The undead undead-- Virus myths that REALLY wont die: SV40


For the lulz:

60 Lab Studies Now Confirm Cancer Link to a Vaccine You Probably Had as a Child
Posted By Dr. Mercola | February 18 2011 | 104,627 views

SV40, a cancer-causing monkey virus. The puzzle began in 1994, when Dr. Michele Carbone, a Loyola University researcher, found the virus SV40, which had never before been detected in humans, in half of the human lung tumors he was studying. Since then, 60 different lab studies have confirmed the results, and SV40 has been found in a variety of human cancers, including lung-, brain-, bone-, and lymphatic cancer.

At first no one could fathom how the virus had been transmitted into the human population.

But in the censored interview with Dr. Maurice Hilleman above, Hilleman admits Merck's responsibility in unleashing this virus via their polio vaccine, as well as the likelihood that there was an importing and spreading the AIDS virus in the same manner.

Mercola links to someone elses YouTube account with Lenny Horowitzs bat-shit-crazy video!

Lenny is, apparently, now going by the title of "SIR LEONARD GEORGE HOROWITZ", which I stress, is really, really not bat-shit-crazy.



Jesus Christ!

But I got an idea for a contest! Who can make it farthest down the comments (111 as of posting) gets some kind of fun title on ERV (like PZs 'OM'). I only made it through 3 comments before I started contemplating the best way to end the human race. :(

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Does one actually have to read the comments? Or can one scroll to the end?

By NoAstronomer (not verified) on 18 Feb 2011 #permalink

I read to the end. Instead of a prize, I think I need a hug. *shudder*

My favorite so far:

"The psychopathic, eugenicist, ruling-élite recognised vaccines as weapons of population-reduction and weakening (to reduce threats to their hegemony) in the mid-Victorian era.[snip] "

With this follow up comment:

"Excellent points made...I read somewhere that PLANNED PARENTHOOD is a cabal/elitist group that supports EUGENICS."

And this:

"We are living through a massive power schism. The Globalists, the Black Nobility, their puppets (Presidents and Prime Ministers) are tightening the screws on all of us. Pockets of resistance are strengthining though, Dr. Mercola a case in point. "

Never underestimate the power of procrastination when there's benchwork to be done. 123 posts of credulous garbage, yay! The worst part is the posters saying 'omf I didn't knooooow and now my kid is going to diiiiiie'. Mercola deserves a special place in antivaxxer hell for making parents that did the best thing for their child feel like crap.

Let's make a new law. When someone starts a panic by spreading discredited garbage like this, it counts as "volunteering" to donate a kidney.
This will make the nutters think twice, and it will actually save lives.

By Birger Johansson (not verified) on 18 Feb 2011 #permalink

I totally love the guy who keeps telling everyone to cleanse their cells, get out in the sunshine, drink some juice, and they will be just fine. Wack job.

We're up to 126 now. I just logged in and went and voted thumbs-down for 99% of them. I'll see how long it takes Mercola to throw me off

By ex-hedgehog freak (not verified) on 18 Feb 2011 #permalink

I only made it through 3 comments before I started contemplating the best way to end the human race.

Good thing you're a viral researcher. That will make it easy. Small Pox + Ebola = extinction level event. The only real question is finding the strain with the greatest hybrid vigor.

Not to make any suggestions about the doom of the human race, but wouldn't Small Pox+ Ebola be a virus that is too terribly maladapted to humans (kill too fast) to really cause an extinction level event? I was thinking about something more along the lines of hivpox.

But then, in Hollywood movies, usually when there's an outbreak, there is exactly one woman scientist in the world and one hero helping her to work on the cure. This lowers the chances of success quite a bit, and I always wonder whether the rest of the world hasn't long started developing cures in a number of large labs, while the lone Hollywood heroes simply ignore that for dramatic purposes.

You do know that the comments on that video is a good emetic?
And I thought the people on my favorite cook site were nuts with their conspiracy theories.
Oh geez I went to the wrong video to get through the comments. This one has 354 listed not 111. I need a drink.

