The Egnor challenge, day 3

Two days ago, I posted a challenge to Dr. Egnor and clarified that challenge yesterday.

Thus far, there has been no answer.

I'm still waiting.

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You're waiting for Godot, I'm afraid. Do any of these loonies actually meet the challenges of the people they know can throttle them? Egnor might be an IDiot, but he's (probably) not stupid.

I do hope you give this up after a while. Think about how long Randi has been waiting for Sylvia Browne? Imagine if HE did a post every day!

By anonimouse (not verified) on 19 Mar 2007 #permalink

Question - how did you make Dr. Egnor aware of the challenge? Does he even know you & your blog exist? While I am sure that you would solidly trounce Dr. Egnor in a real debate, I always wonder how many challenges like this never go beyond the webpage they are written on and the author says "See? They aren't responding because they can't! I win! Muwahaha!" But the challengee never knew about the challenge(r).

Egnor clearly looks at Panda's Thumb and ScienceBlogs. He's directly answered MarkCC, for one thing.

Of course, if any of my readers want to make sure he really is aware of it, please don't let me stop you. ;-)

I do hope you give this up after a while. Think about how long Randi has been waiting for Sylvia Browne? Imagine if HE did a post every day!

Maybe you should set up a clock, Orac!

On another Egnorant tack, Carl Zimmer once again proves to be our friend, linking to the Panther database, which, after a few clicks to get to the people behind it, gives us the following quote on this page:

"One of the group's greatest interests is in how evolutionary modeling can shed light on the molecular causes of human disease. For example, we and others have shown that most of the known mutations causing Mendelian disease in humans occur at evolutionarily conserved positions in proteins: in other words, patterns of negative selection (i.e. selection against changes at these positions) apparent from comparing related genes (in the same or in other species) reveal essential sites in proteins that, if mutated, cause human disease. We have recently shown that detailed evolutionary modeling, including signals of positive as well as negative selection, can significantly improve our predictions for both Mendelian and even complex disease."

I don't understand what all the fuss about Egg Nog is. It's nasty tasting stuff, but it's season is only for a short period of time. Just ignore it and pretty soon it will be time for lemonade and apple pie. Just be more patient!

I followed the link in the post to "evolution news", and, interestingly, at the bottom of the page the first sentence reads "The misreporting of the evolution issue is one key reason for this site."

So, it seems there is at least some factual content there.

Maybe a more practical solution would be to put a counter in a side-bar along the lines of:

"xxx days since I challenged Dr Egnor to support his claim, and still no response"

Orac said: "Any suggestions for a counter?"

Yeah, an odometer-type counter turned by a bacterial flagellum. :-D