I was interviewed on a website over a month ago, and unfortunately John A. Davison and his infected polyp, VMartin, took over the comments there and went on and on in their ridiculous way.
They're still going at it. Even more absurdly, the droning duo are bragging on ISCID, in an awesome example of pretentious self-delusion:
658 comments and going strong again. Are there any brave souls here that are willing to join Martin and myself in this incredible demonstration that there are still those who believe that life in all its manifestations was an accident? Are Martin and myself the only ones who reject that by publicly challenging the two major exponents of that bizarre philosophy, Richard Dawkins and P.Z. Meyers, both of whom have remained silent? So it would seem. I am sure Martin agrees with me that we welcome any or all to join in this most fundamental of discussions at a venue which was arrogantly introduced by the author of the thread on which he is now afraid to speak.
Opportunities like this do not occur every day and they should not be ignored. They reveal a philosophy without foundation that deserves to be thoroughly exposed and One Blog A Day presents a rare opportunity to challenge the Darwinian fantasy and its two most vocal supporters in a reasonably neutral venue. Perhaps others can produce a response from the two most prominent atheist biologists of the present time. Martin and I can't seem to achieve that most desirable result.
Uh, "incredible demonstration"…of what? Somebody sure has an over-inflated opinion of his "most fundamental of discussions" … and obviously, I'm not afraid of them. I do have to apologize to the poor owner of the OneBlogADay site, though; I'm sorry a couple of parasites piggy-backed on my interview to infest you, but hey, here's a link and a little more traffic to make up for it, I hope.
Davison has made a revealing comment:
In the meantime Martin and I have scored another conquest by being banned at The Loom.
Someone cut their ISP cable, quick, and reward them with a complete victory over the whole of the internet.
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Good grief, and I thought Ian Spedding's pigheaded obstinacy was astonishing.
Thanks. This is the funniest page I've ever seen. JAD provides hours of comedy. He gives so much and asks for so little. All he needs is a blog page to provide near-unlimited material.
I like cake.
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius" (Christian Burnham 2007)
C'mon. JAD is wittier than The Onion.
I like cake!
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius" (Christian Burnham 2007)
I Love It So.
I have my own theory on life's origins. It completely smashes Davison's, godless randomness and ID. I have written about it many times, and neither you nor Dawkins has responded to it. But Davison has ignored it as well. Too bad you are afraid of it. I am not standing on the shoulders of giants. I am the giant.
Everyone will be sorry when I am dead.
However, I see no reason to reiterate it here.
I'll say that it's very difficult to argue science with someone who's:
1. Thirty years out of date in his research
2. Nuts.
Nonetheless, I've been doing what I can.
Vivan las tetas.
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Good grief, and I thought Ian Spedding's pigheaded obstinacy was astonishing.
IMO, the "pro-choice" thread jumped the shark when he proposed that we should first all agree that life begins at conception, and then argue about the details. But that is small potatoes compared to the wee-wee thread.
Whoa. That thing is still going?
woot, you have a much stronger stomach than I. Those two jerkin' each other off for 695 comments is more than I can take.
I will never understand why those clowns have such a hard time spelling your name correctly PZ. They seem so singularly obsessed with you that you would think they could get those kinds of details right, at least once in awhile.
Hmmm.. this raises a tough philosophical question: if a creationist blathers on a blog, and there's no-one around to hear it, what sound does it make?
Apparently, there are only two people left in the world who believe in evolution!
I like cake!
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius" (Christian Burnham 2007)
Hmm. Being ignored is proof of your greatness...
Wow! This has great implications.
I may be even more wonderful than I thought!
(I owe it all to my students.)
Zeno: and I thought you had practically disappeared! It seems there's still a tiny bit of you left.
I like cake!
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius" (Christian Burnham 2007)
Mr Burnham:
Your love of cake is an evolutionary response. Our primate ancestors had a very high carb diet, and when the last ice age came and carbs became more scarce the members with the best response to a low glucose diet (those that had evolved an insulin resistance) survived. Early man in Europe was the first to develop advanced farming techniques, so the selection pressure for insulin resistance was relaxed earlier. This lead to a lower incidence of diabetes in Europeans and, therefore, a proclivity for cake consumption.
Mr Burnham:
Your love of cake is an evolutionary response. Our primate ancestors had a very high carb diet, and when the last ice age came and carbs became more scarce the members with the best response to a low glucose diet (those that had evolved an insulin resistance) survived. Early man in Europe was the first to develop advanced farming techniques, so the selection pressure for insulin resistance was relaxed earlier. This lead to a lower incidence of diabetes in Europeans and, therefore, a proclivity for cake consumption.
