Diving deeper into the slime

After the Virginia Tech shootings, as you may recall, a lot of people started using the shootings as a convenient excuse to start pontificating about their favorite cause or to attack their most hated enemy, be it secularism or even vaccines. In fact, politicians, pundits, and just plain annoying whackjobs are blaming the rampage on so many different hobbyhorses, that there's even a blogger keeping a running tally, which is up to 72 so far.

A few days ago, I thought I had uncovered the lowest of the low, where a white nationalist besmirched the name of one of the heroes of that horrible day, Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor who had held the door of his classroom against the gunman, Cho Seung-Hui, allowing his students to jump out of the classroom window until Seung-Hui finally shot him multiple times through the door, accusing him of "protecting the ultimate symbol of a degenerate multicultural-promoting institution, where Jewish professors like himself reign supreme, indoctrinating moldable young student minds with filthy Jew propaganda." I thought that was the lowest of the low.

Forgive me, dear readers, but I can't help myself now that I've learned that there is a competitor for the title of lowest of the low when it comes to blaming the shooting on various causes that the competitor hates. This time around, it's Bill White, Commander of the American National Socialist Workers' Party, who (surprise! surprise!) blames it all on race-mixing:

Looks like this girl at the center of the Virginia Tech massacre was not just race mixing with the Korean -- the Korean killed her for race mixing with a Negro.

Too funny.

So far, I can't feel sorry for four of the thirty three dead. As the stories come out, I, unfortunately, except this total to increase.

Rmily whats-her-name: race-mixer
Her nigger boyfriend: race-mixer
Her Korean boyfriend: race-mixer, mass killer
Liviu Livescu: phony Holocaust survivor

Anyone else involved that Southwest Virginia is better off without?

And don't take this the wrong way -- any innocents killed I feel badly for. I just wonder how many innocents were really involved. Abstractly, I wonder how many people are ever innocent ...

I need a shower again. Sadly, I don't think that all the water in Lake Superior could cleanse the filth that is the mind of Bill White dripping its slime on me.

I realize that some of you may be unhappy that I dragged you down to see just how vile some people's thought processes are, but I think it's important to see how these people thing and expose their real beliefs to a wide audience to show just how despicable they are.

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While the Virginia shootings were tragic, they could have been prevented. The Virginia Tech shootings were caused by space law** which led Cho to kill so many people. Remember, Cho was Asian. The United States is by far the leader in space exploration, with Asian nations far behind. This is partly because space law is unfair to nations developing new space programs. Furthermore, the shootings were at Virginia Tech, which probably sent multiple graduates to NASA. If we had given more assistance to nations developing new space programs, we could have prevented Virginia Tech.

**Since so many people are blaming so many things for the Virginia Tech shootings, including vaccines and evolution, I decided to come up with an argument blaming the Virginia Tech shootings on whichever concept came up when I clicked the "Random Article" button on Wikipedia.

why is being crazy no longer a good reason for doing something crazy? It seems that if you claim that someone was crazy then you're a tool of the government which likes to blame the terrible things it does on individual, isolated crazy people. But if you can come up with a carefully thought out reason (no matter how crazy the reasoning) then you're not falling for the party line and you're somehow more intellectual than the rest of us.

By PlanetaryGear (not verified) on 28 Apr 2007 #permalink

Seeking some sort of social explanation for the aberrant actions of a single individual is fundamentally irrational--you simply can't draw any useful conclusions from outliers.

So it's not surprising that it brings out the crazies.

He cares so much about the issue, he can't even be bothered to look up Emily Hilscher's last name, and/or get the spelling of Lviu Librescu's name right. How much do you want to bet he doesn't think much of the humanity of women in general, too?

By Interrobang (not verified) on 28 Apr 2007 #permalink

I don't think I "blame" anything on race-mixing. I just don't feel bad some race mixers and Holocaust liars got killed.

I blame the shooting on the nihilism of modernity and disturbed immigrants.

Oh -- and as to the lowest of the low bit -- fuck you.

Your modernism -- the modernism where ignorant loudmouths get to spout off and call their betters "low" -- creates Chos every day. Its just a matter of time before one comes and finishes of your loved ones, your community and you.

Instead of white trashing around and spewing where you don't know, maybe you should look at how modernity strips people of a sense of identity and community and think about solutions to that. Oh wait, that would require thinking and reflection and possibly saying things unpopular with the crowd -- things loud mouths don't like to do. ;-D

When I applied for security clearences at a large company I worked for there was one question that was on each form (it may have also been on the form to apply for employment there).

The question was something to the effect if I was part of a group that advocated overthrowing the US government. This was when the Cold War was still chillin' ... so it was geared towards communists.

But I bet anyone who owns a website called "overthrow" would be scrutinized very closely by any employer.

By the way, I recently read David Neiwert's book _In God's Country_ ( http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/ ). My general feeling was that those racists in the militia movement were not stellar citizens of their communities, and often not that bright. One Washington State militia group was arrested enmass when they were being instructed by one guy one various tactics. He then told them he could teach them how to get out of handcuffs. They all put one hand on, and then he clicked the other hand behind their backs. He then brought out his FBI badge and told them they were all under arrest.

That is truly disgusting. To think that a person deserves to die because he or she isn't constrained by racial hatred in choice of companions is a truly, truly foul point of view. Certainly Mr. White, your finely tuned ability to hate other human beings is also responsible for your denial of a historic event that still has survivors and witnesses. Pray tell, have you made a list of all the sins of the Trade Towers victims as well, or do you not need to because that was faked, too?

