Yes! And one of the top staff of that department just sent PZ Myers and the Secular Student Alliance a letter warning them to behave on their upcoming trip to the Creation Museum.

I hope every single one of those overtly homosexual visiting heathens is armed. With a Flip. I have one I can loan you if you are a local, just let me know.

Armbands will not be tolerated!!!!


  1. #1 Michael D. Barton, FCD
    July 29, 2009

    And ICR has a Department of Science Education!

  2. #2 Sigmund
    July 30, 2009

    I guess its like the gamekeeper in Jurassic Park.
    You have to be prepared for the unforseen events such as running out of coconuts and the animatronic T.Rex managing to wander into the post-Fall section!

  3. #3 Spiv
    July 30, 2009

    I must either be too young, or too old…what is a “Flip?”

  4. #4 RBH
    July 30, 2009

    When I visited that “museum” not long after it opened, security wore sidearms and the one I talked with was an off-duty sheriff’s deputy.

  5. #5 Jason Thibeault
    July 30, 2009

    When I first heard they were going to Zerg Rush the Creation(ists) Museum, my first thought was, “it’s a trap!!!”

    Now that I see this, my thoughts on the matter are not assuaged. If ever there was an opportunity for creationists to plant an agent provocateur, to paint atheists as evil, immoral, etc., this is it. If all it takes to be in violation of their “rules”, is someone wearing an armband that signifies that a person is part of the group, then they’re looking to homogenize the atheists’ look so it’s easier to pose as one of us and get us in trouble for something ridiculous.

  6. #6 Spiv
    July 30, 2009

    Full agreement JT. I have a hard time seeing this as anything more than a hefty donation to the very thing we’re against. And it will be even dumber when they boot everyone out 5 minutes in and refuse refunds. And claim the group was doing something unconscionable.

  7. #7 Art
    July 30, 2009

    Department of Public Safety. What do you think the odds are that they have a ‘Ministry of Truth’. An ‘Information Retrieval’ department would be ominous.

    Most of the Xian leaders seem to embrace lying for Jesus. A very few seem to go so far as Killing for Jesus but I suspect, more like hope, this is a very thin minority.

    On the other hand I think you might see quite a few willing to kidnap and ‘reeducate’ for Jesus. Doesn’t seem likely but it wouldn’t really surprise me to find the group herded down a dark corridor with cattle prods and bull whips into the back of a truck and hauled off to ‘Youth camp’ in the remote mountains. There they will be preached at, prayed over, exorcised, fed crackers that have had words said over them and forced to watch Jerry Falwell videos.

    Everyone going on the trip should have a GPS module implanted into their neck so we can find them and stage a rescue. I’m just saying we can’t trust those shifty Xians.

  8. #8 Katkinkate
    July 30, 2009

    Aaahh, I love the smell of paranoia in the morning. Although I agree it’s possible they’ll/someone could try something to pin on the secular group. It’s just as possible one of the secular group will be a prat and do something illicit to express his/her individuality and opinion and wreck it for everyone else. The religious don’t have a monopoly on idiocy and a group of 200+ people will be hard to control totally. I agree with the ‘lots of video cameras’ advice expressed on Pharyngula. To watch the visitors as well as Ham’s employees and to gather the funniest elements of the displays.

  9. #9 Greg Laden
    July 30, 2009

    Katkinkate is obviously a spy.

  10. #10 Katkinkate
    July 31, 2009

    🙂 Yep, spying from Australia. Part of Mr Ham’s homeguard. :() Wish I was going, actually. Sounds like fun.

  11. #11 PZ Myers
    August 1, 2009

    If they boot us out after 5 minutes, we win (as long as no one in our group has actually done anything unconscionable, and we will be taking steps to prevent ringers).

    We’ll be cautious. What everyone seems to forget is that the creationists are all sitting there worried because this could turn into a PR disaster for them, too — it is in their self-interest to also be cautious. Do not expect riots, do not anticipate mass arrests: a group of people will go through a very bad “museum” and laugh about it afterwards.

  12. #12 Lou FCD
    August 1, 2009

    Katkinkate observed,

    “The religious don’t have a monopoly on idiocy”.

    True, but it’s not for lack of trying.