I believe it is so....

What people believe, what they say they believe and what they do may be wholly unrelated, but are never perfectly correlated. The only reason I note this is that I meet so many intelligent people who seem to assume a deep correlation between these distinct vectors.

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Problem is, the less connection there is, the more powerless everyone else is left feeling. Rational discussion can generally only touch the beliefs that a person claims to hold - if there's no connection between these and the beliefs they actually hold then anyone attempting to debate rationally with them is basically screwed. The only way you can actually get through to someone like this is with violence.

Hence, people who prefer rational debate to violence prefer to ignore this fundamental disconnect. I can very much sympathise.

The only way you can actually get through to someone like this is with violence.

no, there are ways you can twist the argument when you know what they really believe. the key is to convince them that you agree with them. more later.

no, there are ways you can twist the argument when you know what they really believe. the key is to convince them that you agree with them. more later.

Ooh, I'm on tenterhooks now :)