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Greg Laden reminds me that today's Science Friday will feature Ed Humes and Randy Olson talking about educating people about evolution—tune in!

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Son of a BITCH! Fifty weeks out of fifty-two I check to see what's going to be on Science Friday, and on one of the two when I don't check, it has to be this--right while I'm reading "Monkey Girl," and right after having seen "Flock of Dodos"! And in the midst of lively conversations about teaching evolution, to boot. I guess I can catch the podcast. Thanks for drawing this to my attention--I would kick myself if I missed it.

By Greg Peterson (not verified) on 23 Feb 2007 #permalink

So far, it's been a good discussion although I still think that Olson does set the scientists up to come off as being arrogant by simple virtue of talking with them over a poker game.

I do disgree with the claim that "intelligent design" can ever be a science, because its conclusion (God Did It) is untestable as it's a supernatural assertion.

By David Wilford (not verified) on 23 Feb 2007 #permalink

Well, as expected, it was a pretty good show. Flato holds no brief for the creationists.

We (UMN Anthro ... actually, me and some of the undergrads) are going to organize another screening of Flock of Dodos some time shortly after the DVD arrives ... (ordered today). Probably something small, but I'll post it.

I think we overloaded their server. But maybe this will result in some new members for them. I didn't know about this show nor about the podcasts.

The important point of the NPR discussion was the new tack by IDers[iots], using 'academic freedom' as a guise to get creationism into science classrooms. After a seminar and editorial in a local news paper a year ago, I still receive letters from one particular IDer. My standard first response (to all queries) is a list of about 30 books, review articles, and primary source research papers with the kindly delivered comment to master this material and then we can have an intelligent debate. About a month ago, I received the 'academic freedom' argument. My two page reply, summarized to one sentence: the argument raised is a red herring, the issues with regards to a science class are: relevance, accuracy, and integrity.

I subscribe to the Science Friday podcast, so if you want to get a back epidode, just get the podcast file from their web site.

By Curt Cameron (not verified) on 23 Feb 2007 #permalink