Do the Japanese count some murders as suicides?

Cristina Yu wrote:

You didn't mention Japan. Japan's such a safe place that they're murder rate
is almost as low as the murder rate for Americans of Japanese descent. Almost,
but not quite.

Wrong. Kleck says this on page 189 of "Point Blank", but he looked up
the wrong number (2.45) for the Japanese homicide rate.

Unless you consider self-murder, that is, in which case,
it's rather high. Their suicide is higher than our murder rate plus our
suicide rate combined.

Not any more (though it used to be true):

1990 rates per 100k population from WHO Statistical Yearbook
        homicide   suicide
US          10.1      12.6
Japan        0.6      16.4

(Interestingly, the male suicide rates in Japan and the US were
identical (20.4))

Not to mention that their commonest form of violent death is for a parent
to knife the kids, then (if the parent is male) the wife, then make an
attempt (successful or not) on him/herself. (If hubby is having a hard
time with his career, it is EXPECTED that his wife will unburden him in
this manner --- and that she'll succeed when she goes for herself.)

In the US we call that a "murder-suicide" and count one suicide (or
suicide attempt) and N-1 murders. In Japan they call it "multiple
suicide" or "family suicide" and count N suicides.

Untrue. The WHO breaks deaths down by age. In 1990 there were 47
child (under 14) suicides in Japan. That's a rate of 0.2 per 100k
children. (For comparison the US rate was 0.5.)

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