You're living in a fictional fantasy created where you know everything, and the reason why it looks like you don't is because there's a global conpsiracy to hide the "truth".
Oh, maybe that fakery is where you picked trends from 1998 and used them to claim the ground truth is wrong then picked from 1979 to claim that both satellites agree with each other and the ground truth, but don't mention the cherry pick earlier.
both RSS and UAH closely agree with the unadjusted global mean of Hadcrut 3
That should read "both adjusted RSS and adjusted UAH closely agree with the unadjusted global mean of Hadcrut 3".
Some people can't help themselves when it comes to picking and choosing their own fakery at the bakery.
Btw, pointing out how stupidly gullible you are doesn't mean I'm hysterical. I wonder if you try that name out on your women friends, if you have any that is.
OK, so all you've got apart from a world-wide conspiracy theory is a comparison of apples, oranges, blueberries and bananas (near-global, land, part of global and 95th percentile) and cherry-picked data (part of global).
“both adjusted RSS and adjusted UAH closely agree with the unadjusted global mean of Hadcrut 3″.
Since all data that comes from satellites is adjusted that is a meaningless statement but as Churchill said, you have stumbled upon the truth and hurried away as though it were an embarrassment.
The fact that both satellites [however the data were arrived at] agree with the unadjusted global mean awa millions of radiosonde balloons should give even a Doltoid a clue that they are to be believed rather than the Fakery at the Bakery.
Stating the truth might be redundant (as long as everyone is already aware of it) but that doesn't mean it is meaningless.
At least we are now all agreed that there is no necessary problem with data being adjusted, e.g. RSS, UAH, BEST, NOAA, HADCRUT4 (I presume), GISTEMP, Karl, etc.
The fact that both satellites [however the data were arrived at] agree
agree with the unadjusted global mean awa millions of radiosonde balloons
The might agree with the radiosonde balloons somewhere in the atmosphere but AFAIK, the radiosonde balloons have to agree with the surface thermometer next to them at the moment they are released. Wouldn't be very good thermometers otherwise!
Jeff Harvey,
"Yes, AGW on its own may drive humans towards extinction, as it unravels food webs and drives ecological communities beyond a point which they can sustain themselves and provide humans with a range of supporting and regulating ecosystem services that permit us to exist and persist. "
What a load of nonsense. The AGW you imagine is just Mother Nature operating her "Business as Usual". Yes, climate is changing as it always has and always will.
If temperatures increase, most animals including humans will benefit. Lower temperatures on the other hand are more dangerous The Mount Toba eruption 77,000 years ago struck during a glaciation and rendered several of humanity's closest relatives extinct.
DNA evidence suggests that "Homo Sapiens" was reduced to 2,000 breeding pairs following the Mount Toba eruption. Back then a little "Global Warming" would have been more than welcome.
Jeff,
If you are wondering why there are one million times more human breeding pairs today that there were 77,000 years ago you can blame two things:
1. The current inter-glacial.
2, The Industrial revolution.
Marxists understand that they can replace Capitalism with a command economy. Today the best example of this approach is North Korea with its Juche System (Korean Stalinism).
"Yes, GC, we are living in a magical age"
Fiction, dumbo.
You're living in a fictional fantasy created where you know everything, and the reason why it looks like you don't is because there's a global conpsiracy to hide the "truth".
"That’s not data, CoN, that’s climate reno."
Only because it doesn't say what you want it to.
What IS climate reno. is your UAH, whose trend is massively fudged in its latest beta.
"CoN, both RSS and UAH closely agree with the unadjusted global mean of Hadcrut 3 for as far back as the satellites go:"
Then why claim that the surface data is wrong????
And they all agree when you use the hadcrut4 global mean:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1979/trend:5/plot/hadcrut3vgl…
indeed the agreement is actually better between UAH and surface temperatures if you use the adjusted values for surface.
"You mean as opposed to Doltoid fakery at the bakery, jiff?"
What fakery, retardo?
This fakery, stupid:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1979/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/fr…
And I'm still waiting for that UAH 1.47c change, you windbag.
