More Bell post-game analysis

Chris Mooney has his summary post up, in which he predictably and incorrectly declares victory for the forces of empty rhetoric, and Greg Laden correctly declares victory for the puppies and small children, which, of course, was our side.

No word from Matt Nisbet yet. He's probably having a late breakfast of roast puppy, served by his army of child-slaves. (←framing.)

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This deserves to become a new meta-rhetorical device! Just attach "←framing" to instances of over-the-top mudslinging. For example,

Those schmucks who run ScienceBlogs.com still haven't instituted decent math markup support. Clearly, they're getting paid off by the Wall Street Journal's op-ed writers, who want to keep America functionally innumerate so that they can continue to drive stretch-Hummer limousines to drug-fueled orgies where they snort lines of crack from the hipbones of nubile Young Republicans. (←framing.)

I resent the term 'cognitive miser'. Children today are merely 'cognitively penny-wise' and are carefully conserving their few moments of actual thought for important decisions in their old age.

Throw in a victory for kittens, and I'm aboard.

LOLFramer: I iz in ur Mooney, b-ing penny-wise.

Blake, "meta-rhetorical" would be rhetorics on rhetorics, wouldn't it? Like framing framers by LOLFramers.

By Torbjörn Larsson, OM (not verified) on 29 Sep 2007 #permalink

Where do I sign up for my own puppy-rôterie? And childslaves?

Heck, just point me in the direction of the puppy-kicking contest and I'm happy.

Bwa ha ha ha! Thanks for the great laugh after getting back from my long drive just now.
I'm working on my analysis of the event, photos, audio, etc. It was nice to meet each of the panelists for the first (or second) time, and too bad I didn't have the time to stay for the reception afterward! There will be more chances, we're all in this for the long haul.

I love the smell of atheists bashing each other in the morning!

By Manul Goldsenwhower (not verified) on 30 Sep 2007 #permalink

Throw in a victory for kittens, and I'm aboard.

LOLFramer: I iz in ur Mooney, b-ing penny-wise.

Blake, "meta-rhetorical" would be rhetorics on rhetorics, wouldn't it? Like framing framers by LOLFramers.

By Torbjörn Larsson, OM (not verified) on 29 Sep 2007 #permalink