Pharyngula

It has just now sunk in that I’m holding plane tickets that I’ll be using next week to fly to … San Diego.

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I hope for everyone’s sakes that all is under control well before I get there … but isn’t it just like a bunch of infidels to schedule a meeting for the middle of an inferno?

Comments

  1. #1 Ichthyic
    October 23, 2007

    Let someone who really NEEDS a hotel room right about now have yours.

    that’s an excellent suggestion and bit of foresight, MikeM.

    at last count, over a thousand homes are either burned to the ground or near so.

    far more are inaccessible at the moment.

    …which leaves thousands of people effectively homeless. It’s not much of a stretch to think that hotels would be put upon to provide temporary lodging.

  2. #2 Ichthyic
    October 23, 2007

    I live in So Cal, and over the last few years, it seems like the state is literally burning to the ground.

    massive increase in size and number of destructive wildfires over the last ten years.

    third time in 5 years that the Governor has had to declare a state of emergency because of them.

    part of it is due to the massive tree die-offs because of bark-beetle infestations (the increase in numbers of bark-beetles has been tied, though I’m not sure how conclusively, to decreasing overwinter dieoffs because of global warming, btw). Top that with a multi-year drought situation, and massive increases in unrestricted housing developments in areas considered to be fire-prone, and I guess it shouldn’t be all that surprising. Still, I can’t recall a period within the last 40 years that had this many destructive wildfires over a relatively short time period.

    On the positive side, the lessons of Katrina evidently have not fallen on deaf ears with the politicos in CA. There have been massive efforts to make sure those displaced have places to go, resources available to them, etc.

    Only dealing with thousands instead of tens of thousands, but the response at least seems better structured.

  3. #3 Ichthyic
    October 23, 2007

    …I should add that while thousands have been DIRECTLY affected, hundreds of thousands have been at least temporarily evacuated.

    last count something like 360 thousand or so.

  4. #4 Ichthyic
    October 23, 2007

    btw, there are several other fires running rampant north of San Diego too. I figured I might as well add this to the thread, since there might be some chance others are looking for specific info.

    Here is a good place to get updates on the mountain areas, from locals running around emailing a local bulletin board:

    http://rimoftheworld.net/

    an employee for the water district up there (Running Springs) said this:

    The fire is jumping around due to the winds. It looks like a war zone here.

  5. #5 Ichthyic
    October 23, 2007

    I’m guessing it will be declared a Federal Disaster Area within the next week,

    too late, already has been.

  6. #6 Ichthyic
    October 23, 2007

    Shaving the point spread on sports competitions seems to be all the gods can accomplish, anyway.

    thousands of compulsive gamblers would probably disagree.

    (but they’re all going to hell, anyway, so who cares.)

    :p

  7. #7 Ichthyic
    October 24, 2007

    D`SOUZA: Well, I do think that people are recognizing that actions have consequences, and there`s a certain moral accountability to life. Religion provides a kind of basis for that. That`s the point of “What`s So Great About Christianity?”

    that’s some seriously fucked up circular reasoning right there.

  8. #8 foxfire
    October 24, 2007

    Regarding: D`SOUZA: Well, I do think that people are recognizing that actions have consequences, and there`s a certain moral accountability to life. Religion provides a kind of basis for that. That`s the point of “What`s So Great About Christianity?”

    Ichthyic commented

    that’s some seriously fucked up circular reasoning right there

    I’ll second that statement. Hopefully someone will point out to D’Sousa that one can arrive at the same conclusion (“actions have consequences”) by the fact that life continues to exist ala Darwinian theory.

    Ah well, it looks like the folks who deny global climate change get to live through a now accelerated aspect of it. Maybe that will help some adjust to the concept of “moral accountability to life”.

    Although it looks like the warming is being positioned as an “opportunity” to pillage and fight over new resources that push the inevitable out to a later date. My bet is that religion will provide some sort of basis for doing this. On a purely “moral” basis, of course.

  9. #9 Ichthyic
    October 24, 2007

    On a purely “moral” basis, of course.

    oh, of course.

    :p

    say… since Falwell claimed he could control the direction of hurricanes (he could “pray them away”), who is going to claim the mantle of being able to control wildfires?

    well, actually the hurricane control issue is open again as well.

    I mean seriously, claiming to be able to control natural disasters has got to have some serious marketing value to some enterprising up and coming evangelical out there.

  10. #10 Janine
    October 24, 2007

    D`SOUZA: Well, I do think that people are recognizing that actions have consequences, and there`s a certain moral accountability to life. Religion provides a kind of basis for that. That`s the point of “What`s So Great About Christianity?”

    Why worry about this fire being possibly helped out by global warming when it is so much easier to say the big sky daddy is pissed at loose morals. And I was just listening to the Dawkins/Lennox in which Lennox claims that christianity does not place a limit on knowledge. sigh…

    When you get down to it, it is not far removed from Robertson blaming atheist, gays and so forth for September 11.

  11. #11 David Marjanovi?
    October 24, 2007

    It would have helped if the irresponsible citizens of San Diego had voted to increase funding for their fire departments after the 2003 fires, but the republican leaning county turned it down. They live in an area prone to bad fires and spend less per capita on firefighting then any other major US city.

    :-o

    The stupid oxide! It stinks!

  12. #12 David Marjanovi?
    October 24, 2007

    It would have helped if the irresponsible citizens of San Diego had voted to increase funding for their fire departments after the 2003 fires, but the republican leaning county turned it down. They live in an area prone to bad fires and spend less per capita on firefighting then any other major US city.

    :-o

    The stupid oxide! It stinks!

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