Zach: I prefer to think that my ancestors evolved in a cake-rich world in which the cake-eating gene flourished.
I didn't realize someone would go all sciency on me regarding my particular fixation.
I like cake!
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius" (Christian Burnham 2007)
And Zach: I would send you a copy of my cake-eating manifesto, but it's too good for the American public. However, it will be published in Czech next year.
I like cake!
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius" (Christian Burnham 2007)
Zach: Really? Cool! Got some refs for that stuff about insulin resistance and human evo? I definitely want to know more.
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius"
Is this a joke, or do you possess the mother of all superiority complexes? (Describing yourself as "great" is analogous to prefixing a sentence with "I am not a racist but...", in that it is inevitably contradicted by everything that follows.)
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius"
Is this a joke, or do you possess the mother of all superiority complexes? (Describing yourself as "great" is analogous to prefixing a sentence with "I am not a racist but...", in that it is inevitably contradicted by everything that follows.)
Sorry about the double post. The server was slow to respond, and I got trigger happy with the "post" button.
It should be readily apparent that no one is in a better position to appreciate his epochal genius than Christian himself, so I always assumed that his tag-line was straightforward reportage.
But I like pie better than cake, so what do I know?
Hey, I'm European, too! Should I be eating more cake?
Cake. It's not just for breakfast any more.
If it's not chocolate (or at least brown) it is not cake.
Judging by the posts on the two links you gave, it seems obvious that Davison and VMartin have the longest running circle-jerk in the world.
Azkyroth wrote:
Hey! "Pigheaded obstinacy" is water off a duck's back but being likened to JAD is well beyond the pale!
On the subject of our love for cake, wasn't it Marie Antoinette who said, "Let them eat cake"?
Clearly, she was a pioneer in cake-loving-American rights.
"As Zapp Brannagan once said, 'Kif, I have made it with a woman. Inform the men.'" ~Stogoe
Looks to me like they do occur every day, no matter how much they should be ignored (I'd long forgotten those two droning creeps there).
Let me guess--they haven't said anything new whatsoever, probably very little different than the drivel Davison posted on PT.
I suppose it's a good thing when we have to notice JAD and Martin instead of some legal challenge to science somewhere.
Glen D
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"I shall always be remembered for being a whole letter better than Davison" Glen Davidson
Are we sure Davison isn't a bot? He seems to have exactly 2 modes of expression:
1) PZ Myers is a (insert insult here). Why won't he circle jerk me?
2) I don't have to answer any of your questions! Read my papers, you fool! I'm always right! I'm a genius! I declare myself victorious and thus it is so!
It was amusing at first, but it got old fairly quickly. Poor woot (and others), just trying to get a straight answer, and constantly being given the "I don't have to answer that, I'm a genius" brush-off.
As for vmartin, he either needs to up his meds or get off them completely.
Marie Antoinette: I believe she only said that in "A Tale of Two Cities" which if I recall correctly was a work of fiction, even though set in a historical event. Also, as I was taught when we read that book in H.S., "cake" was the term for the dough that was used to line the insides of the ovens for insulation. So to tell people to "eat cake" was not irony or sarcasm, but a grave insult like telling them to "eat bricks". Only thing is that I believe snopes has debunked this so "... grain of salt" and all. :-)
On Cake...
"I am the pasta of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst."
Clearly knowing that man can not survive on pasta alone, the Noodly one created the the animals and plants. He designed each to work perfectly together so that man would create cake. Thus, through us, cake is a creation of our doughy deity. Fortunately for man, our prime mover of pasta brings all his creations which believe in him, unto him to spend eternity with him. Thus if you believe in him you can eat your cake and have it too.
As for the other topic of this thread...
Anyone who's reads on-line forums can see them for what they are. Forum Trolls plan and simple.
The captain of the U.S.S. Blather is running on and on, and people are surprised?
JAD: "P.Z. Meyers, who remained silent throughout One Blog A Day is now doing his level best to make us look as bad as possible on his home turf at Pharyngula. Unfortunately for him, it is much too little and altogether too late."
No kidding it's too late! Nobody could do the job on Davison/Nosivad that he can't do better on himself! Hahahaha! It's hard to believe, isn't it?
Thank you, Dr. Myers for bringing up this post again.
This interview with Dr. Myers was initially posted in April. I am reposting it today for our readers due to its intensity in discussion and information in comments.
To all the debaters and commentators - I see a need for a neutral battleground, where we can have healthy debates on science topics ranging from evolution to devolution - anything that could be controversial. I am working on a site that facilitates this. Please keep checking back OneBlogADay.com for updates.
