Ski Lift Conversations

The man on the lift chair at Stephen's Pass asks me my occupation. Professor, I tell him, at the University of Washington.

Oh, he offers, My daughter is a fourth generation Husky. I was in the class of 1972. Or, well I would have been if I'd graduated, but I knew what I wanted to do didn't need a degree. If I'd wanted to work for IBM or Honeywell or something, then I guess it would matter.

Seattle, he continues scratching some snow from his mustache, used to be such a great city. But now, the traffic is crazy. My wife and I went on a trip and couldn't find a city more messed up than Seattle.

Interesting, I tell him, hoping that exactly my lack of interest might change the topic of conversation. So what do you do?

I'm retire now, but I used to be developer.

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By JohnQPublic (not verified) on 22 Feb 2008 #permalink

But now, the traffic is crazy. My wife and I went on a trip and couldn't find a city more messed up than Seattle.

Quite aside from the irony of a developer making this complaint, I doubt his traveling was all that extensive. Just considering cities I have visited in the last ten years, I'd say all of the following have worse traffic than Seattle: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington DC, Boston, London, Beijing, Munich. I'm sure there are many others, which I didn't list because I have not been there (or been lucky enough to avoid traffic problems there).

Disclaimer: I haven't been to the Eastside in a long time. Of course, this guy was probably one of the people responsible for making the Eastside what it is today.

By Eric Lund (not verified) on 22 Feb 2008 #permalink

How about Vancouver, BC?
Where did he travel - Boise?

By T. Bruce McNeely (not verified) on 22 Feb 2008 #permalink

Avoiding the Eastside is one of the great ways to love Seattle :)

He should have tried driving in New Delhi's traffic. He'd find cows, stray dogs, cycle rickshaws, autorickshaws, rickshaws that sold lemonade, bikers, two-wheelers of all kinds, crazy bus drivers, and all of this in hmmmm...120 F temperatures. Ahhh...I love the traffic in L.A. It is a joy and a pleasure to drive here. :)