Wells and Cordova get everything wrong

Afarensis takes on both Sal Cordova and Jonathan Wells on the subject of anthropology. Would you believe that those two creationist frauds are talking out of their hats and are readily spotted as dishonest kooks when they discuss anything in which their reader has any expertise? I know, I was so surprised myself.

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Would you believe that those two creationist frauds are talking out of their hats
I think you're being overly kind, as I'd have them talking out of something a bit lower on their anatomies. ;)

Something else that is round and inappropriate.

Would you believe that those two creationist frauds are talking out of their hats
PZ

I think you're being overly kind, as I'd have them talking out of something a bit lower on their anatomies. ;)
Krystalline Apostate

If their heads are where i think they are, pz was not too far off the mark.

Post a link, man! I want to see the Sal/Wells smackdown!

j and eewolf - Thank you - I am now thinking of a Jim Carey in certain scene in Ace Ventura, Pet Detective... and if I were going to debate either of these two clowns, I would show the scene to the crowd while they were talking.

If their heads are where i think they are, pz was not too far off the mark.

So that is what ass-hat means!

By Tracy P. Hamilton (not verified) on 30 Mar 2007 #permalink

So that is what ass-hat means!

Oh. :-)

By David Marjanović (not verified) on 30 Mar 2007 #permalink

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By Cocky Bastard (not verified) on 30 Mar 2007 #permalink

The funny part is, when fraud occurs in mainstream science it's exposed and denounced *by scientists*, generally pretty quickly. Meanwhile, fraudulent claims from Creationists are not only almost never exposed or denounced by other Creationists, but are generally repeated by Creationists not limited to the perpetrators of the initial fraud on many occasions and for a very long time after being exposed and denounced *by scientists*.

By the way, what does this have to do with elephants in spring?

In other news, I see that at uncommondisdain Denyse O'Leary is now admitting what the folks around here had long suspected: the Johnsonist mob consider the age of the earth to be more a political issue than anything else.

You can be damn sure there is no fraud in mainstream science.

Creationist/ID Fraud = a for-profit industry with constant stockholder demand for maximum financial growth and market expansion. Enron/TYCO-type management - stockholders look other way in vain anticipation of huge one time dividend.

Scientific Fraud = anomolous and destructive - to be exposed and rooted out with perpetrators punished.

Hmmm, the similarity boggles the mind.

By jimmiraybob (not verified) on 31 Mar 2007 #permalink

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By Banned by 28 A… (not verified) on 31 Mar 2007 #permalink

Not only that, but there are even strong signs that the original study Wells and Cordova are citing is completely overstated anyhow.

As John Hawks notes this hugely altered reconstruction... consists of changing the angle of the image and an extremely minor alteration in the face.

So that is what ass-hat means!

Oh. :-)

By David Marjanović (not verified) on 30 Mar 2007 #permalink