StopTheACLU on Specter's "Compromise"

I'm sure you've all watched the little tempest in a teapot the last few days between Arlen Specter and Dick Cheney over the NSA's wiretapping and information gathering programs. For a few minutes, it actually looked as though Specter was going to try and support the constitutional notion of checks and balances and attempt some congressional oversight on the NSA programs. He was negotiating with Dick Cheney - okay, negotiating may be the wrong word....being told what was going to happen by Dick Cheney is more accurate - over what the administration would accept. The bottom line was that the administration isn't going to accept any actual oversight, only mythical oversight.

Specter initially demanded that the administration submit to the oversight of the FISA court, the court specifically set up to provide a check on the constitutionality of executive branch actions regarding intelligence gathering. He issued an angry-sounding letter about Dick Cheney's unwillingness to submit to such oversight, then quickly changed his tune. He's now offering a "compromise" plan:

The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee has proposed legislation that would give President Bush the option of seeking a warrant from a special court for an electronic surveillance program such as the one being conducted by the National Security Agency....

The new proposal specifies that it cannot "be construed to limit the constitutional authority of the President to gather foreign intelligence information or monitor the activities and communications of any person reasonably believed to be associated with a foreign enemy of the United States."..

Another part of the Specter bill would grant blanket amnesty to anyone who authorized warrantless surveillance under presidential authority, a provision that seems to ensure that no one would be held criminally liable if the current program is found illegal under present law.

So let's see...his "compromise" is to give the administration the option of going to the FISA court for permission - the same court the administration has heretofore refused to ask for permission. Where did Specter learn to negotiate, from Isiah Thomas? Oh, and a grant of total immunity just in case some court does have the guts to hear a case on the issue decides to actual do their job. Brilliant. The only good thing that might come out of this compromise is this:

A third provision would consolidate the 29 cases that have been filed in various federal district courts challenging the legality of the NSA program and give jurisdiction over them to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, which was established by FISA. Any decision of that court would be subject to Supreme Court review and otherwise would be binding on all other courts.

That would be a good idea. It would allow such trials to take place, but keep the details secret so they can't claim the state secrets privilege. That's actually a reasonable compromise. But would the administration do it? I doubt it. Remember, Bush has to sign the law once it passes and I'd be willing to bet he would use his veto for the first time. Why? Because he has nothing to lose by it. The courts have so far rolled over and played dead at their mention of state secrets.

All of this has the halfwits at StopTheACLU up in arms. Why? Because the ACLU is critical of this "compromise" - i.e. this blatant cave in by Specter. They don't actually offer any analysis of why the ACLU is wrong. Apparently, they believe that just mentioning the ACLU's position is enough because their positions are automatically wrong. They say:

Of course, the ACLU are not happy. They are calling it a blank check given to the president. Since it makes sense to most Americans, and it goes along with the best interest of national security, the ACLU don't care for it. They were the ones calling for the Senate to review things, now they don't like what the result was. What a bunch of whiners.

Gee, maybe that's because Specter's "compromise" isn't a review at all, it gives the administration the option of choosing to change their policy. Well, duh. They could submit to FISA court review any time they want; they don't want to. Offering them the option to do what they already have the option to do isn't a compromise, it's an empty gesture that accomplishes nothing. And it is a blank check for the president. Not only a blank check, but total immunity for whatever they decide to do with that blank check.

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I'm not certain there are any human beings behind Stop the ACLU except whoever originally registered the domain. The entire site appears to operate via a script that crawls Google News looking for references to the ACLU, then spits out a blog entry that re-posts most of the article in question at the top and a series of caustic comments about liberals, whiners, commies, atheists, and activist judges. They should a least work a spell-checker and an irony stripper into the scheme.

Isn't ACLU a collective noun? The constant use of " The ACLU are" & "The ACLU have" drives me up a tree.

By Bill from Dover (not verified) on 11 Jun 2006 #permalink

How is this even a left/right thing? I thought we were all pretty much in agreement that checks and balances is a good thing and that absolute power a bad one.

"How is this even a left/right thing? I thought we were all pretty much in agreement that checks and balances is a good thing and that absolute power a bad one."

The position at Gonna Stoppem regarding this issue is clearly that anyone questioning any aspect of the NSA surveillance program is a terrorist sympathizer, period. Since they already believe the ACLU is out to destroy America from within, the next "logical" conclusion is that the ACLU is tops among U.S.-based covert supporters of Al-Queda.

As hoarse as the Gonna Stoppems scream themselves about rights, evidently rights only apply to gun laws and pro-God activities; the Stoppems don't consider the fact that some people might genuinely have a desire to see the White House follow the proper legal channels in its investigation. Their version of "Q.E.D." seems to be the blanket statement that we're at war and that Bush can therefore do whatever the hell he wants, then posting a picture of the WTC towers blowing up.

Isn't ACLU a collective noun? The constant use of "The ACLU are" & "The ACLU have" drives me up a tree.

I knew I wasn't the only one bothered by that!
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Everyone at Stop the ACLU lacks a basic understanding of what they're denouncing, so it's rather pointless to argue with them most of the time. Hell, that Gribbit guy won't even let you disagree with him unless you jump through hoops and follow his silly procedures. They have the stubbornness and thickheadedness of Bill O'Reilly. Still, I feel it's our duty to tell them they're wrong in hopes that maybe, just maybe, one of them will come around.

In what sense is the Specter proposal a compromise? Sounds like there was a line drawn in the sand, and the bully crossed it, while kicking sand in the face of the 98-pound weakling. The weakling's response is to draw a new line in the sand, say that the new line is optional, whereas the old line was mandatory.

I suppose the compromise is that, while the bully gets to steal the weakling's girlfriend, the weakling does get to keep his PB&J.

As for "the ACLU are" - that's the kind of usage that is commonplace in the UK. I guess we can infer a British author?