Well, that's quite a vigorous discussion we've all been having these past few days over proto-feminist d00ds, no? I am grateful to you all for your participation and for the many good suggestions made to help proto-feminist d00ds along the path of growth. In case some of you missed it, Comrade Physioprof offered his own handy-dandy guide for d00dly commenters over at Isis's place.
With all the interest in these two posts, I'm thinking that maybe we need to spend a little more time talking to/with/for the d00dly d00ds. Herewith, I am proposing Zuska's Outreach Project For D00dly D00ds. Specifically, I'm going to suggest that those of you who are interested, get a copy of Allan Johnson's The Gender Knot and read along with me. We'll take a chapter a week and discuss here on blog for everyone's pleasure and enlightenment. Discussion of first chapter to commence on Wednesday, May 27, which for you U.S. folks is the Wednesday after Memorial Day weekend. Now you have something to read while grilling the burgers during the cookout.
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Zuska, do you also recommend this for undereducated femly fems? Are there additional books you would recommend? (I managed to miss the women's studies classes in college, though I did go to a girl's prep school.)
I'm also an undereducated feminist gal, and I started reading the few pages available and it seems like a good read.
Now, I just have to figure out where my student card is so I can take out a copy from my library.
Z, you have a "who needs to study men?" category! Sign me up. I don't know enough about them already. It's very equality of you to show some luv for the d00dly d00ds.
I love book clubs. Fantastic idea! The book is a nice beginning for proto-types to a discussion about privilege and Patriarchy. w00t! excellent choice.
Assuming my local bookshops carry it, I'll be following.
JustaTech, I think women can learn from the book as well as men, patriarchy affects all of us, and we all have a stake in unraveling the gender knot.
Deatkin, you can order it at amazon if your local bookstore doesn't have it.
I'm particularly interested in the "what can men do about it" question, since several of my d00dly friends often say they feel helpless to, well, help. Looking forward to hearing more about this.
What a great idea! I'm another under-educated feminist - I don't know how I missed a womens' studies course in college...oh right, it was only open to womens' studies majors (WTF!?!?). Anyway, I'm really looking forward to this!
I look forward to it.
- Another "undereducated femly fem"
I am so there! I recently read The Gender Knot for the first time (I missed those Women's Studies courses in undergrad too). Like LostMarbles, I started with the few pages available in the Google preview, then bought a cheap used copy at abebooks dot com. It is a very good read for femly fems too.
Okay, if it's not too hard, could you do a quick summary each time you discuss a chapter? Maybe a short paragraph? Although, I could probably figure out what it's about from the post.
I doubt I could get the book in English in Rehovot, or in the local language for that matter since it's not in the Institute library. Wouldn't even know where to look. Didn't you spend a year in this city (according to a previous post from a long time ago)? The English language book situation is dire.
Forgot to mention that it costs a lot of money to order international and ship it to here. And the post office charges you even more afterwards as I learned to great chagrin. That's why... Sorry, I can't afford to buy it from the States.
Anonymous, I'll do the best I can to summarize the chapters as we go along.
I did spend time in Rehovat, but only a month, not a year. It was a wonderful experience - I loved it there and learned so much, both in and out of the lab. Everyone welcomed me warmly and did so much to make my visit a great experience.
Coming in late, but this looks like something I should follow. Not sure why everyone seems to think that Women's studies is one of those things every women in academia needs to take. I'm sorry, but I only had one non-engineering elective in my engineering degree, and I took French. If I could do it over, I'd choose philosophy. Women's studies I can learn about for free on the internet and at the library.
Likewise on the coming in late, but I'll participate as much as I can.