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Octosquid?

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A new squid has been caught near Hawaii — much is being made of the fact that it has eight arms instead of ten, but that doesn’t seem like such a big deal to me, since we have the example of Taningia danae with a similar arrangement. It’s more interesting that there is a preliminary assignment to the genus Mastigoteuthis, a curious and poorly understood group of cephalopods.

Comments

  1. #1 Christian Burnham
    July 5, 2007

    Squidulous!

  2. #2 Zeno
    July 5, 2007

    Eight legs? Then it must be a spider!

  3. #3 Chris Simeur
    July 5, 2007

    Sorry for a dumb question, but is the primary reason Mastigoteuthis is poorly understood dependent on the fact it resides in deep water?

  4. #4 llewelly
    July 6, 2007

    much is being made of the fact that it has eight arms instead of ten, but that doesn’t seem like such a big deal to me, since we have the example of Taningia danae with a similar arrangement.

    A smooth diversion that will doubtless prevent intrepid reporters from asking the dangerous questions that would lead to their discovery of the secret breeding program, and thereby, their untimely demise in the deeps of the Southern Ocean.

  5. #5 mgarelick
    July 6, 2007

    a curious and poorly understood group of cephalopods

    Sounds like the high school reunion I just went to.

  6. #6 forsen
    July 6, 2007

    Couldn’t it be that the holotype just happens to be a freak mutation, and not normative for the species as such? Guess we’ll never know until we find more of them…

  7. #7 mara
    July 6, 2007

    If this is evidence of interbreeding, how far out can they go? Could we, for example, push for a “Nauti-pus”?

    Perhaps not such a clever creature, but it’s name more than makes up for its intellectual deficiencies.

  8. #8 David Marjanovi?
    July 6, 2007

    If this is evidence of interbreeding

    Why should it be? I bet it’s simply another species of not-quite-conventional squid.

  9. #9 David Marjanovi?
    July 6, 2007

    If this is evidence of interbreeding

    Why should it be? I bet it’s simply another species of not-quite-conventional squid.

  10. #10 minimalist
    July 6, 2007

    Creationist response:

    “Oh yeah?!? Well if cephalopods evolved, how come we don’t see any half-squid/half-octop– …oh.”

  11. #11 bernarda
    July 6, 2007

    Here is a case of interbreeding, a zorse.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sngdjRdJ5Wg

  12. #12 mikmik
    July 6, 2007

    The octosquid was pulled to the surface, along with three rattail fish and half a dozen satellite jellyfish, and stayed alive for three days.
    What!? This story shouldn’t be about squid breeding with octopi, fish and rats getting it on ?! They don’t even breath the same air, water, you know! But now satellites are not safe even from jellyfish?!?! I don’t even want to go there over how they breath.
    Shit, I got to go, my cat is purring and rubbing up against my Doberman. See what you started!???!

  13. #13 Brownian
    July 6, 2007

    Couldn’t it be that the holotype just happens to be a freak mutation, and not normative for the species as such?

    No, because it’s already brought pleasure to the researchers (“When we first saw it, I was really delighted”, “We really enjoy these little mysteries that come up”) and we all know there are no such things as beneficial mutations.*

    *Keep it under your hat though; we have a world-wide conspiracy to maintain.

  14. #14 forsen
    July 6, 2007

    Indeed. *sigh* the Evil Atheist Conspiracy? can be one helluva drag to maintain at times… especially given all the evidence for Creation Science we have to hide away.

  15. #15 Chinchillazilla
    July 6, 2007

    Aww! He’s cute! (Or is it a she?)

  16. #16 Jan War
    July 9, 2007

    It’s quite amazing how fast the word gets out. We found the “octosquid” thirteen days ago and inquiries are now coming in from all over the world. I hate to burst anyone’s bubble, but it probably originally had ten tenticles and two likely were torn off while the specimen was in the intake screen. None the less, it is still an un-described species and may end up at the Smithsonian. We feel very strongly that more discoveries will be found in the near future. We have a very unique situation and have never fully capitalized on this sampling opportunity. Two years ago we discovered a new genus of fish that still has scientists buzzing. Aloha from Kona – Jan War @ NELHA

  17. #17 PZ Myers
    July 9, 2007

    Yeah, that’s kind of what I expected — the Mastigoteuthids have the usual 10 arms.

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