English, Scientology says that you and I and everybody else willed ourselves into being hundreds of trillions of years ago -just by deciding to be. We willed ourselves into being ourselves. Through wild space games, interaction, fights, and wars in the grand science-fiction tradition, we created this universe -all the matter, energy, space, and time of this universe. And so through these trillions of years, we have become the effect of our own cause and we now find ourselves trapped in bodies. So the idea of Scientology âauditingâ or âcounselingâ or âprocessingâ is to free yourself from your body and to return you to the original godlike state or, in Scientology jargon, an operating Thetan -O.T. We are all fallen gods, according to Scientology, and the goal is to be returned to that state.
Penthouse: And what is the Church of Scientology?
Hubbard: Itâs one of my fatherâs many organizations. It was formed in 1953, basically to avoid the harassment of my father by the medical profession and the IRS. The idea of Scientology didnât really exist before that point as a religion, but my father hit upon turning it into a church after he started feeling pressured.
Penthouse: Didnât your father have any interest in helping people?
Hubbard: No.
Penthouse: Never?
Hubbard: My father started out as a broke science-fiction writer. He was always broke in the late 1940s. He told me and a lot of other people that the way to make a million was to start a religion. Then he wrote the book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health while he was in Bayhead, New Jersey. When we later visited Bayhead, in about 1953, we were walking around and reminiscing -he told me that he had written the book in one month.
Penthouse: There was no church when he wrote the book?
Hubbard: Oh, no, no. You see, his goal was basically to write the book, take the money and run. But in 1950, this was the first major book of do-it-yourself psychotherapy, and it became a runaway best-seller. He kept getting, literally, mail trucks full of mail. And so he and some other people, including J. W. Campbell, the editor of Astounding Science Fiction , started the Dianetics Research Foundation in Elizabeth, New Jersey. And the post office kept backing up and just dumping mail sacks into the building. The foundation had a staff that just ran through the envelopes and threw away anything that didnât have any money in it.
Penthouse: People sent money?
Hubbard: Yeah, they wanted training and further Dianetic auditing, Dianetic processing. It was just an incredible avalanche.
Penthouse: Did he write the book off the top of his head? Did he do any real research?
Hubbard: No research at all. When he has answered that question over the years, his answer has changed according to which biography he was writing. Sometimes he used to write a new biography every week. He usually said that he had put thirty years of research into the book. But no, he did not. What he did, reaily, was take bits and pieces from other people and put them together in a blender and stir them all up -and out came Dianetics! All the examples in the book -some 200 âreal-life experiencesâ -were just the result of his obsessions with abortions and unconscious states⦠In fact, the vast majority of those incidents were invented off the top of his head
for the rest of the interview go to
http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/scien240.html
I know someone who got sucked into that Scientology I didnât know he was a Scientologist until one day, about 4 years ago, he said âRob hereâs a book you should read.â He passed me Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard. I laughed and said âL. Con Flubbfart ha forget it.â For the first time in the years since Iâve known the guy he displayed anger and Iâm talking very angry!!! Verbally with an agressive face.
After that display he went on to talk about the ability to walk through walls, he hasnât reached that level but he plans on getting there etc⦠Iâve also heard of that course from an ex-Scientologist and neither of them know each other.
A common brainwashing technique used by cults is that of malnutrition. By supplying a diet to their subjects that lacks the proper amount of proteins, vitamins, and minerals necessary for a healthy body and mind their subjects easily fall prey to suggestion whether it is direct through discussion or indirect through literature.
Hereâs a website that describes some of the unusual deaths of Scientology members
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/

Let's hope they're not building the underground vault for a modern day version of
(quoted from the June 1983 Penthouse interview with L. Ron Hubbard Jr.

Penthouse: Did it ever go beyond these physical beatings?

Hubbard: I remember locking one girl up in a shack out in the desert for at least a couple or weeks.

I'm dying to see this fight: Scientologists vs. Holocaust deniers.

Let's get ready to rrrrrummmmble!!!!!

By Shaden Freud (not verified) on 16 Feb 2009 #permalink

Check the guy's education out. There's no secret about it. Wikipedia isn't a bad source, but not a complete source. Books have been written about Bin Laden's "right hand man". Some of those tell about his education as a medical doctor, in psychology, and other behavour - directing studies. This isn't a man who boldly carries a weapon into battle. This is a man who was raised very strictly, who excelled at university, whose influence manifests by controlling other people. And he does have at least one full degree in psychology.

Let me see if I've got this straight. Ronald Reagan's Freedom Fighters were psychiatrists? Where did they get their medical training? Which schools conferred their degrees?

Wouldn't the kamikazes have to have been psychiatrists as well?

Do these wackadoos remind you of GOP ideologues and Rush Limbaugh?

