Respectful Insolence

I suppose it’s possible that there might be doubt that Rob Schneider has become a complete and total antivaccine wingnut. Possible, but not reasonable. After all, he’s shown his cards and risen to prominence with his attacks on vaccine science made as part of his effort to oppose the passage of California Bill AB 2109, which was finally passed and signed by Governor Jerry Brown, but not without an attempt to water it down by adding a pointless (and probably unconstitutional) set of instructions for implementation in a signing statement. Leading up to this, Schneider had “made a name for himself” by speaking at an anti-AB 2109 rally, comparing the bill’s sponsors to Nazis, and actually trying to make the specious argument that AB 2109 somehow violates the Nuremberg Code.

Yes, Schneider’s already done enough to demonstrate that he is an antiscience know-nothing when it comes to vaccines, but apparently he hasn’t done enough to satisfy himself. What could he do to make it absolutely clear beyond the proverbial shadow of a doubt that he’s gone down the rabbit hole of bad science, bad arguments, and pure misinformation that drives the antivaccine movement? Easy. He can start commenting on AoA:

This is Rob Schneider. Aung San Suu Kyi is the female Nobel Prize Winner from Burma. Recently, she gave some advice for Americans. She said, “America, protect your freedom!” Now Ms. Kyi know a thing or two about freedom. In Burma she had been under house arrest for almost 21 years. She is also the recipient of the highest civilian honor our country has, the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

So when Ms. Kyi says America protect your freedom, she is not saying it lightly. From the Patriot Act, where our Gov’t no longer needs a court order to spy on own citizens, to the assassination of Americans abroad without due process, Freedom is under attack.

But by far the most insidious of all Government intrusions is the one happening right now in America by Big Pharma in their collusion with our representatives in Government. Government coercion to force parents to make their children take any invasive medical procedures (vaccination of their children) is something out of an Orwellian nightmare or Nazi Germany. Just remove the word vaccine and replace it with an other medical procedure and you will begin to see how regressive and criminal this is.

Vaccines, unlike any other drug, is a one size fits all nightmare. The Vaccine makers insist ALL VACCINES MUST BE TAKEN BY EVERY ONE IN THE SCHEDULE THAT WE DECIDE! Name one other drug that is given such impunity. Every person is different and their precious immune systems don’t react the same way. 49 doses of 14 different Vaccines before the age of 6 is mandated by Doctor convenience and Big Pharma profits not patient wellness or sound scientific reasoning.

Please look up Dr. Palevsky and hear what a real pediatrician, not blinded by ideology or blind faith, but with the ability to reason and think rationally and for himself has to say!

Lastly, Freedom requires eternal vigilance. Big Pharma will try to attack and remove Religeous Exemption next!

Gee, Mr. Schneider, you say that as though it were a bad thing! If you don’t think that antivaccinationists view themselves and their children as precious little snowflakes, just take a gander at Schneider’s reference so every person being different and “their precious immune systems don’t react the same way.” They might not react exactly the same way, but they react similarly enough that the type of “individualization” that antivaccinationists demand is not necessary. There are medical contraindications to vaccination, and those are followed. They are contraindications based on science, not the fevered fears of antivaccinationists who use “individualization” as an excuse not to vaccinate.

Mr. Schneider seems to have a penchant for comparing his band of pseudoscience-loving antivaccinationists to freedom fighters. It’s a penchant he shares with all too many, who think themselves to be some sort of brave rebel alliance fighting against a galactic pharma empire led by an unholy alliance of pharma and government. This leads him, of course, to go straight to Godwin, once again comparing vaccine mandates to Nazi Germany.

Because requiring safe and effective vaccines before children can enter school and requiring parents to be given as close to true informed consent as possible about the risks and the benefits of vaccination as well as, even more importantly, the risks of not vaccinating is exactly like the sorts of medical atrocities the Nazis committed.

Checking out Schneider’s activity over the last few months, I can’t help but wonder if he’s auditioning for the job of Jenny McCarthy’s replacement. After all, McCarthy has been mighty quiet lately. Sure, she showed up at the antivaccine quackfest Autism One, as she does every year, but it’s been quite a while since I’ve seen her in the media promoting the idea that vaccines cause autism. Perhaps she realizes that such nonsense is bad for her career. Schneider doesn’t appear to have much of a career anymore; so he can let his antivaccine freak flag fly high.

Comments

  1. #1 Ren
    October 2, 2012

    He’s up to something, alright. I wonder if he’s trying to impress Jenny enough to get a date?

  2. #2 palindrom
    October 2, 2012
  3. #3 Anj
    October 2, 2012

    “Please look up Dr. Palevsky and hear what a real pediatrician, not blinded by ideology or blind faith, but with the ability to reason and think rationally and for himself has to say!”

    woot. If I wanted to seriously insult my pediatrician, I’d hand her that quote.

