Just a reminder for anyone who is interested in listening, I'll be appearing on the Jim Babka show, Culture Repair, at 5 pm eastern time to debate the 14th amendment with Herb Titus, former dean of the Regent University Law School. To listen online, click here. High quality streaming is available with a subscription, and lower grade streaming is available for free on channels 1 and 2.
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Listened to it. Great performance. Both of you were at your best.
Of course, I side with you. I don't really *get* the distinction that Titus raised between rights of "persons" v. rights of "citizens."
Titus was correct that under the vision of the Framers of the original Constitution, they believed that natural rights would better and properly be secured by the states instead of the Federal government.
But the Civil War repudiated that vision of balance of power. Jefferson was wrong in that regard (that the states would better secure natural rights as opposed to the federal government).