Let's Make Them Fight Each Other

Oh no: do the Christian creationists know that by taking down Darwin they might inadvertently aid Eastern religions? Witness: the Bhaktivedanta Institute Newsletter. Personally I want a grunge match between the Discovery Institute and the Bhaktivedanta Institute to see who can out pseudoscience each other. "No my psychogenetic fallacy definitely trumps your silly fallacy of division!"

Among many gems in this newsletter, I particularly like their statement of purpose:

Modern science has generally been directed toward investigating the material world, excluding consideration of the conscious scientist who is essential to the whole process, since, of course, the nature of the scientific endeavor itself depends upon consciousness.

Anyone who thinks that science depends on consciousness hasn't witnessed sleep deprived graduate students in the lab :)

Oh, and as an added bonus, here is a video for those who want to see genetic arguments used toreason about Noah's ark.

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Any day I can learn the definitions of two logical fallacies is a good day.

As for "the scientific endeavor itself depends upon consciousness", I hope they realize that there are many robots doing repetitive lab work, and scores of supercomputers analyzing the data.

All we need now is a good genetic algorithm to help determine the most promising lines on scientific inquiry and, with the aforementioned sleep-deprived grad students, we could (hypothetically) remove consciousness from everything in science but the peer-review.

By Jason Failes (not verified) on 03 Apr 2008 #permalink

Why couldn't a panel of computers that were not involved in the original research do peer review?

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SCIENCE AND SCIENTIST
Inquiring into the Origin of Matter and Life
January-March 2008

Bhaktivedanata Institute's latest quarterly newsletter
is now available online.

You can download the January-March 2008 issue from:
http://scienceandscientist.org/current.php

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What's it about?

Modern science has generally been directed toward investigating
the material world, excluding consideration of the conscious
scientist who is essential to the whole process, since, of
course, the very existence of the scientific endeavor itself
depends upon consciousness. Complete scientific knowledge must
consequently include both objective science and subjective
consciousness.

In addition to other programs, Bhaktivedanta Institute's Science
and Scientist Newsletter is humbly offered to inspire scientists
and scholars to contribute their sincere efforts toward
developing this grand synthesis. The result will be valuable not
only for helping to better understand the "hard" problems of
science such as the nature and origin of life and the cosmos, the
mind-brain connection, artificial intelligence, etc. But the
pressing problems of ethics in science, world peace, and
interfaith dialog will also benefit from a more inclusive
scientific worldview.

In our modern era science and religion are the predominating
influences determining the fate of mankind. Promoting and
developing a culture of harmony between such diverse fields has
the potential to expand our conception of reality and advance
human knowledge in the new millennium, in which it is said the
study of life will be pre-eminent. Let us welcome the dawn of
that new epoch with great hope and determined endeavor.
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