    OTOH – this phrase “not blinded by ideology or blind faith” should win Irony Of The Year award, if there was one.

  4. #4 Dave Ruddell
    October 2, 2012

    Every time I hear Rob Schneider’s name now, I just can’t help but think of South Park:

    “Rob Schneider derpa derpa derp…”

  5. #5 Mu
    October 2, 2012

    Last time Rob Schneider was in town they were running “free ticket” promotions on all local radio stations up to the day of the show. Unable to fill the stand-up room at the Indian casino he must be looking for a new audience. Wonder if they pay any better than the free show attendees.

  6. #6 lilady
    October 2, 2012

    @ Ren: The D-list celeb is making the rounds of TV shows, promoting her new book:

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/10/stephen-colbert-to-jenny-mccarthy-youre-going-to-hell/

  7. #7 Denice Walter
    October 2, 2012

    @ lilady:

    Last I read about her( last year?), she was promoting an exercise regime wherein you danced/ exercised alongside your comptuter or television following her lead as she ‘instructed’ you so that you might acquire a facsimile of her physical perfection ( cough)

  8. #8 AJ Milne
    October 2, 2012

    I sometimes wonder, when a celebrity on the down curve like that hops onto a weird ‘n dodgy cause bandwagon just what a dreadful mangle of motivations might be behind it…

    Suspicious of me, I know. I guess plenty is probably explained by the fact that being an actor or a comic doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve got the best bullshit filter in the world. That in combination with a (barely, in this case) valuable name and, well, there ya go. You get your failed Baldwins in bed with the born-agains, your Kirk Camerons…

    But I still can’t help wondering (aloud in this case) if they figure, what the hell, it may get me back in the spotlight again. And hey, if it just gets me laughed at (and not when I was trying to be funny), I can always see if I can get myself to buy the ‘o poor persecuted but wise me/Galileo Gambit’ thing…

    I guess, tho’, with reference to Kirk, he was already screwing his career with this stuff when he actually had one. Which does complicate that conjecture a mite.

  9. #9 Edith Prickly
    October 2, 2012

    What a dumbass. I suppose there’s a remote possibility this is some elaborate, Kaufman-esque spoof on celebrity anti-vax nuts, but then again – it’s Rob Schneider.

    And since someone else brought up South Park, I had to go look for this: http://youtu.be/PkVhMUH0nEc

  10. #10 Kelly M Bray
    23 minutes into the future
    October 2, 2012

    Hey, I am going to wade in this tonight. In the meantime if anyone would like to go slap Erwin Alber and CIA (cynthia) Parker around, I would appreciate the help. The stupid is running strong in the comments and they are spamming the pages with cut and paste posts. It’s about a Waldorf School with a painfully low vaccination rate. There is Polio denialism to mock.

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/school-372669-county-children.html

  11. #11 lilady
    October 2, 2012

    @ Kelly M. Bray: I “don’t do Facebook”…by CIA Parker/Cynthia Parker has an article in the Boise Weekly:

    http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/cynthia-parker/Profile?oid=2568859

    She also has posted as CIA Parker and under a variety of sockies… at the Shot of Prevention blog, telling that same story about her child’s vaccine injury (her own diagnosis of vaccine-induced encephalitis). Every time she tells that story…she gets nailed for her b.s. and gets laughed off the blog.

    Stick it to CIA Parker with the Boise Weekly claim of vaccine-induced encephalitis. Also provide her with any link to the treatment in an ICU for any encephalitis.

  12. #12 Todd W.
    http://harpocratesspeaks.com
    October 2, 2012

    @Orac

    You noticed he was gunning to be the new Jenny, too, huh?

    “Vaccines, unlike any other drug, is a one size fits all nightmare.”

    Rob, first off, I’d just like to point out that the vaccine schedule is not “one-size-fits-all”. Second, have you thought about that whole comparing vaccines to other drugs? What other drugs are given to prevent disease? There are plenty for treating diseases (including those caused by bacteria and viruses), but I can’t think of any that prevent diseases, other than vaccines. Maybe statins or something like that, but even those treat a condition so it doesn’t lead to CV disease.

  13. #13 Big Morbillie Style
    October 2, 2012

    Intramuscular vitamin K to prevent hemorrhagic disease of the newborn and ophthalmic erythromycin to prevent gonococcal ophthalmia neonatorum are the only ones that come to my mind. Of course there are folks who oppose that too, but they would be considered things that “MUST BE TAKEN BY EVERY ONE IN THE SCHEDULE THAT WE DECIDE!” as Mr. Schneider so eloquently put it.

  14. #14 lilady
    October 2, 2012

    ““Please look up Dr. Palevsky and hear what a real pediatrician, not blinded by ideology or blind faith, but with the ability to reason and think rationally and for himself has to say!”

