Is the Discovery Channel Store Run By Sexist Pigs?

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Math is hard!

Math is hard! (For girls?)

I remember a classic Cathy cartoon where she was shopping for a toy for her friend's child, and the clerk wanted to know if it was a boy (GI Joe) or girl (Barbie). Cathy had a tantrum about it, finishing up with "It's a person! I want a toy for a baby person!" The clerk said, "Okay, how about a dinosaur?" "Great," said Cathy.

And the clerk brought out the "cowboy-soldier-astronaut dinosaur" T-Rex and the "princess-ballerina-bride dinosaur" brontosaurus.

(And I wondered how wrong it was the bronosaurus was actually kind of pleasing, with its crown, tutu, and veil...)

Wow. That's really all I can say. It's shocking that the Discovery Channel is that egregiously sexist.

Oh well, I never watch that shitty channel anyway. I wish TechTV wasn't completely butt-reamed by Comcast.

This is just so many kinds of wrong. And unfortunately, many companies selling science products for kids (or adults!) do go down this route. I attribute part of the issue to the actual buyers and/or marketing people often being non-scientists themselves.

Un-be-freaking-lievable.

Yeppers...just like when I was kid (and I ALWAYS wanted that Microscope and Erector Set!)

Kind of egregious for a Science webpage.

I have a five year-old-girl and a four-year-old girl, and all they want for christmas is Barbie/Princess/Ballerina girlie-stuff. They'd _love_ a nail salon. Where did I go wrong?

I looked at the list myself. Did you notice that the list is for "Best Sellers"? The actual lists contain the same Items. It is the customer that determines the best seller lists, not Discovery Channel. All Discovery Channel do was show us the stereotyping that still exists in our society.

I just had a baby girl in April and I'm already dreading her wanting & receiving "girl" toys. I did a post just a month or so ago about it, but seeing this warrants a follow up post.

I'm about to have a child this coming spring - I don't know the gender yet, but I was thinking 'Dinosaurs, building blocks, and lots n lots of cuddily things. I have wondered (and I'll admit slightly hoped) if it's a girl, how will I manage setting an example that women make damn fine scientists, engineers, doctors, etc - but for the love of goodness stay away from LAWYERS! Ah well - best way to nurture is to teach them to make their own decisions. Gender roles, while appearing strictly set in this culture, are really pretty fluid. I just want a kid who's happy, confident, and doesn't get suckered into believing what others want them to believe.

Horrifying and funny at the same time. I like Mike's commentary, tho it is easier to laugh when you have boys (which I do).

I did actually go to the website, and (as one of the other feedbackers pointed out) the list is sorted by best sellers -- see Boys8-12 vs Girls8-12, you can resort the list by price low to high, and there isn't much difference.

Still, some discovery channel employee decided that the jello bracelets were for girls and the Miami Vice Daytona Spider model kit is for boys -- so I'm not letting them off the hook.

These links lead to pages where the view is of "bestsellers." If you look at the bottom of the page for girls, you'll see the forensics and fingerprints labs as well.

It seems it's not just the Discovery Channel that is guilty of stereotyping girls' and boys' interests, but parents.

I think this was presented in a hyped-up, hyperbolic way. Here's some other comments:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/45244/#comments

Yeah sex-role stereotyping is alive and well. I've got one of each, so I see a bit from each side. I cringed when my daughter got into Barbie dolls. Marie Curie may not have played with Jelloopdeloops, but my daughter would probably like them. Despite that, it's my daughter, not my son, who wants to be a scientist. She wants to go into physics.

It's not just the girls' toys/boys' toys. Check out what passes for science for girls!

I'm confused about how the Discovery Channel knows which items are the best sellers for girls and which items are the best sellers for boys. Do they actually keep track of gift recipients?

Lawyers are ok. Especially those of us who work for research universities...representing scientists.

"These links lead to pages where the view is of "bestsellers." If you look at the bottom of the page for girls, you'll see the forensics and fingerprints labs as well."
The thing is, Discovery doesn't keep track of which toys are bought for boys and which for girls. So how do they decide that the pottery wheel is the girls' "best seller" and the forensics lab is the boys'?

These links lead to pages where the view is of "bestsellers." If you look at the bottom of the page for girls, you'll see the forensics and fingerprints labs as well.

This statement is mostly true. The list of toys is actually independent of what you choose in the "sort by" box.

It seems it's not just the Discovery Channel that is guilty of stereotyping girls' and boys' interests, but parents.

This statement is not. After comparing the boys' and girls' lists for both 8-12 and 5-7, I'm fairly confident in saying that what happens is this: discovery.com, probably relying on what the manufacturers say, classifies each toy into an age range and optionally a gender. From this, they make up a list of "boys" toys and "girls" toys, with some overlap for those toys that were not given a gender classification. Then, those pages sort the lists. As evidence for this, any time you find two items on both lists, they will be in the same order. For example: #4 and #5 for 5-7 yr. old boys are #11 and #12 for 5-7 yr. old girls, even though that puts a 6" by 6" remote controlled spider as the #11 gift for 5-7 yr. old girls. The #2 gift for 5-7 yr. old boys never shows up anywhere on the girls' list.

What this shows is that the pottery wheel outsells the forensics kit, which I guess I find mildly surprising, and that there are a bunch of cutesy-girl things that are much, much cheaper than the $80 forensics kit, and so outsell it as well. It also shows that the ultimate pottery wheel has been classified as for girls only. (I'm puzzled that the $80 pottery wheel sells better than the $25 "Knit Kit", but they may be doing some strange accounting there)

I dont understand how one could claim that Discoverey is attempting to discriminate against girls or is somehow attempting to pigoen hole them. The forensics kit in question appears on page 1 of the best selling gifts for BOTH boys and girls ages 8-12. I dont see how that could be interpreted as steering girls(or the parents buying the gifts) away from science-oriented gifts for girls. They are offered to both. In fact, many of the same science related gifts appear in both the boys and girls sections. The real difference is that you will find very very few crafts-related suggestions for boys. So, one could argue that Discoverey is really offering a much wider selection to girls, while pigeon holing boys.
The site doesnt appear to favor any particular item selection for boys or girls. And showing which items are best sellers only reveals the preferences of the buyers, not a bias on the part of Discoverey.

Agreed Oswald.

However, we must ultimately remember, we must never discuss the fact that boys and girls often like different things.

Because acknowledging differences in the sexes is apparently sexist.

You are all tools...well...except for Oswald and csrstr....

...just like when I was kid (and I ALWAYS wanted that Microscope and Erector

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