Uncommon Descent Evolves

Dembski's home for wayward sycophants is now becoming Dembski and O'Leary's home for wayward sycophants. Denyse O'Leary is taking over DaveScot's role, and I expect she'll do it in more ways than one. Anyone who has read O'Leary's ID writings knows that they are delightfully wacky. DaveScot is stepping down as irrational inquisitor in chief. Let's hope that O'Leary can replace the pure entertainment value of his heavy-handed absurdity.

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I think Denyse is plenty dumb enough to step into DaveScot's extra-small size shoes! What an ugly little "menage a trois", which I expect will be a "merde a trois".

Heh. DaveScott has a snit and quits. What a surprise. He had the luxury of writing the article and then appending his comments directly to someone's comments whereas, the commenter did not have that luxury. Now, the playing field is leveled and he doesn't like it. Typical of bullies - they whine the minute the rules that allowed him to bully people are changed. Waaaahhhh!

Dave, glad to see you go you blithering idiot!

Commenting is what I like doing here. Moderating is a pain that I can do without. If appending my comments directly onto others is too much to ask in return for all the time spent moderating then I'm going to quit moderating. Someone else can do it and I'll just be a regular user once more.

Did I miss something? Was MonkeyBoy publicly scolded by Dembski about slapping his ignorant and brutish comments on the end of multitude of other comments or was this a private thing? It seems that some sort of action was taken by some one (I assume Dembski) to tone down his participation as an overly ambitious and egotistical moderator. One can only wonder if all of the spectacular blunders he's been the author of recently actually got to Billy D.

A few weeks ago, Dembski posted a not-so-thinly veiled message about the need to keep the posts substantive and non-snarky. Clearly, that was aimed right at DaveScot. Since then, he's been pretty muted, having had his nose whacked with a rolled up newspaper. This was inevitable.

Yes... with a self-confessed autodict (should be autodick) and a self-professed "IQ of 150+", DaveSpringerScott should be able to invent his own blog...Uncommonly Dense.

BTW - Dr. Free Ride - Your Menage a Troll reading is better than what I wrote!

Uncommon Descent "Evolves?"

Man, you're too kind.

This is spectacular. DaveScot actually got mad because Dembski asked him to moderate comments normally and then right his responses in the post like everyone else. Imagine if Ed went back and responded to messages by editing the original poster's message, dividing it up, not in the way the commenter intended, to respond to specific points mostly in a dismissive and/or condescending manner. Even people without a conscious like Dembski wouldn't put up with that. He even gave DaveScot an out to stop doing it by not-so-accurately claiming that he did it himself (I don't read every post on the blog, but I can recall Dembski doing that one time to my knowledge) and that it therefore wasn't directed at DaveScot. Hilarious, I hope O'Leary is half as entertaining.

Hilarious, I hope O'Leary is half as entertaining.

She should be good for a laugh or two, although I can't see her matching GreatScot is sheer ego powered stupidity.

There's still plenty of chuckles from the peanut gallery otherwise. Like the guy who thinks the ACLU is going to try to get DaveScot to remove his Marine hat photo from his blog; or GilDodgen who just can't figure out why those "Darwinists" haven't admitted their theory is dead...I know we've been saying that for 150 years, but we really really mean it this time!!!

Then there's the guy who doesn't want ID to replace "Darwinism", because all scientific theories get replaced and therefor so would ID! Good thinking.

"Imagine if Ed went back and responded to messages by editing the original poster's message, dividing it up, not in the way the commenter intended, to respond to specific points mostly in a dismissive and/or condescending manner."

Or imagine if Panda's Thumb disemvowelled comments willy-nilly just to mock the poster--oh wait, they actually do that, you don't have to imagine it.

No, they don't Mr. Heddle. You quite well know the reason why.

Besides, disemvowellment isn't necessary to mock you....

Shouldn't have let him get away with the bait-and-switch.

Wonder if the appearance of references to DaveScot's antics in Dembski's Wikipedia article and the one for Teach The Controversy weighed in Bill's decision?

Sow not in anger for you will reap in misery, DaveScot.

By uncommonjustdesserts (not verified) on 18 Jul 2006 #permalink

disemvowell? Disemvowellment?

w-w th-t w--ld pr-b-bly(?) h-rt. - m--n t- h-v- -ll -f y(?)--r v-w-lls r-m-v-d? Tr-ly p--nf-ll!