"Anyone else involved that Southwest Virginia is better off without?"
I think the world would be much better off without people like the author of this sentence.

It used to give me bitter amusement to imagine the chagrin of these racial supremacists and separatists when DNA analysis becomes routine and genetic markers enable scientists to tell an individual his or her heritage: "Your markers are approximately 50% from those predominant in western Europe, 25% consistent with those predominant in Africa, 12.5% with northern Asia..." blah, blah, blah. No one is going to find out that he is "pure" anything. How upset they'll be!

Then I realized: They'll just say that Jew scientists are faking the results. (It's not as though any of them are smart enough to verify things themselves.)

Bill White:

I don't think I "blame" anything on race-mixing.

This is what you said:

Looks like this girl at the center of the Virginia Tech massacre was not just race mixing with the Korean -- the Korean killed her for race mixing with a Negro.

Sounds like you're blaming at least one of the killings on "race mixing".

And regardless of whether your blame it on "race mixing" or "just don't feel bad" about it, it's still an ignorant and frankly despicable way to think.

A Garth Ennis quote comes to mind: "Why is it that the 'champions' of the white race are always the worst examples of it?"

^^D'oh! I forgot to close that blockquote tag. The second quote should end at the word "Negro".

Your modernism -- the modernism where ignorant loudmouths get to spout off and call their betters "low" -- creates Chos every day.

If the appellation ("lowest of the low") fits, you get to wear it.

And fit it does.

Sometimes there is pith in humor. Not trying to make fun of tragedy, but my favorite X Files show had Peter Boyle as a man who can foresee how people are going to die, and finds himself in the midst of a serial killer's rampage. Somehow the killer learns that someone has this power and seeks out Boyle's character.

Killer: "Why am I doing this?"
Boyle: "Because you're a homicidal maniac."

Wow Bill,

From this particular perspective your complete lack of an understanding of the irony that is your every sentence is hilarious! Ignorant loudmouth indeed :D

By PLanetaryGear (not verified) on 29 Apr 2007 #permalink

Its just a matter of time before one comes and finishes of your loved ones, your community and you.

"Before one"? What one? Has he looked at the history of say, serial killers in the US? Mass murderers?

How did you even find out about this deranged Bill White? He doesn't even have commenters. I'm all for free speech in the Blagosphere, despite the sludge it contains, but this man needs help. I wouldn't want him to be a part of my community, for sure, whether he is white or purple.

I know I'm saying nothing new for most of the people here, but I sure hope that Bill White sees this.

There is a certain brand of poisonous insecurity out there which has a good go at securing status in a group by making out (and in many cases believing deeply, since there is a lot of emotional need riding on this) that the person involved is automatically "good" by membership in that group, period, no other effort required. This usually involves membership in the group being determined by birth, no other effort required, as well -- after all, someone this insecure wants to be part of something by default, automatically. The really bad bit is that it rests on making out that members of other groups (like non-whites, non-Christians, liberals, take your pick) are automatically "bad", of course, and the demarcation between good us and bad other must be maintained.

Bill White's comment about "community" fits this perfectly; in minds like his, his group is better than it has any right to claim, and "community" is preserved by maintaining an automatic "us" and an automatic "them", and hey, of course anyone who blurs that line is bad....

Bill, the vast majority of people here are smart enough to realise that human is human, and that people are to be judged as individuals. That doesn't mean that no-one is bad or stupid -- you're going for that title yourself -- just that no-one is bad or stupid or crazy purely as a function of where they're born and who they're born to, just as no-one is automatically good or smart for that kind of reason. Your world would be a much better place, and you would be a much better person, if you were able to face it without the kind of fear that makes you hide behind membership of a group and claim that the death of anyone outside that narrow little classification wasn't worth mourning.

By Luna_the_cat (not verified) on 29 Apr 2007 #permalink

"Before violence spills on to ground, it simmers in the inner corridors of human mind.

Desire for violence with all its hideousness and tyranny is born in the crevice of our dark thoughts and emotional alleyways populated by egocentric desires, perceived disenfranchisement and reckless disregard for human suffering.

Even when people are not fighting on a visible battleground, they are battling it out silently, within their homes, with their own wives and husbands and kids and friends. Outer violence is just an amplified version of inner battles and dissatisfactions. Any person taking to violence and killings must have lost the inner peace.

A recent case in point is Virginia Tech University where a student butchered students and Profs. What a terrible waste of life and potential! And how did it come to that? Why would a student resort to such a thing where blood is spilt like water and countless lives are snuffed and others maimed psychologically?

Does it say something about the times we live in or is it a reflection of our general attitude toward life--if what you want is not gettable through patience, it is ok to use force? Either way, the answers are disturbing and disheartening. Are we doing something to drive people over edge?"

Parmjit Singh, PhD

Just to point out, the vast majority of mass shootings, as well as most terrorist acts committed in the US such as abortion clinic bombings, the Atlanta Olympics attempt, and the Oklahoma City incident, are perpetrated by "pure" white men. Perhaps the problem is not enough race mixing?

Visit the website of the United States Secret Service's National Threat Assessment Center and read the final report of the Safe Schools Initiative. While they did not develop a profile in the usual sense, their descriptions of the shooters behavior leading up to the shoot is chilling and Cho clearly fits quite well. Two of the authors were on 60 Minutes a week ago.