Thanks.
P.G.
I must admit that the juxtaposition of nuts and circle-jerks makes me feel a bit blue.
You are all wrong! The proof is in the pudding, of course. Or in the eating... Ah, now I am as confused as JAD.
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No... I am quite serious. I am great and I do like cake. PZ Mayers is scared of my greatness and refuses to host my cake-eating manifesto, but Mayers is just the lackey of Martha Stewart.
I like cake!
"I am but a man, though history shall know me as a giant. I'm not so smart, though others may think me a genius" (Christian Burnham 2007)
Cake was a pretty good band.
Checked the ISCID threads...
Nothing more than mutual pseudo-intellectual masterbation.
Having read further, I wonder if Davison thinks that the Black Knight won the battle in _Monty Python and the Holy Grail_. Davison seems like a rather unhinged version of said knight.
They really have no idea how nuts they look do they.
Pie!
John A. Davison fails the Turing Test. And that's sad.
TL wants to have his proof and eat it too.
Cake? For breakfast? Are you French?
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Impressive, but entirely predictable that they're still going on in reciprocal masturbation. May they stay on that thread till our galaxy and the Andromeda one collide in not quite 2 billion years, so that the rest of the universe will be saved from wasting lots and lots of time. I just hope One Blog a Day has unlimited harddisk space.
People are talking about masturbation like it's a bad thing. Why is that?
"Masturbation is sex with someone I love." --Woody Allen
Wow. Comically, pathetically grandiose, gratingly repetitive, painfully poorly written material. I'd refer to the almost childlike quality that prevails, except that doing so would be to libel all children...
It's just occured to me: JAD threads are the Andrew Lloyd Weber musicals of the net.
Oh. Yeah. Except for the large audience part. Guess that's where the metaphor breaks down.
I don't need to masturbate. I have VMartin for that.
I love it so!
Sylvester: Are we men, or are we mice?
Small Cat: I like cheese.
I can't be bothered with those two. I thought they were trolls but I've never seen a troll last so long. Therefore it must be true; they are completely nuts.
As for cake/pie/pudding: The unified dessert theory has it that pudding is the fundamental dessert since you can have both pudding-cake and pudding-pie.
I have a nice corollary to Don's unified dessert theory, which puts a bit of English on it.
In Britain, when one says "What's for pudding?", the answer can be cake or pie or ice cream or mousse or drowned baby (suet pudding -- those Brits have really clever names for things). Thus "pudding" is treated as a generic term for dessert (or "afters", as they also term it). So if we all speak with funny accents, then "pudding" truly becomes the fundamental dessert, even beyond the degree Don suggested.
Reminds me of a thread over at Fundies Say The Darndest Things (fstdt.com) -- it's over 950 posts long as I write this. The whole thing has something to do with some guy named Troy's "Four-Step Perfect Proof" of God. The author of the actual quote got into it, and he's been alternately ridiculed and taken apart over it for weeks on end, and yet continues to post claiming that no one can answer his argument (it's a fairly weak one based on the First Cause argument with some moral misinterpretation thrown in).
Nothing fazes this guy. He even bumped the thread back to the top after it had gone dormant for a week or so. I've taken to ridiculing him when I feel the need to feed the troll (I guess that's equivalent to throwing a bear plastic fish?).
The first time I clicked a link to a forum thread Davison had (ahem) taken over, I didn't get it. I was new to the online world of skepticism, and I didn't realize what a joke he was. I can't read even a full page of his conversations with himself, but the fact that everywhere he goes, he clears the room and then assumes that everyone left because they're afraid to confront his superhuman intelligence is funny. I think Will Ferrell could make a good bit out of it one day.
OK, I confess. VMartin is me when I forget to take my meds.
Are you it's because you forget to take your meds, Martin, or is it when you take your grandmother's by mistake?
I'll say that it's very difficult to argue science with someone who's:
1. Thirty years out of date in his research
2. Nuts.
Nonetheless, I've been doing what I can.
Vivan las tetas.
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I must admit that the juxtaposition of nuts and circle-jerks makes me feel a bit blue.
You are all wrong! The proof is in the pudding, of course. Or in the eating... Ah, now I am as confused as JAD.
Cake? For breakfast? Are you French?
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Impressive, but entirely predictable that they're still going on in reciprocal masturbation. May they stay on that thread till our galaxy and the Andromeda one collide in not quite 2 billion years, so that the rest of the universe will be saved from wasting lots and lots of time. I just hope One Blog a Day has unlimited harddisk space.
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