Personally I don't think that would be necessary with your posts mister Heddle ... b-t th-t's j-st - g--ss. ;o)

By dogmeatIB (not verified) on 18 Jul 2006 #permalink

I don't think the fact that he edited people's comments to put his own in was a big deal. You could still tell who said what, so it's just a matter of format. It was the inconsistency with which he did it. With the Panda's Thumb, we have 25 different contributors, each of whom controls the content of their own posts and the comments attached to them, and we simply don't all agree on how to handle them. You can expect inconsistency there. But DaveScot kept making grand pronouncements of what he was and wasn't going to allow, he deleted comments (and posts) based solely on what made him look bad, and he treated even those on his own side like dirt. Even the ID fans on the blog thought he did a lousy job. He's one of those guys who runs on pure ego, and those are the last kind of people you put in charge of anything.

Or imagine if Panda's Thumb disemvowelled comments willy-nilly...

Shame on you, David, I thought you knew better. If I recall correctly, that only happened to two or three of comments within a couple of days of each other. "Willy-nilly" is, let's just say, being a little liberal with the truth.

I disagree, Ed. When you break apart someone's comment and insert your responses to it you destroy the context with which the commenter intended. It ceases to be their comment and becomes your interpretation of their comment. Yet in this case their name is still attached to it as though it were their own.

It's not as bad as deliberately (or because of sloppy fact-checking) misquoting someone, but there is something creepily invasive about it. It would be like DaveScot breaking into your home, scarfing down the leftovers you were looking forward to having for dinner, and leaving a giant turd in the toilet. You come home to a ruined dinner and an inexplicable turd.

It's just rude.

If anybody would like to see the thread that got Dave Scot banned, JanieBelle has it posted on her blog:

http://udoj.blogspot.com/2006/07/in-which-janie-gets-banned.html

I would guess that comment #9, where Denyse O'Leary first speaks and Dave appends a suggestion that she do some Googling before going off half cocked had something to do with his being dumped. He also appended to her comment #25 and #40.

But Wesley Elsberry wonders if it wasn't this post:

"Don't you mean "all your girlfriends"? Oops. But really, once you've had a few wives of other men yelling at you in the throes of passion "I want to have your baby" then you'll understand. It's a little disconcerting at first but you get used to it after a while. It's a dirty job but someone has to make the world a smarter place. Some choose to teach children so they'll be smarter and some choose to make them smarter via genetics. It's all good. -ds"

Given the moralistic bent of both Dembski and O'Leary, I think that's the straw that broke the camel's back.

But really, once you've had a few wives of other men yelling at you in the throes of passion "I want to have your baby" then you'll understand.

great. Thanks a lot djmullen. I'm not going to be able to eat for a few days.

It's a dirty job but someone has to make the world a smarter place.

I really think there is only one way DaveScot could do this, but I'm not suguesting he should.

Sorry to post so soon after but this is hilarious. DaveScot commenting on Janibelle's blog speak of Denyse O'Leary (I assume).

I hate to disappoint the church burnin' ebola boys but I won't be commenting on UD in the future. I just told the smarmy Canadian cross dresser to go fuck itself in an email. It would have banned me in any case as it's nowhere near as cool as Bill Dembski. The stick up its disgusting ass could make a redwood feel inadequate. I'm going to go ahead and forgive Bill for this monumental brainfart as he's going through some long term bad shit on the homefront with a sick child. I felt bad about bailing out on him at a time like this but he forced my hand. No big deal. I had a few extra hours today to finish rebuilding the carbs on my jetboat (it's back together and running great) and throw a ball in the water for my puppy. He's napping at my feet on the houseboat at the moment. I think we'll go out for a swim and then take the jetboat for a longer validation run.

P.S. if my dog was as ugly as the Canadian cross dresser I'd shave his ass and teach him to walk backwards.

I dunno Rev. That's gotta be some guy pretending to be DaveScot. Doesn't it?

In the first place, Dembski putting Davescot in charge of his own dying blog was a colossal blunder. Bill should have just fallen on his sword as he had originally planned. Now Denyse O'Leary? Rah rah gimme an I gimme a D go team....

She'll be plenty entertaining. And isn't that what ID is all about anyway?

As to that being someone pretending to be DaveScot:

If you look at his earlier posts on that site, Janie told him to pick an avatar. He came back with two God, Country, Corps hats. Link. This was on July 17th, according to the blog comment time stamp.

Then, the next day, July 18th, Dave posts this to UD. So first the possible DaveScot picks his avatar and then the confirmed DaveScot says that he picked an avatar. Looks like solid confirmation that this is the real DaveScot.

Heddle is sniffing glue if he thinks the moderation policy at Uncommonly Dense is remotely like that at Panda's Thumb. Dembski himself described his comment moderation as "ruthless".