I can live with the people confusing anecdotes with full evidence seeing the rest. Knight Templar conspiracies, antisemitism, vaccines == autism, devil is a nice guy compared to our governments and corporations, polio is a created virus, orogone FREAKING orogone, media cover-ups due to advertiser pressure, medical industry doesn't want cures since they cost money, lying to doctors to get out from under flu shots, epidemics occur AFTER vaccines to counter them, cancer caused by a delayed SV40 reaction, Fort Detrick is ground zero for man made virusses (that is anything we found the last 60 or so years), CFL bulbs emit mercury, more no vaccinations, more vaccines cause autism and people who claim otherwise are monsters, vaccines are used to sterilize portions of the population, more mercury panic, oh a new one vaccines are not vaccines but injections with the live viruses, more vaccines don't help polio is going on it's own, cure for aids/cancer, lots of money used for an official cure for aids but none found only people dying to the drugs to keep it under control, quote mining about aids, Hmm change of pace a few people actually telling the rest they are idiots for accepting the video at face value (or what others are writing), hawking of natural cures & colloidal silver, vaccines are bad because they killed more people then the diseases they inoculate against, still more posts trying to combat the person hawking colloidal silver, people trying to combat the MMR<->autism link, big pharma shill, more SV40 in polio vaccine, cancer is a virus, more evidence to counter Wakefield, shifting gears from mercury to anything else that might be in a vaccine (aluminum ,formaldehyde and phenol), squalene causes gulfwar syndrome, exposing lie about only 2 vaccines ever checked on autism link.

By Who Cares (not verified) on 19 Feb 2011 #permalink

I only made it through 3 comments before I started contemplating the best way to end the human race. :(

ERV channeling Eric Pianka, aka, Dr. Doom.

Where's minimalist? LOL.

By William Wallace (not verified) on 19 Feb 2011 #permalink

More substantively, I don't think your post is going to have the effect you hope.

From the video:

They weren't being infected in these group holding things with all the other 40 different viruses....if you have a gang housing, you're going to have an epidemic transmission in a confined space.

In the context of epidemics, vaccines, and confined housing, is this why many states, based on the "Model State Emergency Health Powers Act," are using the threat of forced group housing in stadiums and the like, depending on the number of refusals, for those citizens who refuse to get a vaccine? You're free not to get vaccinated, but we're going to house you in a large stadium with thousands of other citizens who also refused to get vaccinated, for your own protection, of course.

By the way, this isn't crazy talk. Dr. Harry Hull, former Minnesota state epidemiologist, explained on Minnesota Public Radio this is exactly what would happen when Minnesota passed its version of the Model State Emergency Health powers act. (Incidentally, Dr. Harry Hull later left the state in disgrace, after female employees accused Dr. Hull of creating a hostile work environment).

So, to protect the sheep who do get vaccinated (who wouldn't need protection if the vaccines worked), the state is going to use the threat of warehousing unvaccinated people together, where, if only one of the unvaccinated is infected, it will be much more likely that those confined with him will also be infected. A death sentence for refusing an invasive procedure, for refusing to trust the medical experts who brought us wild monkey kidneys to grow vaccines, who brought us Fen-phen, who brought us Thalidomide, who are unable to control the spread of Flesh eating bacteria in hospitals, etc., etc.

I can understand why you're so frustrated that you're fantasizing about ending the human race. They have functioning brains, and your arguments are unpersuasive.

By William Wallace (not verified) on 19 Feb 2011 #permalink

Buy more tinfoil, Willy.

By Stephen Wells (not verified) on 19 Feb 2011 #permalink

Damn. I got to the 4th or 5th comment and had to go shower. So....dirty... *Rocks in a corner*

By Poodle Stomper (not verified) on 19 Feb 2011 #permalink

You need aluminum foil, and it needs to be ground to work.

By William Wallace (not verified) on 19 Feb 2011 #permalink

Well I did the bulk of the comments back when there were 174 of them (and I was drunk as aresholes). I just went back and theyâre now up to 191.