    Yes, read what Dr. Palevsky posts on the internet about his practice:

    http://www.drpalevsky.com/faqs.asp

    Now, how did I *know* that Palevsky doesn’t take medical insurance, and payment up-front at the time of an office visit is by personal check, money order or credit card?

    Which “pediatrician to the stars” has this same type of pediatric practice?

  15. #15 Orac
    October 2, 2012

    And don’t forget that Dr. Palevsky figured prominently in the antivaccine propaganda film The Greater Good:

    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/11/18/anti-vaccine-propaganda-lands-in-new-yor/

  16. #16 Edith Prickly
    convulsed with laughter
    October 2, 2012

    thanks for the link, lilady – I wish Rob had listed Dr Palevsky’s treatments in his rant, it would have injected some much-needed humour:

    What are some of the treatments Dr. Palevsky has recommended for children?

    Dr. Palevsky views each child as a whole and unique individual. The therapies that he recommends in his practice include: Body Work, Chiropractic, Cranial-Sacral Therapy, Eastern/Asian Medicine, Environmental Medicine, Essential Oils/Aromatherapy, Functional Medicine, Herbology, Western/Eastern Homeopathy, Naturopathy, Nutritional Medicine, Osteopathy, Western Medicine.

    Oh Rob, keep bringing the comedy!

  17. #17 alison
    October 2, 2012

    Kelly Bray @ 12.46pm: thanks for the heads-up. I have been there & poked EA with a sharp stick a couple of times, but I doubt it will actually have any effect. His mind is completely cemented shut.

    One commenter seemed surprised that over-50s are the most ‘upset’ over the issue. I pointed out that perhaps it’s because we are old enough to remember people who suffered serious, long-lasting side-effects from things like polio. Will be interesting to see if she responds…

  18. #18 Gil
    October 2, 2012

    Rob Schneider goes into anti-vaccine hysteria? More like: Rob Schneider is that hard done by he’s grasping for straws to get attention.

  19. #19 Mark McAndrew
    October 2, 2012

    “What are some of the treatments Dr. Palevsky has recommended for children?”

    Magic water, magic oil, magic head-rubbing, magic massage…

    How the hell is that mega-quack allowed to masquerade as a doctor?

  20. #20 Christine
    Back in the office after a week away
    October 2, 2012

    Glad I’ve got another reason to despise this crude, talentless hack.

  21. #21 Kelly M Bray
    Over there...see?
    October 3, 2012

    LIlady, I had what my doctor thought was St. Louis encephalitis in the late 70’s. The symptoms are hard to mistake.

  22. #22 lilady
    Not over there...but here...see?
    October 3, 2012

    Kelly I hope you *used* the Boise Idaho article when you posted at CIA Parker.

    Here are the IDSA Guidelines for Managing Encephalitis:

    http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/47/3/303.full.pdf+html

    Why don’t you come over to play at this blog; a few of the “RI Regulars” are posting back at the “usual suspects” from the Ho-Po and from AoA:

    http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/vaccine-autism-debate-coming-to-la-crosse/article_88fe3612-0a92-11e2-bf97-0019bb2963f4.html

  23. #23 JJ
    October 3, 2012

    Everyone’s a unique snowflake who reacts differently to everything under the sun!

    ..which is why the same bacteria + viruses tend to infect us all in very similar ways..
    ..and why the same recreational substances tend to have similar effects on all of us..

  24. #24 herr doktor bimler
    October 3, 2012

    I have been there & poked EA with a sharp stick a couple of times

    Stalker!!

  25. #25 Grant
    October 3, 2012

    EA is familiar. FWIW – his (apparently) sincere responses on being asked if he believes that vaccines contain mind-control devices – something I read him express on his Facebook page and that he confirmed in response to a direct question at sciblogs – has me thinking his opposition to vaccines may lie outside of concerns about vaccines per se. (I’ll let readers draw their own conclusions.)

    You could ask him that over there, perhaps? (That page isn’t loading for me – server overloaded?)

  26. #26 Shay
    October 3, 2012

    The therapies that he recommends in his practice include: Body Work, Chiropractic, Cranial-Sacral Therapy, Eastern/Asian Medicine, Environmental Medicine, Essential Oils/Aromatherapy, Functional Medicine, Herbology, Western/Eastern Homeopathy, Naturopathy, Nutritional Medicine, Osteopathy, Western Medicine.

    I don’t see bleeding or cupping anywhere…

  27. #27 Grant
    October 4, 2012

    Probably not even worth mentioning, but I still can’t access ocregister.com – times-out every time.

  28. #28 Matt
    October 4, 2012

    With all due respect, the entire premise behind this post is idiotic and insulting.

    I mean seriously… “celebrity”? That is like trying to call Kim Kardashian an “actress”.

    Rob Schneider is not a celebrity… or at least not worthy of the title. He is also not a comedian. As Daniel Tosh so eloquently stated he isn’t actual a comedian, but rather he is simply Adam Sandler’s friend.

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