The unPeople People

Dan Everett, linguist who was the subject of a profile in The New Yorker a month ago, gave a talk to Edge, and the transcript is online (the video is still in progress from what I can see). There is a lot of detail there, and most of it is pretty unbelievable to me. I've commented in the past on their supposed immunity to religion. Everett says some more:

I sat with a Pirahã once and he said, what does your god do? What does he do? And I said, well, he made the stars, and he made the Earth. And I asked, what do you say? He said, well, you know, nobody made these things, they just always were here. They have no concept of God. They have individual spirits, but they believe that they have seen these spirits, and they believe they see them regularly. In fact, when you look into it, these aren't sort of half-invisible spirits that they're seeing, they just take on the shape of things in the environment. They'll call a jaguar a spirit, or a tree a spirit, depending on the kinds of properties that it has. "Spirit" doesn't really mean for them what it means for us, and everything they say they have to evaluate empirically. This is what I hadn't been doing, and this challenged the faith that I thought I had, to the extent that I realized that it wasn't honest for me to continue to claim to believe these things when I realized how little investigation I had done into the nature of the things I claimed to believe.

This interests me, because 10 years back there was a book, Faces in the Clouds, which argued that religion emerges from the anthropomorphizing elements of nature. It seems here that the Pirahã do have the basic building blocks for the generation of a supernatural system, they simply don't manifest all the necessary preconditions (e.g., engaging in extensive theorizing beyond the first order perception and suspicion).

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My first instinct reading this stuff (and other "facts" about the Piraha) is to doubt the data.

Naturally, I have no way of forwarding counter-claims, but I wonder how well these facts are established.