A paltry creationist effort

I missed it, but Angry by Choice, Tangled Up in Blue Guy, and Greg Laden visited the Creation Science Fair yesterday, and Greg Laden already has a write-up. It was as tawdry as expected, with every poster lauding Gawd with bible verses. It was also very small.

There is another reason we go: To keep the creationists honest(ish). A few years ago, a group of us went to the fair and noted 20-something posters, and in that year the organizers, unaware of our presence, reported a much later number, thus lying about the level of participation in this event. When I pointed out on my blog that among all the photographs they took and we took one could not count any number of even close to that suggested by them, the organizers of the creationist science fair deleted all their photos from their web site and accused me of being a child abuser.

Total poster count this year: 23, in all age groups. See? That’s why it’s hard to get up the enthusiasm to drive 3½ hours to see little kids dressing up science with Jesus.


  1. #1 Steven Chang
    February 10, 2013

    Please write an article about:


  2. #2 Flo
    February 11, 2013

    How about you send him a mail (ONE mail) requesting a response rather than spamming every single thread with this? Plus, didn’t someone already say he rarely reads the comments on here?

  3. #3 Steven Chang
    February 11, 2013

    Can you tell me what his email address is?

  4. #4 David Marjanović
    Museum für Naturkunde, Berlin
    February 11, 2013

    Once again: go over to and then click on “contact”.

  5. #5 Steven Chang
    February 12, 2013

    Found it.

    I sent him an email.

  6. #6 Steven Chang
    February 14, 2013

    He isn’t responding.

  7. #7 Marc Stephens Is Insane
    February 14, 2013

    Steven has been spamming other Science Blogs with his quackery too.

    He wrote to Orac” This isn’t quackery!” and then included his spam link. Steven, PZ isn’t responding because your link is spam. What other “cancer cure” offers a “$100 refund if this doesn’t work for you!”? And the page says” oncologists have verified this works” but doesn’t provide any links to papers or research.

    Steven is making money off this scam. Please ignore him and his link.

  8. #8 smartalek
    02138, the most pretentious zipcode in the world
    February 14, 2013

    Angry, Tangled, and Mr Laden check out the fundies so we don’t have to.
    Brave & willing self-sacrifice for the greater good; deeply appreciated.
    Just one question: did it taste like chicken?

  9. #9 Arctodus23
    February 16, 2013

    You f&c0 @$$.

  10. #10 David Marjanović
    Museum für Naturkunde, Berlin
    February 16, 2013

    …So I finally followed Steven’s link.

    Oh for crying out loud.

    At least some flavonoids suppress blood vessel growth; suppressing blood vessel growth helps against cancer. The claims on the site that they are somehow lethally toxic for cancer cells but not other cells is a flat-out lie; there’s no way they can actually believe such nonsense. There simply isn’t anything that all cancer cells have in common only with each other that would be susceptible to flavonoids!

    Flavonoids are plentiful in berries, cocoa (yes, including chocolate) and red wine. To sell them “for only 6 dollars” is a scam. …And how in the vertical gene transfer can that site claim to be “non-commercial”!?!?! Is it the fact that they brazenly ask for donations!?!

    On quercetin specifically, simply read its Wikipedia article; scroll up to see where it occurs.

    The refund guarantee is, of course, also a scam; they make a lot of statements about what the flavonoids are supposed to do, and proving to their satisfaction that every single one of them didn’t work as advertised can hardly be possible!

    I’m glad there are at least laws that require the disclaimer linked to from the bottom of the page. Read it and think about what it means.

    …Oh, read the “special warning” that’s also linked to from the main page. Oh man. What a sudden outbreak of honesty. 🙂

    The site claims to be authored by the “Quercetin Advocacy Group”. Who is that? The site doesn’t say. Google finds this and a Facebook comment that says:

    “This could save your life!

    Learn about the cure for cancer.

    We want to inform you about a new way to treat cancer using simple, cheap and non-toxic supplements. This treatment protocol only uses compounds from fruits and vegetables and is very potent. If you don’t believe it then try it and if it doesn’t work we pay you $100. If it does work you must pay us $100.”

    But the same comment contains this claim: “Copyright © Quercetin advocacy group (please support our advocacy work – we are a non commercial advocacy group).” Yeah, right.

  11. #11 thistleofconsciousness
    February 23, 2013

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