Mandrake, Have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?

Last week, the city council of Brevard, N.C, a community just over a couple of hills from here that's known for its vibrant musical culture, voted to remove the fluoride they've been adding to the public water supply for last 27 years. The decision was prompted by one councillor who had "had read studies that suggested fluoride might create health problems such as bone decay, memory loss and thyroid problems." But does the science support such a decision?

Brevard Council, as any responsible council would do, asked its top administrative official, city manager Joe Albright, to look into the matter. According to the Hendersonville Times-News, he reported back thusly:

"I researched this and found there was a plethora of information and studies about the pros and cons of water fluoridation," Albright said. "After reviewing the data, I think council felt there was enough uncertainty as it relates to the possible detrimental effects and that's why they unanimously made the decision to remove fluoride from the city's water."

Now, Brevard wouldn't be the first municipality to reverse course on fluoridation despite the lack of a consensus from the scientific community that adding fluoride to drinking water does more harm than good. Apparently, the uncertainty regarding the negative effects is sufficient for many elected officials to disregard the acknowledged benefits, specifically reduced rates of cavities. But what surprised me in this case was the unanimous decision. Usually, in such cases, you'd expect to find at least one member of council in opposition.

There are plenty of websites devoted to the alleged evils of fluoridation, some that seem inspired more by Dr. Strangelove than genuine doctors. (For those who haven't seen the funniest film in history, and therefore don't get the title of this post, please read this excerpt from the script now before you get a day older). And there are the usual equivocal and less trustworthy sites like Wikipedia. But you knew that would be the case.

Still, even consulting the latest official word from the Centers for Disease Control leaves the novice researcher fails to produce a convincing testament as to the wisdom of fluoridation, but the CDC does cite a National Research Council study on alleged links between the practice and bone cancer that concludes, somewhat reassuringly, that

the overall evidence on osteosarcoma to be tentative and mixed, and no recommendations were made related to this health concern for revising current allowable fluoride levels in drinking water. The report stated that the results of the larger Harvard study, once published, may provide an important and useful addition to the weight of scientific evidence regarding this condition.

A summary document from the CDC is a bit more definitive, concluding that "Overall, no clear association between water fluoridation and incidence or mortality of bone cancers, thyroid cancer or all cancers was found."

But the summary was also chock-a-block full of caveats regarding the dearth of decent studies to which city councils can turn for guidance on the question:

the studies examining other possible negative effects provide insufficient evidence on any particular outcome to permit confident conclusions. Further research in these areas needs to be of a much higher quality and should address and use appropriate methods to control for confounding factors...

Given the level of interest surrounding the issue of public water fluoridation, it is surprising to find that little high quality research has been undertaken...

The research evidence is of insufficient quality to allow confident statements about other potential harms or whether there is an impact on social inequalities.

So it is perhaps not all that surprising that Brevard City Council chose to get rid of fluoride. On the one hand, there is really no good evidence that it's a bad thing, but clearly there hasn't been enough research at all.

Add to that the news that drinking water fluoridation has been banned in several European countries, and it's enough to give your average councillor who expects science to have all the answers a case of the creeps. Still, given the uncontested benefit of flouridation, I wouldn't have voted to remove fluoride. The science may be uncertain, but until there's more convincing data on the harm it might be causing, making a change would seem unwarranted.

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I've listened to the howls for decades. The puzzling part is that Stannous fluoride is used for the municipal additive while the "natural" source is claimed to be CaF2 (Fluorite mineral) in early studies.
Why not replace the hated "chemicals" with a a stack pipe of "natural mineral" fluorite?
Part of the anger with fluoridation in the '60s was because it is "socialized medicine", according to some. But it promotes the General Welfare, said others.
"Not proved".

Why drinking water, though, where people who are sceptical can't avoid it? Isn't flouridated toothpaste, and (as we got in school in Sweden) occasional flour tablets or flour mouth wash enough?

I've also heard dentists claim that 1) fluoridated water is beneficial to teeth even after they've formed, which seems rather doubtful, and 2) there's no change in bone composition, as though the fluoride can magically deposit itself in teeth from the bloodstream but not the rest of the calcium deposits in the body.

Given the poor standards of the science originally used to justify adding fluoride to water, and the lack of proper health standards at the time, I don't see why stopping the practice is particularly controversial.

By Caledonian (not verified) on 24 Jul 2007 #permalink

Caledonian: I don't know what the precise motivation is in the US, but the benefit comes from having the teeth surfaces exposed to the flouride in the mouth cavity, not from ingesting it and getting it through the blood. Thus we had regular rinses with flouride in school along with flouride tablets to chew (but not swallow).

I know - but that is not what various dentists I've spoken to have claimed.

I think they were merely repeating the points they had been 'educated' with. That doesn't exactly lend itself to confidence in their claims of benefits.

By Caledonian (not verified) on 24 Jul 2007 #permalink

Still, given the uncontested benefit of flouridation, I wouldn't have voted to remove fluoride.

But are the benefits uncontested? It's not a matter that I've looked at particularly closely, but I seem to recall some debate as to the effectiveness of flouridated drinking water in reducing dental caries. And even if there is a clear benefit, there is still the question of whether it is the most cost-effective option.

There is also the question of whether it is ethically acceptable to use the water system for public health interventions...

Inside vs. outside.
Teeth, according to the report I read long ago, are about the mineral hardness of feldspar. The report claimed that that if our teeth were a sort of ur-feldspar we wouldn't have any at all after a few decades if it weren't for the composition of saliva. The report suggested (with scant data) that we have a sort of crystallographic salival repair system going on that can be hijacked by "tartar deposit" bacteria that have been with us for a long time. I suggest that fluoridation might be considered an "inside" (original formation)factor and an "outside" one also. Investigation is needed!
Investigator: We might find fossil traces of the opportunistic microorganism involved with "tartar" growth and gingivitis.

Ingesting fluoride is like swallowing polish to paint your toenails.

According to the CDC fluoride ingestion confers risks but no benefits. Fluoride's beneficial effects are topical or when fluoride touches teeth. But its risks occur from swallowing it, such as dental and skeletal fluorosis.

The CDC also says that the amount of fluoride emerging in saliva to bathe the teeth is too low to be of any topical value.

Besides the fluoride chemicals used by over 91% of U.S. fluoridating communities are silicofluorides or hydrofluosilicic acid - impure waste products of phosphate fertilizer manufacturing which are allowed to contain trace amounts of lead, arsenic, mercury and other contaminants by the National Sanitation Foundation - the body which regulates those things. See their fluoride fact sheet here:
http://www.nsf.org/business/water_distribution/pdf/NSF_Fact_Sheet.pdf

Modern science shows that fluoridation is ineffective at reducing tooth decay, harmful to health and a waste of tax dollars

It took 50 years for the smoking/cancer link to emerge from the scientific literature into popular acceptance. Science is screaming for our attention now. It's telling us to stop water fluoridation.

for more info
Fluoridation 101
http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

http://www.fluorideaction.net