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Shorter Monckton:

I am angry. You can be too. Ask me how.

By Ezzthetic (not verified) on 30 Nov 2009 #permalink

In a discussion forum at an engineer's magazine, I actually saw someone link to Monckton as an authority.

More than that, he actually linked to Alex Jones' interview of Monckton as a presentation of "Climategate".

If you needed move evidence that denialists have credibility evaluation issues, there you have it.

By Harald Korneliussen (not verified) on 30 Nov 2009 #permalink

Monckton does appear to be a little eccentric, in an English sort of way.

This rumor of a 'world conspiracy' won't go away, even Nick Minchin gave it a mention. But I don't expect to see black choppers any time soon.

o/t Noticed that Watts picked up 2 million hits last month and by some strange coincidence the graph looks like a hockey stick.

el gordo:

> Monckton does appear to be a little eccentric, in an English sort of way.

Hmmm. If we define 'eccentric' as 'completely fucking unhinged'.

I suspect he lives in a partial fantasy world, where The Empire is at its zenith and he's allowed to shoot peasants for sport. And 'peasants' would include just about everyone without a title or who went to his school.

An amusing interview with the Lord: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/may/06/observerreview.climat…

David@4

I suspect he lives in a partial fantasy world

Yes, one where he is a member of the House of Lords...

Ouch my sides hurt.

I wish someone would bring Mockton on a tour to Australia. He'd clean up at the Melbourne comedy festival.

By Craig Allen (not verified) on 01 Dec 2009 #permalink

I got a question and a request for help. Scientific American has put up an article titled: Seven Answers to Climate Contrarian Nonsense. We got a deluge of Denialist and I got one who claims to be the author of a peer reviewed paper that reveal Mann and Briffa to be a hoax. I can not find any evidence that this paper is peer reviewed and have taken shots at some of the more glaring mistakes, but if those of you with more math chops could kindly come over and give a hand it would be much appreciated.

The Scientific American Article is here:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=seven-answers-to-clima…

The "paper" is here:
http://www.biocab.org/Insolation_Treerings_Growth.html

Thank you all in advance.

By Trent1492 (not verified) on 02 Dec 2009 #permalink

Trent:

LOL!! Click here and search for "Nasif" to see how his work explodes in his face. The fun begins around post #37.

Especially enlightening is how he claims that that his Biocab articles are peer reviewed when he provides no proof that they are, and that a former editor of Science magazine is some lousy liar. Besides, I think Janet is right -- Biocab looks like some lousy astroturf front.

By Former Skeptic (not verified) on 02 Dec 2009 #permalink

@ Former Skeptic,

Thanks for the link.

By Trent1492 (not verified) on 02 Dec 2009 #permalink

7 Trent,

Biocab/Nasif Nahle is Girma-class Dunning-Kruger.

He "publishes" his own "papers". I doubt that his "peers" extend beyond friends and family.

If you want, I can show you that he can't do simple arithmetic.

By TrueSceptic (not verified) on 02 Dec 2009 #permalink

This is most disconcerting. How can these pretend/junk science warmist sites even affect to understand peer review with such pathetic knowledge of the peerage in the first place?

Not giving Christopher Robin, the Discount Mountebank of Benchwarmer, his titles, or acknowledging his Platinum Nobel Peace Prize Brooch awarded for Medicine in Physics from the Norwegian School of Economics makes a mockery of the scientific process.

I can tell the sun, clouds and climate are all an Enigma you'll all never win the prize for solving.

By Marion Delgado (not verified) on 02 Dec 2009 #permalink

By the way, the alleged science that is all you can produce all has an Idso or Pielke number of greater than 20. That is to say, it's at least 20 papers away from a paper by an Idso or Pielke. Worse, the best of them has an Idso/Pielke number greater than 400.

By Marion Delgado (not verified) on 02 Dec 2009 #permalink

@True Sceptic,

If you want, I can show you that he can't do simple arithmetic.

Please do. He is now throwing math equations everywhere in an attempt to obfuscate, his incompetence.

By Trent1492 (not verified) on 03 Dec 2009 #permalink

12 Marion,

I'm intrigued. Please tell us more about this matrix.

By TrueSceptic (not verified) on 03 Dec 2009 #permalink

@True Skeptic,

Thank you, True Skeptic. Those links you provided are a gold mine of entertainment.

By Trent1492 (not verified) on 03 Dec 2009 #permalink

16 Trent,

Glad you liked it/them.

A denydiot might argue that we were too stupid to understand biocab's "proof" but how would they explain his constant evasion and the fact that he couldn't even keep his own story straight? Of course they are oblivious to all that.

BTW I can recommend the JREF for all sorts of discussions, if you can tolerate liars and wackos being given far too much leeway (IMO).

By TrueSceptic (not verified) on 03 Dec 2009 #permalink

TS.

I had no idea that Nasif/Biocab was so loopy - and so arithmetically inconpetent!

How is it that folk such as he and Girma Orssengo manage to convince tertiary institutions to let them darken the doors, let alone to confer degrees upon them?

I remember decades ago when I first entered my bachelor's degree, the student's handbook had a small paragraph, buried somewhere in the hundreds of pages, that said that the criminal prosecution of a graduate might provide grounds for the revoking of a degree, where the crime directly involved a discreditting of the University.

I don't think that such clauses are used these days, but I reckon that it should still hold - if you bring academic discredit, embarrassment or other damage to the reputation of your awarding institution, in any way that relates to their having conferred a degree upon you, that same institution should have the option to revoke the degree.

By Bernard J. (not verified) on 03 Dec 2009 #permalink

19 Bernard,

I don't know if he still does so, but he used to post his ideas at CA. Even there, he was just humoured and told to stay on-topic!

By TrueSceptic (not verified) on 04 Dec 2009 #permalink

19 Bernard,

I missed something important there.

There is no bottom to stupid, or bottom to dishonesty, when it comes to Denydiots.

There are resident AGWSceptics at JREF, 'mhaze' being the most persistent, who *never* find fault in any denialist claims, no matter how obviously stupid or dishonest. You can see a perfect example of that if you follow that very tedious thread.

More generally, you can see the very same behaviour with, say, Climate Fraudit. When has McIntyre ever questioned obvious idiocy or dishonesty from the "sceptics"?

EVER?

By TrueSceptic (not verified) on 04 Dec 2009 #permalink