"This fakery, stupid:"
WHAT fakery?
The fakery of YOU including the 95% upper confidence limit against UAH 0% confidence mean, as if they were comparable?
"And I’m still waiting for that UAH 1.47c change, you windbag."
Already given to you, you ignorant moron.
If you'd ever bothered to read the answers people gave you, you wouldn't be ignorant now.
Oh, maybe that fakery is where you picked trends from 1998 and used them to claim the ground truth is wrong then picked from 1979 to claim that both satellites agree with each other and the ground truth, but don't mention the cherry pick earlier.
That should read "both adjusted RSS and adjusted UAH closely agree with the unadjusted global mean of Hadcrut 3".
Some people can't help themselves when it comes to picking and choosing their own fakery at the bakery.
Btw, pointing out how stupidly gullible you are doesn't mean I'm hysterical. I wonder if you try that name out on your women friends, if you have any that is.
sd:
OK, so all you've got apart from a world-wide conspiracy theory is a comparison of apples, oranges, blueberries and bananas (near-global, land, part of global and 95th percentile) and cherry-picked data (part of global).
Fruit loops have nothing on you.
“both adjusted RSS and adjusted UAH closely agree with the unadjusted global mean of Hadcrut 3″.
Since all data that comes from satellites is adjusted that is a meaningless statement but as Churchill said, you have stumbled upon the truth and hurried away as though it were an embarrassment.
The fact that both satellites [however the data were arrived at] agree with the unadjusted global mean awa millions of radiosonde balloons should give even a Doltoid a clue that they are to be believed rather than the Fakery at the Bakery.
Stating the truth might be redundant (as long as everyone is already aware of it) but that doesn't mean it is meaningless.
At least we are now all agreed that there is no necessary problem with data being adjusted, e.g. RSS, UAH, BEST, NOAA, HADCRUT4 (I presume), GISTEMP, Karl, etc.
You mean both these satellites, the ones you choose above? Whatever happened to beta UAH 6.0?
The might agree with the radiosonde balloons somewhere in the atmosphere but AFAIK, the radiosonde balloons have to agree with the surface thermometer next to them at the moment they are released. Wouldn't be very good thermometers otherwise!
CoN the desperate waffler.
NASA and Jay Zwally have just shown you how Fakery at the Bakery eventually pans out.
You need to seriously consider NV and hang sceptical before your own arse gets likewise burnt.
Jeff Harvey,
"Yes, AGW on its own may drive humans towards extinction, as it unravels food webs and drives ecological communities beyond a point which they can sustain themselves and provide humans with a range of supporting and regulating ecosystem services that permit us to exist and persist. "
What a load of nonsense. The AGW you imagine is just Mother Nature operating her "Business as Usual". Yes, climate is changing as it always has and always will.
If temperatures increase, most animals including humans will benefit. Lower temperatures on the other hand are more dangerous The Mount Toba eruption 77,000 years ago struck during a glaciation and rendered several of humanity's closest relatives extinct.
DNA evidence suggests that "Homo Sapiens" was reduced to 2,000 breeding pairs following the Mount Toba eruption. Back then a little "Global Warming" would have been more than welcome.
hat would
Jeff,
If you are wondering why there are one million times more human breeding pairs today that there were 77,000 years ago you can blame two things:
1. The current inter-glacial.
2, The Industrial revolution.
Marxists understand that they can replace Capitalism with a command economy. Today the best example of this approach is North Korea with its Juche System (Korean Stalinism).
Simply by crossing a line on a map (the border between north and south Korea) you can reduce your income by a factor of 16.
http://www.gallopingcamel.info/freedom.html
The People's Republic of China came close to emulating North Korea's economic collapse:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/01/20/145360447/the-secret-document…
Jeff,
For most of human history the GDP divided by the population has averaged $600.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/10/19/poverty-is-not-a-nat…
Since 1820 wealth has exploded to the point that GDP per capita is $6,000.
You eco-loonies could reverse that progress and turn the clock back to the 18th century. At least 80% of the current human population would die.
Thank God you don't have the power to implement "Carbon Mitigation".