The following has to be my favourite;

The pressure to vaccinate for ever increasing numbers of false flag diseases has just one aim in mind and that is to cull the masses from a population of 6 billion to 500 million. All other methods, such as food denaturation, refinement, GMO, processing, chemicalisation, sterilisation, abortion, contraception, fluoridation, false flag pandemics and bioterrorism with AIDS, Sars,and others, haven't worked as well as hoped.

See, the NWO, who control the food supply and all medicine, actively works to cull humanity but is so bad at it that weâll soon be up to seven billion people on this planet.

Now originally at least one commentator had brains enough to realize that this idea is bollocks (apparently even some paranoid loons have standards) but the comment had a negative rating the first time around and now itâs gone completely.

Does anyone know if they moderate out comments manually, or is their board set up to automatically censor opinions that the ingroup mark as deviant?

Either way, wow.

I forgot to mention; one of the woo-ier members is actually recommending that they go drink bleach.

So itâs not as though there are no good ideas lurking amongst all that dumb.

I never made it to the comments. This statement stopped me cold.

"Now, for those of you who may think Dr. Hilleman was just another crackpot (he passed away in 2005), think again. He was, and still is, the leading vaccine pioneer in the history of vaccines"

If he's dead how can he still be the leading pioneer?

Why do so may people use the word 'research', when what they really mean is 'I read all the things that the people I agree with wrote'?

I attempted to have a discussion about vaccines with one of my friends on facebook. She has always been 'out-there', but what happened ended up with me removing her from my list.

I attempted to have a discussion about why all of her links are from people who seemingly can not tell the difference between mercury, ethyl mercury, and methyl mercury. And since mercury=toxic, it is a word that will galvanize their thought process. I spent the good part of an hour trying to explain that the elemental properties of mercury, are different than the molecular properties of a compound that contains mercury. In the same way that 'Chlorine' is not the same as table salt, even though Cl is in the molecule NaCl. I asked if they were 'poisoning' themselves with chlorine from eating table salt, and was met with the thought process of a child.

It became clear very quickly that this person didn't even have a basic understanding of chemistry, much less the scientific process. My, discussion was met with 'anecdotes' of why vaccines are bad. And snide remarks about how I was 'going over the edge' and then postings of pictures of dogs in costumes about how I was wrong.(I'm not kidding).

When it is brought up that whooping cough is coming back, they say 'thats just an isolated area, and isnt representative.' But their 'anecdotes' are acceptable to use? The lack of logic is STUNNING.

I'm a little late on my TDaP booster shot, but after realizing how many of the anti-vaxers are in my area, I decided to rush out and get up to date.

By ItPutsTheLotio… (not verified) on 20 Feb 2011 #permalink

It is possible that there is a SV40 cancer connection, but merely a muted one. It is hard to explain why SV40 is found in human carcinomas. Check out the more recent research instead of the decades old stuff:

"SV40 was not present in control subjects, either normal tissue or in biopsies from adenomas or polyps. All blood samples were negative. Conversely, six adenocarcinoma specimens were positive for SV40 sequences (overall prevalence 6.4%, P = 0.03 in comparison with controls)"

It makes no sense to dismiss all SV40 inquiries merely because an obvious cancer connection does not hit you over the head with a 2x4. Unless you don't care about the science and have a particular axe to grind.

Damn. You owe me a new brain......that comment section is an echo chamber for morons.....I especially like the rating system on the RH side that lets you know how "helpful" a particular commenter is......

you-tube comment threads are upside down. It gets worse and worse.

William Wallace:
s this why many states, based on the "Model State Emergency Health Powers Act," are using the threat of forced group housing in stadiums and the like, depending on the number of refusals, for those citizens who refuse to get a vaccine?
It's not clear that you understand anything regarding the safety and efficacy of vaccines, so a policy discussion with you would be getting the cart ahead of the horse.

Why do you pester scientists with your tangential scary bad talk, Mr. Wallace? Do you not realize that scientists made this Internet that you like to use?