Death of a salesman, part 2

Continuing an occasional series on non-notable folk. Marcel Leroux stirred up the septics quite a bit. By contrast, who cares about Tim Ball? He was declared [[WP:NN]] some time ago but then someone recreated his page. And so we have [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Ball]] (Tim, Timmy, Timothy, who cares about trivia?). Apart from the giggle-factor, there's nothing very interesting in this; contrasting the first and second AFD's is kinda fun; the level of give-a-toss is so much lower now.

Incidentally, its been pointed out to me, not for the first time, that all this stuff is just incomprehensible to anyone not soaked in the debate, not "in universe". In which case, as a token gesture, I point you at the glossary, Kevin.

[Update 2013/11: the return of the death of...]


* Hockey stick spotted in BT

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Without wallowing in the Wikipedia rules, I'd be tempted to leave him there until we hear results of both Weaver and Mann lawsuits against him. If he loses, I think that will be a first of this sort, and perhaps notable.

By John Mashey (not verified) on 18 Apr 2013 #permalink

Is there a reliable source of news/updates on the lawsuits? Other than Tim Ball, of course, who has been magically absent from Canadian media for the last while. (I could have my head in the sand, too...)

Here is an update from Roger McConchie, Michael Mann's lawyer:

I conducted an examination for discovery (deposition) of Tim Ball under oath before a Court Reporter in Victoria on Friday, March 1, 2013. I will continue that deposition of Ball in late May, 2013. Michael Mann is scheduled to be examined for discovery in Vancouver by Ball’s lawyer on May 22, 2013. I anticipate conducting discoveries of Ball’s co-defendant Frontier Centre for Public Policy in the near future. Christopher Monckton’s statement about the litigation has no basis in reality.…

I don't have an update on Ball's lawsuit with Andrew Weaver.

By Ian Forrester (not verified) on 18 Apr 2013 #permalink

Roger wrote the book on Canadian libel law. I own a copy and it's actually pretty readable and thorough (1000 pages). I had a 2-hour breakfast with him 2 years ago. I would not want to be in Ball's shoes.

By John Mashey (not verified) on 18 Apr 2013 #permalink

WP:NN non-notorious? Surely not

/me ducks

By Martin Vermeer (not verified) on 19 Apr 2013 #permalink