By Gilipollas Caraculo (not verified) on 16 Feb 2009 #permalink

Terryeo, face facts, al-Zawahiri is NOT a psychiatrist or even a psychologist. He is a surgeon. Even if he were a shrink, it's preposterous to say what those CCHR goofballs are saying.

Scientologists stubbornly believe something studid? That is incredible. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me the KKK is racist.

religion often is irritating but scientology scares the crap out of me.

the higher members are psychopaths and they groom children into psychopaths. they absolutely terrify me, i can't say it enough.

they almost certainly target psychiatry to prevent the "deprogramming" of their members or even potential members. having people think critically about their life works against them.

i know i'm speculating a little, but this in my view is how they work. they are cold calculating psychopaths, they aren't just some disillusioned creationists or holocaust deniers. they don't spout this stuff because they're disillusioned, they knowingly do it to exploit the vulnerable.

By zombie_bot (not verified) on 16 Feb 2009 #permalink

plus they're making psychiatry a scapegoat, making scientology the "good" guys and psychiatry the "bad" guys.

By zombie_bot (not verified) on 16 Feb 2009 #permalink

The Raelians, just the day fater 9/11, proposed to take cell samples of passengers of all flights, and, in case of a crash, just clone all the victims, bring them all back to life, and then severly punish the fresh-cloned hijackers...

Tom Cruise needs to speak out on "the psychs" more, and all the crimes they've perpetrated, according to the crazy cult of Scientology. Isn't it something that the U.S. government gave tax exempt status to this cult of lunatics?

Recently, Germany produced an excellent TV program on criminal scam of Scientology, called THE BRAINWASHERS which can be found on youtube. (Turn on the subtitles by clicking in lower right hand corner of video window.)

Indeed, you have to be brainwashed to believe a fraction of the malarkey these loons believe. Prime example: Terryeo

If it weren't for Scientology's billions in wealth, abuse of the people they brainwash, and plans for world domination, they'd just be pathetic and amusing. Instead, their scam needs to be exposed, mocked and dismantled.

By Warren Rich (not verified) on 17 Feb 2009 #permalink

I'm still not completely convinced that Scientology is actually a religion. Sometimes I think it's just a gigantic money-making pyramid scheme. Other times, I think it's just one big joke like FSM that ended up being taken seriously. Maybe the people at the top are having a laugh at the expense of the lower people who actually believe, or all of them are laughing at society for believing that they actually believe this stuff. The whole thing is just too weird.

Agree completely with what zombie_bot said. Scientology is not a religion but an invention of a ruthless and coldly calculating psychopath named L Ron Hubbard. They do not have the slightest inclination to helping people and only their duped members believe the shitty excuses for giving away all their money and productivity. The core ideology of being "Operating Thetan" is at-cause over everything, which means controlling and dominating. It is 100% self-interested and seeks to teach others to be completely self-interested "gods" with super powers.

By Anonymous (not verified) on 17 Feb 2009 #permalink

The Scilons always cry foul when they're called a UFO cult. "I've never heard anything about Xenu and I've been a Scientologist for twenty years." Well, ol' Hubbard went on at length about the TRUE nature of our solar system, er, I mean, Space Station 33 . . .
http://www.vimeo.com/1227000
Space is WILD!

Mom sues Church of Scientology in son's death

CLEARWATER â A mother has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the Church of Scientology, its Flag Service Organization and three parishioners, claiming they brought about her son's death by denying him access to his antidepression medication.

By Trin Tragula (not verified) on 17 Feb 2009 #permalink

You getting all this, Will Smith?

The nuttiest stuff is on a site I suspect the CoS has forgotten about - a long-disused but still functioning website. I stumbled upon it during the Scientology Wars of one year ago.

http://opposing.scientology.org/31-end.htm

"Today, there are 500 Dianeticists and Scientologists to every psychiatrist, and while Scientology expands, enrollment in psychiatric university curriculums has slid to a drastic low since a peak in the 1960s. Without government appropriations, even these few psychiatrists would not be able to economically survive, for they have nothing to offer worth a cent of the publicâs money. Hence, while Scientology is more visible than ever, with churches dotting every continent on Earth and millions of parishioners around the world, one is hard pressed to find even a single psychiatrist with a shingle on his door. True, one can still find them in scuffed-linoleum offices of state and county hospitals, and lodged in the federal bureaucracy. But when was the last time anyone saw a sign advertising lobotomies, electric shock and seriously incapacitating drugs?"

By Anonymous (not verified) on 19 Feb 2009 #permalink

Of course we can assume that there has been a degree of psychology involved in any other the terrorist attacks here and abroad. Just not sure why scientology feels the need to find something to justify the attacks.

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