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Richard Tol, not content with a quiet and peaceful life, is having fun on wiki. He's trying to add a "criticism" section to the [[Bob Ward]] page, featuring the exciting adventures of... yes, you've guessed it, one R Tol: In 2014, Ward was accused by Professor [[Richard Tol]] of conducting a…
Time for some re-posting of everyone else's news, just to reassure regular readers after the Exxon stuff that I haven't gone over to the dork side. First though a link to more of the bleedin' obvious, Consensus on consensus: a synthesis of consensus estimates on human-caused global warming by Bart…
Sadly, a large percentage of Americans are under the impression that climate scientists do not agree on the reality of anthropogenic global warming (AGW). A lot of people are simply wrong about this. They think that there is a great deal of controversy among the scientists who study the Earth's…
Continuing the discussion with Richard Tol, Eli Rabett looks at how FUND models the costs of ecosystem damage and finds that it has a catastrophic loss of bio-diversity in 40 years -- 99% of species going extinct, but this only costs $250 per person because the only cost counted is that it makes…

I probably shouldn't have said more myself :-)

At least Richard seems to have acknowledged that the scientific literature does indeed indicate that a vast majority of publications indicate that humans are the dominant driver of warming over the last half century. So, his issue appears to only be with the method and his suggestion is that Cook et al. have failed to prove a consensus despite getting a result that is likely consistent with the strength of the consensus. Need I say more? :-)

By And Then There… (not verified) on 11 May 2014 #permalink

"OTOH, he isn’t a bozo."

No he is not, but he does do a good impression when the mood takes him.

"Gremlins." Srsly.

By Steve Bloom (not verified) on 11 May 2014 #permalink

Snicker away, notorious fella, as we dismantle your cult. Here is what you are defending, the indefensible:

http://s6.postimg.org/jb6qe15rl/Marcott_2013_Eye_Candy.jpg

Pure artifacts as cause for alarm! You are one of the world's biggest bozos since your not even making a fortune off this crap. No, no, you're an activist hack, caught red handed destroying the integrity of Wikipedia, and helping to promote junk science to terrify school kids. The cult you are in is evil.

By NikFromNYC (not verified) on 11 May 2014 #permalink

Tol? I'd rather read Stross, who seems to be thinking about the same issues with more hope:
The prospects of the Space and Freedom Party reconsidered in light of the crisis of 21st century capitalism

[Stross is enthusiatic, but I'm not sure he knows what he's talking about. Example: "What if we offer them tax breaks for investing in some really long-term project..." But Stross ought to know there's a giant pile of money sitting off-shore from America, merely because of corporation tax. If you want that brought home and invested, then you need to cut the corporation tax on it (of course, all that giant pile of money *is* invested, just not in America). As to colonising Venus, I'm baffled why anyone would want to live 50 km up: why come down from space at all? -W]

By Hank Roberts (not verified) on 11 May 2014 #permalink

NikFromNY, what's your PhD in again? Are they still handing out PhDs in Nonsense?

“OTOH, he isn’t a bozo.”

There's a cheap shot left hanging there.

Hoto, a not-ozob!

As for the point, the attractive force for the likes of Nik?

By Susan Anderson (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

In my in-progress analysis of the commentary accumulated in the SalbyStorm, NikFromNYC was one of the legions exhibiting pseudoskeptic behavior in instantly accepting Murry Salby's tale, and I thank all of them for offering the data.

But NIkFromNYC must be thanked especially for this comment at WUWT, one of my favorites among the whole 2000:

' NikFromNYC says:
July 9, 2013 at 2:21 am
He is Rosa Parks. He is Timothy Leary. He is Murry Salby.'

[But not Einstein? Or Galileo? -W]

By John Mashey (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

he sits at the back of the bus, stoned, talking gibberish...

By Fergus Brown (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

Fergus: thanks. In context of other remarks @ WUWT, I don;t think that was the intended meaning, but your interpretation is certainly a combination I hadn't considered.

This seemed to be an attempt to generate an innovative comment along lines of "hero Salby" (very popular), Galileo (very popular), martyrdom, attacks by thugs, Marxists, Soviet Australia, etc ...but were already being used in the WUWT comments preceding this one.

Anyway, unlike many repetitive chantings of the same memes, this was at least imaginative.

By John Mashey (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

John, the phrase by NicFrom NYC that jumped out at me was: "You are one of the world’s biggest bozos since your [sic] not even making a fortune off this crap. Over and over again I see this linkage between money (anti-tax, anti-government, etc.) and pseudoskepticism. Yet at the same time he reveals himself as a follower of Mammon, NicFromNYC can say (with an apparently straight face): "The cult you are in is evil."

By Kevin O'Neill (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

WMC: Well, NikFromNYC didn't mention them, but among the various comments (WUWT, NOVA, BISHOPHILL, etc) were:

Einstein of climate science 2
fine science hero or hero 2
foremost climate scientist
ground breaking 3
landmark work
maverick like Nobel winner 19
one of the world's most brilliant climate scientists
outstanding scientist
profoundly original thinker

and as martyr:
Copernicus 4
Galileo 17
Giordano Bruno
heresy 8
inquisition 3
knife or knive 6
pilloried 2
Siberia 6
threatens the religion

To pick a few. Parks & Leary were unique, though.

By John Mashey (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

Kevin
cult in SlabyStorm: as applied to mainstream:

dogmatic cult psyientists
Jim Jones cult 2
climate cult 2
cult of climatology
cult science of climatology climate church
dogmatic cult

By John Mashey (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

"If you want that brought home and invested, then you need to cut the corporation tax on it"

That's a little too quick. Other options exist, perhaps. One might start by examining the legal framework under which that money piled up offshore.

[Hardly quick. The money has been piling up for years -W]

By Steve Bloom (not verified) on 12 May 2014 #permalink

Don't feed the Tols...

Kevin: Over and over again I see this linkage between money (anti-tax, anti-government, etc.) and pseudoskepticism.
As evidenced by the WattMeter.

Watt's trending today?

By Douglas Bostrom (not verified) on 14 May 2014 #permalink