Richard Tol and the 97% consensus – again! Need I say more?
* Richard Tol is being oppressed!
* Big City Lib on the GWPF (P3) and BCL himself
* The necessity of TOBS - Moyhu
* Flurry Of Scientists, Recent Peer-Reviewed Papers, Warning Of Approaching Little Ice Age - NTZ
* Tol creates new IPCC wiki – anyone can take part
* Richard Tol Stakes Himself on a Hill, Ethon Takes a Nibble - Eli, of course.
* Richard Tol Versus Richard Tol On The 97% Scientific Consensus - at Real Sceptic.
* “Gremlins” caused errors in climate change paper showing gains from global warming - Retraction Watch; Tracking retractions as a window into the scientific process; follow-up by Eli.
* More Gremlins than you can shake a stick at.
* Brandon Shollenberger isn't happy with Tol either. Which would normally be good for Tol; possibly not in this case.
* Richard Tol’s 97% Scientific Consensus Gremlins
* In the Spirit of Deep Climate by Eli.
* Let’s all just get rich!
I probably shouldn't have said more myself :-)
At least Richard seems to have acknowledged that the scientific literature does indeed indicate that a vast majority of publications indicate that humans are the dominant driver of warming over the last half century. So, his issue appears to only be with the method and his suggestion is that Cook et al. have failed to prove a consensus despite getting a result that is likely consistent with the strength of the consensus. Need I say more? :-)
"OTOH, he isn’t a bozo."
No he is not, but he does do a good impression when the mood takes him.
Snicker away, notorious fella, as we dismantle your cult. Here is what you are defending, the indefensible:
Pure artifacts as cause for alarm! You are one of the world's biggest bozos since your not even making a fortune off this crap. No, no, you're an activist hack, caught red handed destroying the integrity of Wikipedia, and helping to promote junk science to terrify school kids. The cult you are in is evil.
Tol? I'd rather read Stross, who seems to be thinking about the same issues with more hope:
The prospects of the Space and Freedom Party reconsidered in light of the crisis of 21st century capitalism
[Stross is enthusiatic, but I'm not sure he knows what he's talking about. Example: "What if we offer them tax breaks for investing in some really long-term project..." But Stross ought to know there's a giant pile of money sitting off-shore from America, merely because of corporation tax. If you want that brought home and invested, then you need to cut the corporation tax on it (of course, all that giant pile of money *is* invested, just not in America). As to colonising Venus, I'm baffled why anyone would want to live 50 km up: why come down from space at all? -W]
NikFromNY, what's your PhD in again? Are they still handing out PhDs in Nonsense?
“OTOH, he isn’t a bozo.”
There's a cheap shot left hanging there.
Hoto, a not-ozob!
As for the point, the attractive force for the likes of Nik?
In my in-progress analysis of the commentary accumulated in the SalbyStorm, NikFromNYC was one of the legions exhibiting pseudoskeptic behavior in instantly accepting Murry Salby's tale, and I thank all of them for offering the data.
But NIkFromNYC must be thanked especially for this comment at WUWT, one of my favorites among the whole 2000:
' NikFromNYC says:
July 9, 2013 at 2:21 am
He is Rosa Parks. He is Timothy Leary. He is Murry Salby.'
[But not Einstein? Or Galileo? -W]
he sits at the back of the bus, stoned, talking gibberish...
Fergus: thanks. In context of other remarks @ WUWT, I don;t think that was the intended meaning, but your interpretation is certainly a combination I hadn't considered.
This seemed to be an attempt to generate an innovative comment along lines of "hero Salby" (very popular), Galileo (very popular), martyrdom, attacks by thugs, Marxists, Soviet Australia, etc ...but were already being used in the WUWT comments preceding this one.
Anyway, unlike many repetitive chantings of the same memes, this was at least imaginative.
John, the phrase by NicFrom NYC that jumped out at me was: "You are one of the world’s biggest bozos since your [sic] not even making a fortune off this crap. Over and over again I see this linkage between money (anti-tax, anti-government, etc.) and pseudoskepticism. Yet at the same time he reveals himself as a follower of Mammon, NicFromNYC can say (with an apparently straight face): "The cult you are in is evil."
WMC: Well, NikFromNYC didn't mention them, but among the various comments (WUWT, NOVA, BISHOPHILL, etc) were:
Einstein of climate science 2
fine science hero or hero 2
foremost climate scientist
ground breaking 3
maverick like Nobel winner 19
one of the world's most brilliant climate scientists
profoundly original thinker
and as martyr:
knife or knive 6
threatens the religion
To pick a few. Parks & Leary were unique, though.
Pure artifacts as cause for alarm!
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
cult in SlabyStorm: as applied to mainstream:
dogmatic cult psyientists
Jim Jones cult 2
climate cult 2
cult of climatology
cult science of climatology climate church
"If you want that brought home and invested, then you need to cut the corporation tax on it"
That's a little too quick. Other options exist, perhaps. One might start by examining the legal framework under which that money piled up offshore.
[Hardly quick. The money has been piling up for years -W]
Don't feed the Tols...
Kevin: Over and over again I see this linkage between money (anti-tax, anti-government, etc.) and pseudoskepticism.
As evidenced by the WattMeter.
Watt's trending today?
This is rather damning
http://andrewgelman.com/2014/05/27/whole-fleet-gremlins-looking-careful… This is rather damning
[I've fixed your link, I believe. That link is (now) under the "refs" -W]
Answer: surprisingly often