People want to talk about sea ice, clearly. I still have nothing interesting to say about it, so instead, lets start off at KK‘s, who parrots the odd assertion that there are “Plenty of stories in media with just one scientist, and no counter view at all“. Which in turn is some septic whinging that he doesn’t have a clue about sea ice.
Ben Pile is so clueless that he thinks that, when “Laxon referred to measurements taken ‘this decade’”, he “presumed to mean since 2010″. Pile, in turn, is parroting Orlowski in the reliably unreliable El Rego, which says Listeners to Radio 4′s Today programme – and this includes much of the political elite – will have been alarmed to be told that “the Arctic could be ice-free on a summer’s day by the end of the decade”. Yet the evidence for this “trend” turns out to be drawn from less than two years worth of data.. El Rego knows this isn’t true – they know they’re bare-faced lying – and yet the story is still there, unmodified. And we know they know this because Laxon told them so in a comment to which the witless Orlowski replied.
As you’d expect, what Laxon meant was “the trends are derived by combining CryoSat-2 volume estimates with earlier (2003-2008) volume estimates from NASA’s ICESat mission [Kwok, JGR, 2009].” (He also says that if you “listen to my Today interview (http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9744000/9744378.stm)” he even says so, which makes Pile / Orlowski even more clueless if so).
But why is Kloor pushing these idiots? The answer to KK’s original “What to Do About the “Polluted” Climate Discourse?” is, at least in part, stop listening to idiots and stop promoting them as reasonable sources.
* More junk from Pile: another article where he, presumably deliberately, misrepresents the state of “prediction” os future sea ice: “As I discussed in the article, according to ‘scientists’, the Arctic would be ice-free next year.”